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FM2020 & FM2021 - Defender Upfront Challenge


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After being inspired by the Phil Jones up front for PSG reddit thread and @russell9's Liverpool GK experiment I have decided to start a challenge on here to see who can get a rubbish defender and see who can get the highest goalscoring season and also the overall highest goal tally for their club.

If anyone has any suggestions of who would be the worst defender to try this challenge I would appreciate the suggestions.

Would be a nice way to end FM2020 before FM2021 comes out.

Please no moaning about the Match Engine as this is not what this thread is about. Its just about having fun.

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1 hour ago, Wavelberry said:

Brighton and Dunk?

Another good suggestion. If I was to do it with Brighton I would have to pick David Burn up front as he is 6ft 7. He could be my new Peter Crouch. Or I could put Tariq Lamptey up front as an Advanced Forward or Poacher.

I have decided to do a save with Burnley and play Ben Mee up front as a Target Man(Attacking).

Only got through friendlies so far and Ben Mee aint scored yet so we will see. I have got him taking penalties and free kicks and training him to be a Targetman.

I will post a month by month update.

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Burnley & Ben Mee Progress - August

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A decent start the season with a 0-0 draw with Man City.

I have got 2 wins in August so far with a 3-2 win over Brighton and 5-1 win over Southampton.

Ben Mee started slow with him not scoring a goal in all the friendlies or the first 5 games of the season but then we played Southampton and he banged 2 goals in and 1 assist. He scored from 15 yards with a decent shot and then got a tap in for his 2nd. He also contributed an assist from a free kick.

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Wow you beat arsenal 2-1.. anything can happen in the premiership lol

well played

 

18 hours ago, Ronaldo Beckham said:

Ben Mee was injured for 3-4 weeks so he didn't play in September but come back with a bang in October.

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He was a massive factor is beating Sheff Utd 4-3 and beating Arsenal 2-1. 

1 goal and 2 assists in the 4-3 win over Sheff Utd

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1 goal in the win over Arsenal

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November & December Results 

A shocking 2 months for Burnley with no wins in 2 months. 5 losses and 4 draws. 

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Ben Mee has now got 6 goals & 3 assists in 19 games played. He even got Man Of The Match twice.

Only 1 of his goals come from a penalty.

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Not as good as @russell9's attempt with his goalies at Liverpool and Barcelona but I am really enjoying the save.

Here are some of my main transfers in and out. I want to try build as best of a team as possible to help Ben Mee. 

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I will post my next update later.

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1 hour ago, rosque said:

How many of his goals came from open play?

Well he now has 9 goals. 3 penalties. I don't remember him scoring from a direct free kick and I think only goal scored with his head which I was surprised at cos I assumed most of his goals would be from penalties or headers.

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Here is the saved game file if you want to download it and test it etc.

https://mega.nz/file/NMRCxZYC#UNHOrFHe5ZpXjP5xEJEoIOGh8LbEuU1G1ySy1jivBs8

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So the season ended and I finished 17th with Burnley and just about staying up.

Ben Mee was topscorer for Burnley with 12 goals (5 were penalties). He also got 6 assists and 4 Man Of The Match awards.

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He also got the Fans Player Of The Season award.

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So the experiment ended. I played a few tactics but the best one was a 4-4-2 Wing Play formation.

I think fans of FM can relax about the Match Engine cos if it was that messed up then Ben Mee would be banging them in. I do think it is the tactic @russell9 was using and also the players he had in the Liverpool team and not an ME issue.

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3 hours ago, HCFC87 said:

It's a shame Ben Mee was out injured for a while, but great to see you can survive in the PL playing him up top!

Cheers mate. I might try David Burn at Brighton as he is 6ft 7 or something like that. I just need to find a tactic that relys on pinging the ball into the box for the big man to header goals in.

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I am going to give this another go. This time with Aston Villa and I am going to play Tyron Mings up front.

Here is a few tactics I have downloaded that utilizes the targetman which is the role Mings will have.

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Aston Villa are my 2nd favorite team and I hope this goes well. Mings will be taking free kicks and penalties as well.

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1 hour ago, rosque said:

Well, since he only scored 5 non-penalties goals can you please check how many were from live action?

No as I have already said its 80-90% of the goals. I don't think he has scored from a free kick or header in from a corner etc which is annoying cos I downloaded this tactic to do that.

