toffee71 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Think I can make it through the weekend. Valhalla 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toffee71 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) Please delete. Mods please remove. Edited November 7, 2020 by toffee71 delete duplicate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, toffee71 said: Think I can make it through the weekend. Valhalla First raid...SI Towers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Häynted Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) Why's the mindset of "beta" what it currently is? Each year it seems that a huge amount of time is spent on polishing the so called "beta release" and the sentence It's ready when it's ready gets repeated over and over. And then the "retail release" with a fixed date eventually arrives with most of the crowd already busy in their save games. If the real retail is ready when it's ready then how come the "retail date" has never been changed (case Cyberpunk). What I would like to see is something similar to what Larian Studios did with Baldur's Gate 3. If you call it "early access" or "Beta", then make it such. Considering all the polishing, currently the whole beta seems out to be an excuse if something is still missed during final tests "it's not the retail yet, but beta". Of course I understand the concept of creating hype, but why wouldn't the hype effect be exactly the same with a real beta / early access. If I stated to my wife that I'm cleaning up the house each month but she'll get "an early access" to pin-point my faults, with me replying "it's not a finished product" once I've actually stopped vacuuming. How long you think she'll buy it and stay? Work in progress is work in progress, but calling a MVP product work in progress is just silly mind games. Edited November 6, 2020 by Häynted Added some text for comparison 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavelberry Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Saturday 3pm. When else would you release it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 I'm feeling positive. Mainly because of this (And yes, I know it won't last). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SazoJohnno Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, kevhamster said: I'm feeling positive. Mainly because of this (And yes, I know it won't last). Thanks for VVD 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 18 minutes ago, SazoJohnno said: Thanks for VVD Thanks for Danny Ings 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Anyone know what Miles was replying to?? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeonflux Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, kevhamster said: Anyone know what Miles was replying to?? Dom and Tom’s p45 after their terrible performance without Miles yesterday on the stream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SazoJohnno Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Most likely is about FCFM the prize sent out to the winner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patpul Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) I've started 27th time first season Segunda B in Spain. Still try to avoid relegation with Prat. I have to spend weekend there :'( Edited November 7, 2020 by patpul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmattb28 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 6 hours ago, patpul said: I've started 27th time first season Segunda B in Spain. Still try to avoid relegation with Prat. I have to spend weekend there :'( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrarinseb Posted November 7, 2020 Author Share Posted November 7, 2020 Is it confirmed they wont launch beta today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitcub Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, ferrarinseb said: Is it confirmed they wont launch beta today? No - but then there's no reason to expect it to be here today either. They've made it absolutely as clear as they can - there's no timescale, there's no planned release date or time when it comes to the BETA other than as a rough guide approx two weeks before the full launch, it'll be ready (presentable) when it's ready. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmattb28 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 One last time 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrarinseb Posted November 7, 2020 Author Share Posted November 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, kitcub said: No - but then there's no reason to expect it to be here today either. They've made it absolutely as clear as they can - there's no timescale, there's no planned release date or time when it comes to the BETA other than as a rough guide approx two weeks before the full launch, it'll be ready (presentable) when it's ready. Well all we can do is wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 They said they don't release betas on weekends in the stream or on Twitter, can't remeber which. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
collisonmullan Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Viking said: They said they don't release betas on weekends in the stream or on Twitter, can't remeber which. Edited November 7, 2020 by collisonmullan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 10 hours ago, Häynted said: Why's the mindset of "beta" what it currently is? Each year it seems that a huge amount of time is spent on polishing the so called "beta release" and the sentence It's ready when it's ready gets repeated over and over. And then the "retail release" with a fixed date eventually arrives with most of the crowd already busy in their save games. If the real retail is ready when it's ready then how come the "retail date" has never been changed (case Cyberpunk). What I would like to see is something similar to what Larian Studios did with Baldur's Gate 3. If you call it "early access" or "Beta", then make it such. Considering all the polishing, currently the whole beta seems out to be an excuse if something is still missed during final tests "it's not the retail yet, but beta". Of course I understand the concept of creating hype, but why wouldn't the hype effect be exactly the same with a real beta / early access. If I stated to my wife that I'm cleaning up the house each month but she'll get "an early access" to pin-point my faults, with me replying "it's not a finished product" once I've actually stopped vacuuming. How long you think she'll buy it and stay? Work in progress is work in progress, but calling a MVP product work in progress is just silly mind games. Long story short, beta is the release with all the bugs they know about fixed (within reason), retail is the release with as many of the bugs that are found in beta fixed as possible. By the way you’ve used it in your analogy, I’m not convinced you’ve ever cleaned a house... vacuuming? Fake news Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novem9 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 14 минут назад, collisonmullan сказал: I'm sure he's just bluffing 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novem9 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 10 часов назад, kevhamster сказал: I'm feeling positive. Mainly because of this (And yes, I know it won't last). Did you see this? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lempicka Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 23 minutes ago, Novem9 said: Did you see this? Tweeting at its finest! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babis71988 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 I would be surprised if Miles doesn't prepare a surprise for us...... I understand that weekend is time for relaxing before the "fight with bugs". BUT...............i hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novem9 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 13 минут назад, Babis71988 сказал: I would be surprised if Miles doesn't prepare a surprise for us...... canceling of Beta is could be a HUGE surprise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staf9 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 we start again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibsweden Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Lempicka said: Stop the duke as well? 1 hour ago, Novem9 said: Did you see this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DementedHammer Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Novem9 said: Did you see this? That's the funniest thing I've seen all week by a very large margin. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lempicka Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Well, according to Genesis 1-2, on day 6 (Saturday) - God created all the creatures that live on dry land. I'm sure a Saturday release of Beta will be a piece of cake in comparison. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braincomplexa Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DementedHammer Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Lempicka said: Well, according to Genesis 1-2, on day 6 (Saturday) - God created all the creatures that live on dry land. I'm sure a Saturday release of Beta will be a piece of cake in comparison. My software company also has a policy of no releases on Friday or the weekend. The logic is simple: if something major goes wrong on a weekend, nobody will be around to fix it or there will only be a skeleton staff available. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, DementedHammer said: My software company also has a policy of no releases on Friday or the weekend. The logic is simple: if something major goes wrong on a weekend, nobody will be around to fix it or there will only be a skeleton staff available. Yep. And FM betas have always fallen into a Tuesday to Thursday window too. I think. There might have been one on a Friday, but I don’t think so. Getting old though so memory is failing. Did I mention FM betas have always fallen into a Tuesday to Thursday window? There might have been one on a Friday, but I don’t think so. Getting old though so memory is failing. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babis71988 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, DementedHammer said: My software company also has a policy of no releases on Friday or the weekend. The logic is simple: if something major goes wrong on a weekend, nobody will be around to fix it or there will only be a skeleton staff available. 100% logical.......but let's "keep hoping" It's free...........hahahahaha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lempicka Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, DementedHammer said: My software company also has a policy of no releases on Friday or the weekend. The logic is simple: if something major goes wrong on a weekend, nobody will be around to fix it or there will only be a skeleton staff available. I know, it's never going to happen. I'm just keeping the dream alive by posting on here until the working week begins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braincomplexa Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, DementedHammer said: My software company also has a policy of no releases on Friday or the weekend. The logic is simple: if something major goes wrong on a weekend, nobody will be around to fix it or there will only be a skeleton staff available. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lempicka Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 32 members currently browsing. Well done all - showing great commitment to the cause 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braincomplexa Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Lempicka said: 32 members currently browsing. Well done all - showing great commitment to the cause 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiingallen Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Are we there yet? Nope? Alright... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toffee71 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Morning Tortuous time in life, no beta, Valhalla preloaded but can't play as am waiting for them to press button too, at least I can watch match shortly. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiingallen Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, toffee71 said: Morning Tortuous time in life, no beta, Valhalla preloaded but can't play as am waiting for them to press button too, at least I can watch match shortly. WDL? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toffee71 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, kiingallen said: WDL? Casualty of my drive setup as still have Odyssey installed on my uplay drive. Edited November 7, 2020 by toffee71 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltoalex Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 hace 10 horas, patpul dijo: I've started 27th time first season Segunda B in Spain. Still try to avoid relegation with Prat. I have to spend weekend there :'( Big game tomorrow vs my team, Nàstic de Tarragona! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejay Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 I hope the match engine is seriously improved. I tried really hard to enjoy fm 2020 but the football is just too dire regardless of what tactics you use Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 4 hours ago, ferrarinseb said: Is it confirmed they wont launch beta today? Miles has said they don't release on weekends, so I'd call that pretty much confirmed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavelberry Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, kevhamster said: Miles has said they don't release on weekends, so I'd call that pretty much confirmed. Unlesss he's pulling the old Jacobson triple cross... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Wavelberry said: Unlesss he's pulling the old Jacobson triple cross... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bezzy1970 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 I think SI games missed a trick here to get themselves well and truely in the heart of every FM player and even new players by getting the beta out on the day of the second lockdown. I assume they have a solid reason for not doing so. So I guess we'll just have to wait till they think its ready to be released. Roll on next week (hopefully) 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhughthom Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Lempicka said: Well, according to Genesis 1-2, on day 6 (Saturday) - God created all the creatures that live on dry land. I'm sure a Saturday release of Beta will be a piece of cake in comparison. Genesis is a Jewish book, the first day of the week for them is Sunday, so day six is Friday. Even Jehovah can't get us the beta it seems. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lempicka Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, johnhughthom said: Genesis is a Jewish book, the first day of the week for them is Sunday, so day six is Friday. Even Jehovah can't get us the beta it seems. Even the Gods are against us. Maybe we need a quest - to prove we are worthy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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