BamBamBam Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Looking at getting a new assistant, But what attribute is best for him setting training? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamBamBam Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 Anyone have any ideas for this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko1989 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 I am not sure will I help you, I don't know that much about this, but since no one is replying - I don't think there is one particular attribute for setting the training but when I search for new Ass. Man I always try to find one which has high attributes for: Level of discipline, Motivating, and Tactical knowledge. I may be wrong, but I think Level of discipline and motivating, with combination of high attribute for attacking for example will make that Ass man to have more star rattings in some training area. For example, if he has 20 for attacking, but only 10 for LoD and Motivating, he will have only 3 stars for attacking in training. But if he has Level of discipline 20, motivating 20 and Attacking 15 he will have 4 stars for attacking in trainung, so, more than the assistant with 20 attacking. High attribute for Tactical Knowledge makes him better at setting the opposition instructions before the match. Of course, I may be wrong, but that is what I do for years now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drajen Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 I think the author meant week-training schedule by assistant 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko1989 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Yes, probably, but I don't think there is one particular attribute for that. I just said which combination of attirbutes makes a good coach/assistant, at least, when it comes to training stars. Buy I may be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampalaea4 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 I think there are too "stats" for this. One is team knowledge which increase the more the assistant manager is part of the team. The other one is judging player ability which will know what players need to improve both on general and individual training Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
collisonmullan Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Personally I get my most well rounded member of staff to organise training. Whether that be assistant manager, coach or DOF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko1989 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) Who knows, but one thing is for sure - player development is absolutely cr*p in last couple of versions, so ass man attributes do not matter anymore. Development is absolutely random, some small group of wonderkids will develop insanely but most of the player will not improve at all. I did one test, I gave 200 PA, 20 ambition, 20 professionalism to 5000+ players in the game. No matter how good they played, no matter how good ass man/coaches they had, no matter how much they played, most of the players didn't improve at all. So, OP really should not worry that much about finding the perfect assitant since player development does not make any sense at all in these new versions. Edited December 22, 2020 by Marko1989 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkn20 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 11 hours ago, Marko1989 said: Who knows, but one thing is for sure - player development is absolutely cr*p in last couple of versions, so ass man attributes do not matter anymore. Development is absolutely random, some small group of wonderkids will develop insanely but most of the player will not improve at all. I did one test, I gave 200 PA, 20 ambition, 20 professionalism to 5000+ players in the game. No matter how good they played, no matter how good ass man/coaches they had, no matter how much they played, most of the players didn't improve at all. So, OP really should not worry that much about finding the perfect assitant since player development does not make any sense at all in these new versions. I would like to see those results you say live, there are plenty videos on youtube about player development and experiments, and you can see exactly the opposite you are saying, there are factors that do matter a lot. Professionalism / Ambition / Determination Playtime Coaching staff Training facilities Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkn20 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 On 08/09/2020 at 11:24, BamBamBam said: Looking at getting a new assistant, But what attribute is best for him setting training? The best is looking for an Ass man that has the formation and the style you wanna play, then the trainings will be around what you want, they won't be better or worst, will just depend on his own preferences. Foxinthebox has excellent videos about training in Youtube, I highly suggest you to watch them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko1989 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Sharkn20 said: I would like to see those results you say live, there are plenty videos on youtube about player development and experiments, and you can see exactly the opposite you are saying, there are factors that do matter a lot. Professionalism / Ambition / Determination Playtime Coaching staff Training facilities Some people did large number of tests and it seems that determination didn't have anything with development. Only PA, professionalism and ambition. Yes, there a lot of videos showing some insane progress for some 16-18y old players, but in many cases I saw no matter what, 200PA, 20 ambition and professionalism didn't do anything. Especially for 22y and 23 y