I haven't got time to answer your requests but in the mean time feel free to download my save and look into yourself if you are that bothered to do so.

https://mega.nz/file/NFpWmCAQ#lDXa6L-0qrFxFPShJog86djAwIGE5cIQHJ_3l_rzsLc

 

 

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55 minutes ago, lee82gx said:

If this and the rest of the experiments (GKs in Liverpool and Phil Jones (God bless her mother) in PSG doesn't prove something is wrong then we are all just living in the matrix.

I don't think mine is that bad as Mings has only got 7 goals so far and Ben Mee only got 12 goals.

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A bit of a disappointing month with 3 losses in the league. I did manage to beat Bournemouth 3-2 in the League Cup so I am getting close to bringing Villa to Wembley.

Mings had another rubbish month with only 1 goal scored which was a rebound in case a certain person wants to know.

He also got injured and is out for 2-3 weeks.

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Aston Villa Winter Update

I had an ok Decemember picking up 4 wins, losing 4 and drawing one and then January come along and I won all 4 fixtures in that month.

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Tyron Mings has not only started scoring but he is becoming a match winner for me.

He now has 14 goals in 26 games played. Before anyone asks how did he score I don't know as I changed it from key highlights to commentary only as I just want to get the season done. And no I wont go back and check before some certain person asks.

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Mings also won the Prem Player Of The Month for February as well. 

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Aston Villa End Of Season Review

I managed to end the season as 6th in the league and also won the FA Cup by beating Man Utd 1-0 in the final.

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Tyron Mings banged the goals in for me in the 2nd half of the season and ended up with 23 goals in 40 games. He also got 2 assists and 6 Man Of The Match awards. 12 of his goals were from the Penalty spot. 

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Tyron Mings was 2nd only behind Sergio Aguero for the leagues top goalscorer award.

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Interesting stuff. I can see that you now have Mings as accomplished in the striker role as well. TBH I am not that surprised he is doing so much better, because he has the attributes for it - good composure, technique & decisions is probably a big help. Plus you have him surrounded by quality players like Grealish, Traore and Barkley. 

He scored 10 for my Villa team from CB lol so not surprised to see him double that tally playing as your striker. Are you going to continue the save?

EDIT - you can also see the impact of the new role training on his attributes which have all taken a knock, as I assume his CA has remained around the same.

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3 hours ago, karanhsingh said:

Interesting stuff. I can see that you now have Mings as accomplished in the striker role as well. TBH I am not that surprised he is doing so much better, because he has the attributes for it - good composure, technique & decisions is probably a big help. Plus you have him surrounded by quality players like Grealish, Traore and Barkley. 

He scored 10 for my Villa team from CB lol so not surprised to see him double that tally playing as your striker. Are you going to continue the save?

EDIT - you can also see the impact of the new role training on his attributes which have all taken a knock, as I assume his CA has remained around the same.

Yeah I will be doing another season or 2 before FM2021 comes out. 

Yeah Mings has surprised me but I knew he would do better then Ben Mee cos as you said Mings has the right attributes.

I am training him up as a Targetman but apparently Defensive Forward is his best role. I think his CA and PA are the same but I am not at home to check but will check later.

Thanks for the feedback buddy.

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36 minutes ago, Ronaldo Beckham said:

Yeah I will be doing another season or 2 before FM2021 comes out. 

Yeah Mings has surprised me but I knew he would do better then Ben Mee cos as you said Mings has the right attributes.

I am training him up as a Targetman but apparently Defensive Forward is his best role. I think his CA and PA are the same but I am not at home to check but will check later.

Thanks for the feedback buddy.

Yes it must be the same but his extra position would be taking up some "CA points" hence many of the other attributes have gone down. Which is an unfortunate by-product of new position training.

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1 minute ago, karanhsingh said:

Yes it must be the same but his extra position would be taking up some "CA points" hence many of the other attributes have gone down. Which is an unfortunate by-product of new position training.

Yeah I have tried speaking to him about trying harder in training but nothing is changing.

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@karanhsingh I decided against doing another season with Villa as I found it too easy. I did play a few Prem games but Mings wasn't scoring so I have decided to start a new save with Fulham and this time I decided to search for a central defender who was over 6ft 2 and has some decent attributes for a Targetman and I originally went for Brentford defender Pontius Jansson but he didn't want to come to me. He would of been perfect but I found another good candidate in Jack O'Connell from Sheff Utd so I signed him to play the Targetman this year.

Only played a few friendlies but I will keep everyone posted.

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