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14 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

What I often do though, is ask my Ass man to pitch the match squad for the next game, (immediately prior to the game). I don't stick with it 100% ever, (because he always includes a 2nd GK), but every so often he picks a player not in the Senior squad that wasn't on my radar, (or the one that I especially like), he picks a player slightly out of position in a role that I wasn't even considering him for.

I agree completely. While I normally set the team myself, I regularly do this for the very reasons you mention. Sometimes the ass man (if any good) will see things that I hadn't considered.

Specifically I always do it right after a youth intake.

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Academy Products at 30 years old. Feb 2043

I know that a lot of people have been waiting for this post and in particular @_Ben_

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(28j) James Allen (PNG) (Res). I know this players doesn't look like he had that special a career, but considering the level we were at when he came through I think he did brilliantly. Still playing a decent(ish) standard into his 30's.

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(29f) Kwakwa (SWE) (GHA). I'm a little underwhelmed by this players career. With a PA of almost 90 I think he should have done better. I really liked him and you can see that I signed him for a 2nd time, but for whatever reason it just didn't happen for him. He's a (Bal) personality now but other players like him developed much better. 

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(29i) Jordan Barron *. He was my 1st choice right back for almost a decade and we were promoted 4 times during his time with us. 

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(30a) James (DMA) *. The star of the show. The one that got away. He is the 1 real absolutely top-class player that we have produced so far in this save. 

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(30e) Calum Bird (WAL)

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(30g) Tom Day (NIR)

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18 minutes ago, Pompeyboyz said:

Wow.

(30a) James (DMA) *  with a PA of 177 and a CA 174 :eek: 

Would love to know what his CA was when he came through your intake

No idea mate. Sorry. I haven't even got a suggestion as to how we might hazard a guess. 

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16 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

No idea mate. Sorry. I haven't even got a suggestion as to how we might hazard a guess. 

Two ways to find out I think, though both have some labor involved. One, go back to the screenshot you posted from when he came through, and use the IGE on some random player somewhere to edit the attributes and positions to be the same, and then look and see what the IGE tells you that CA is. Two, fire up the pregame database editor and create a player with the same attributes.

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2 hours ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

That's completely my sort of post. Someone is in a very good mood today. :lol:

Just thinking of reasons why golden generation is overused - and then between that post and this I have had my intake information and they are not a golden generation...

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Just now, Pompeyboyz said:

Only the second and you are in March?????

Slacking boy..slacking

I have thought the same myself often this season. 

We are not even top of the yellow cards list for the 1st time in as long as I can remember. :eek:

And before I tell you that it's all because we have spent most of the season in the automatic promotion spots so are going to receive fewer bookings, (I had started typing it), the team currently top of the yellow card table, is Swindon who also sit top of the league. The top 2 teams in the league are also the 2 teams who have received the most bookings. League 2 really is a battle-zone this season. 

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1 hour ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Help me please. 

How do I get the pop-up button back that stops me going straight to a match? It's gone and I keep playing matches rather than IR'ing them. :lol:

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Nooooooooooooooooooooooo! :rolleyes:

Preferences -> Reset -> Confirmation Dialogs.

Does them all though so you'll have to work back through anything else you've turned off.

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19 hours ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Youth Intake preview. Dec 2042

1 single green line and it says that it's a Golden Generation!  

Never seen that before. :lol:

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Youth Intake day. Mar 2043.

Really not sure what to make of this intake. It's not awful, but then again there isn't even a single player with 5.0 PA , (which is my standard benchmark). There are certainly players here will play for the 1st team, but we need players who will improve it. A pair from Jamaica is interesting, and Cameroon is a new Nation, but that's about it. Certainly no foreign superstar like we have had in other intakes. Also worth noting that there is just 1 single player from Irchester in the intake this season. 

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Squad by PPA

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Nations already represented by previous intakes. 
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(43a) Cresswell (F.Det). He looks ok. A little slow perhaps. Positioning is good. It's hard to tell at this age. 

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(43b) Stevens (Unamb). I really can't see why this bloke is 1.5 CA stars. He really doesn't look all that. 

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(43d) Jolley (F.Loyal). You wait ages for a "lefty" left winger to come through and then 2 come through in the same intake. :rolleyes:

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2 hours ago, _Ben_ said:

Preferences -> Reset -> Confirmation Dialogs.

Does them all though so you'll have to work back through anything else you've turned off.

Thanks. I had looked and looked but just couldn't see it.

I've played more games this season that I've played in years. :lol:

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Good work @Jimbokav1971!

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On a side note - I was about to ask you if you're ever planning to get a logo for Irchester but I'm not sure graphics are something you've ever, historically, been too bothered with?