old players. You will rarely see them improve. Even with 200PA. Players should not reach their peak at 22,23. And this is not was just problem in my saves, but also my friends noticed this so I did testing because of that. I will make one topic with screenshots when I have time and I will tag you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkn20 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 55 minutes ago, Marko1989 said: Some people did large number of tests and it seems that determination didn't have anything with development. Only PA, professionalism and ambition. Yes, there a lot of videos showing some insane progress for some 16-18y old players, but in many cases I saw no matter what, 200PA, 20 ambition and professionalism didn't do anything. Especially for 22y and 23 y old players. You will rarely see them improve. Even with 200PA. Players should not reach their peak at 22,23. And this is not was just problem in my saves, but also my friends noticed this so I did testing because of that. I will make one topic with screenshots when I have time and I will tag you. The vast development of players happen before they are 24 years old, specially earlier, so if you are talking about 22 or 23 years old that they don't develop to reach 200 PA I totally agree on that, they will never develop 60 points in one year, neither in real life, so I think SI has got this perfectly cover, wonderkids start to be really good at 18 / 19 years old nowadays, being world beaters by the time they are 23 or 24, if you are not a world beater by then, is pretty much the chance that you will never be one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko1989 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Sharkn20 said: The vast development of players happen before they are 24 years old, specially earlier, so if you are talking about 22 or 23 years old that they don't develop to reach 200 PA I totally agree on that, they will never develop 60 points in one year, neither in real life, so I think SI has got this perfectly cover, wonderkids start to be really good at 18 / 19 years old nowadays, being world beaters by the time they are 23 or 24, if you are not a world beater by then, is pretty much the chance that you will never be one. Well, that is a game breaker for me. It was not like that earlier. It is not good for long term saves. For example, you start your save with some team who has a 22y old player and has nice amout od PA. And you want to build your game around him, but he can't improve. Because that is how the game is coded. Aslo if almost all players reach their maximum at age of 23 then those players become boring after 23. I remember playing some long term saves just to see how the player will look when he reaches his maximum at about 30y old. Take for example Vardy.. Or De Bruyne, he is much better now at age of 29 than he was at age of 23. Mahrez as well. Kante. So, SI will dramatically improve some players older than 23 from version to version, but they not allow them to improve in the game after 23. No sense at all. They will put 15 marking for some wonderkid 20y old defender but at age of 30, maybe the best defender in the game, much more experiencde has now marking only 16. There is no single one realistic thing in the game, which is good, otherwise we would not be able to win anything with lower league clubs, so I don't know why are they are looking for realism in player development and why is so strict, when it would be much more fun if the players would improve until more older than 23. Edited December 23, 2020 by Marko1989 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overmars Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 My hope is that this falls under the man management attribute, but my hunch is that you'll get the same training schedules with or without a good assistant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkn20 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, Marko1989 said: Well, that is a game breaker for me. It was not like that earlier. It is not good for long term saves. For example, you start your save with some team who has a 22y old player and has nice amout od PA. And you want to build your game around him, but he can't improve. Because that is how the game is coded. Aslo if almost all players reach their maximum at age of 23 then those players become boring after 23. I remember playing some long term saves just to see how the player will look when he reaches his maximum at about 30y old. Take for example Vardy.. Or De Bruyne, he is much better now at age of 29 than he was at age of 23. Mahrez as well. Kante. So, SI will dramatically improve some players older than 23 from version to version, but they not allow them to improve in the game after 23. No sense at all. They will put 15 marking for some wonderkid 20y old defender but at age of 30, maybe the best defender in the game, much more experiencde has now marking only 16. There is no single one realistic thing in the game, which is good, otherwise we would not be able to win anything with lower league clubs, so I don't know why are they are looking for realism in player development and why is so strict, when it would be much more fun if the players would improve until more older than 23. We will have to agree on disagreeing in here, my experience is just completely different to yours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamBamBam Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 16 hours ago, drajen said: I think the author meant week-training schedule by assistant Yep. Just wanted to know what to look for when looking for, for someone who sets training. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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