So I did a little search and you have the beauty (who doesn't love a historical reference) of a badge:

IRCHESTER UNITED FC – Uhlsport United Counties Football League

 

But you appear to play in red and not blue:

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I wonder if this is a case of the game automatically generating colours for a club as the person editing the file hasn't allocated kit colours to you?

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Season Summary. May 2041

League 2. A little frustrated that we weren't good enough to win the title, but promotion is what counts. 

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FA Cup. Beating Barnsley was a big deal. (They finished 13th in the Championship). It was also the 1st time that we sold out our new stadium. 

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Carabao Cup. Who cares.

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Leasing.com Cup. Who cares. 

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FA Youth Cup. There is no disgrace to losing to Huddersfield, (who are in the Championship), but I'm desperate to do better than this. Maybe when our best youngsters are playing for the U18's instead of the Senior side. Maybe then. 

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U18 Div 3 South-East has been changed to U18 Div 3 South-West. Surprised not to win this. Maybe the West is harder than the East

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U18 Div 3 Cup. Beaten in the Final, but that's still a good effort. 

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Goal-scoring keepers. I've only just realised, (too late), that when (39c) Mendoza (COL) (Bal) * was sold and immediately moved back on loan to us, he was removed from the list of players to take penalties and free-kicks. I never noticed. :lol:

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Overall Best XI

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Awards.

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Squad by Appearances

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Discipline.

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Finances.

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Facilities

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Transfers

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Tracker

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Records

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Congrats on the promotion! Is there much difference in prize money/tv money in L1 compared to L2 now that you've got to pay more for youth setup?

 

Also will be interesting to see improvement in youth intakes with new setup

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2 hours ago, _Ben_ said:

Good work @Jimbokav1971!

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On a side note - I was about to ask you if you're ever planning to get a logo for Irchester but I'm not sure graphics are something you've ever, historically, been too bothered with?

So I did a little search and you have the beauty (who doesn't love a historical reference) of a badge:

IRCHESTER UNITED FC – Uhlsport United Counties Football League

 

But you appear to play in red and not blue:

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I wonder if this is a case of the game automatically generating colours for a club as the person editing the file hasn't allocated kit colours to you?

Thanks for the badge but I'm really not interested in graphics at all, (although I did get someone to do me a kit for the Welsh save earlier this year). 

Yeah, this place was a big Roman settlement back in the day. 

With regards to the kit, the juniors definitely play in blue and yellow, but yeah, the senior team play in red/black and the Reserves play in red/black and purple/black.

I'm guessing whoever did the FM research clicked on the wrong link. 

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3 hours ago, TheRobert said:

Congratulations!

Thanks very much. 

55 minutes ago, dllu said:

Too bad you missed the title, but well done getting promoted! 

Yeah, just have to accept the promotion. A bit annoying, but it was a definite choice I made when I sold (38c) McCormack (IRL) (Bal) * in January so I can't complain. 

53 minutes ago, rosque said:

Congrats on the promotion! Is there much difference in prize money/tv money in L1 compared to L2 now that you've got to pay more for youth setup?

Also will be interesting to see improvement in youth intakes with new setup

Thanks very much. :thup:

Let's have a look at TV/prize money 1st. 

League 2 TV money is £344,150.

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League 2 Prize Money is going to be tiny. £12,203 for finishing 8th last season. Will update this when I get this seasons money. You can see now why I have to prioritise the FA Cup even though I didn't want to. A full house against both Barnsley & Palace as well as £281k all in is decent.

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Sponsorship Income is awful too. 

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I will quote this post and update when I know what's happening in League 1. There is no prize money info available for Leagues? There used to be I'm sure of it. 

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41 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Thanks very much. 

Yeah, just have to accept the promotion. A bit annoying, but it was a definite choice I made when I sold (38c) McCormack (IRL) (Bal) * in January so I can't complain. 

Thanks very much. :thup:

Let's have a look at TV/prize money 1st. 

League 2 TV money is £344,150.

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League 2 Prize Money is going to be tiny. £12,203 for finishing 8th last season. Will update this when I get this seasons money. You can see now why I have to prioritise the FA Cup even though I didn't want to. A full house against both Barnsley & Palace as well as £281k all in is decent.

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Sponsorship Income is awful too. 

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I will quote this post and update when I know what's happening in League 1. There is no prize money info available for Leagues? There used to be I'm sure of it. 

Isnt prize money info usually in the rules section?

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Fans Trust. Jun 2043.

There has been on-going talk over the last couple of years about a Fans Trust buying the club and to be honest I'm all for it. O'Neill has only recently taken over, and he did consolidate and reduce the debt a little, but the Fans Trust actually appeals to me. 

I don't expect the board to bail me out of any financial hole. I am to be self-sufficient financially and I plan on building quite a "war chest" before too long. 

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The reason we finished 2nd rather than 2nd last season was because I opted to sell (38c) McCormack (IRL) (Bal) * to League 1 Hull for £1.3M rising to £2.3M, (plus 50% and a friendly). He scored 18 goals in the 1st half of the season and then missed 2 months with injury and by the time I sold him in Jan he hadn't yet returned to the team. Had I kept him I'm positive that we would have won the league, but he didn't want to sign a new contract and it's not just the £1.3M I was missing out on, or the £1M in add-on or the friendly, (which are all significant in their own right), but all of these together plus the 50% clause. 

I think I have done quite well with the deals so far and it's these that have allowed us to get where we are now, (League 1), but these deals need to be coming on a regular basis to keep us topped up and financially secure. If I don't do that, then when we do get a start through the intake, the board will just accept a rubbish cash offer for him and we just can't miss out on the add-ons again. 

Clauses

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(33d) Jim Hanna (NIR)(F.Pro) *. We've got a fee for 1 International appearance and we get 15% of his profit. Next to worthless. 

(36d) Rey Thomas (BEL)(F.Det)*. The deals we've got for him don't really matter because I've arranged to sign him on a free. Notts Co paid us £195k for him. 

(37c) Komba (TAN) *. We're not going to get any cash from the clauses because he's about to join Porto on a free. 

(38c) McCormack (IRL) (Bal) *. He's just gone to Hull and we've got loads of add-ons including a 50% clause. 

(39b) JFC (ESP) (Perf) 5'10" *. This could be the mother-load if it comes off. We have a 50% clause and this kid who is at Valencia now has 2 Spanish caps at 20 years old and is a regular in La Liga. I need someone big to come in and buy him. Please please please please please. (Or for our DoF to do a deal on the clause). 

(39c) Mendoza (COL) (Bal) *. Lots of add-ons including 50%. I'm hoping my DoF will do a deal for this when his loan ends shortly. 

(40a) Sjoberg (Bal) lose PPM. I've had him in on loan for the 2nd part of this season from Forest and we still have lots of clauses on him including 50%. I will try and get him back in on loan next season in League 1. 

(40b) Gilchrist (SCO)(L.Heart). He's on loan at Sutton in League 2 from Watford and is developing nicely. Scouts estimate that he could go for up to £5.75M. We have a 50% clause on him. 

(40c) Paul Stovell (F.Amb). We only have a 15% profit deal on him, and they are offering us a pittance to buy it out. I like this kid, (and Notts Co stole him), so I'm holding out for a better offer. 

All in all there are a few decent deals there. The Spanish kid could be huge, but it has to either be negotiated or he has to be sold. I need to keep topping these up and while the initial money will keep our heads above water, the add-ons are what is surely going to secure our future in the long run. 

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Another great save Jimbo, I have really enjoyed reading through it over the past few days. I'm thinking of starting a youth-only save in a lower European nation, any ideas on which country? Looking forward to seeing how you do in League 1

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1 hour ago, AFH said:

Another great save Jimbo, I have really enjoyed reading through it over the past few days. I'm thinking of starting a youth-only save in a lower European nation, any ideas on which country? Looking forward to seeing how you do in League 1

I know I am not Jimbo but would recommend a league with a high youth recruitment level otherwise it is extremely difficult! Unless you are looking for that 100 year save :D. I did one in Spain and enjoyed it!

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1 hour ago, AFH said:

Another great save Jimbo, I have really enjoyed reading through it over the past few days. I'm thinking of starting a youth-only save in a lower European nation, any ideas on which country? Looking forward to seeing how you do in League 1

Thanks very much. 

I suppose it depends how hard you want it to be. 

Wales is the hardest save I have done in a while. The domestic challenge with TNS was 1 thing, but then we obviously had to battle to get anywhere in Europe and I'm surprised I won a European trophy there. 

Iceland for example is great, and it's relatively easy to dominate domestic football, you get European football very early in the save and European success is a huge, (but rewarding challenge). I classed it as a success when I qualified from the Group Stage of the Champions league. 

I did a save a while ago with Partizan that I absolutely loved, and like the challenge in Wales with TNS, there is obviously a huge domestic challenge with Red Star. The thing about Serbia of course is that they produce some amazing players and by taking over as Partizan, (as I did), I was automatically producing good players and had some in the pipeline when I started too. 

If I was to look further afield for somewhere I haven't managed before properly, I had an amazing season managing Rijeka in Croatia in the joint save. At some point I'm going to have to go back and manage them. I've always wanted to started off as a B Team manager and progress to the Senior side of the same club, but I've never done it. I think Rijeka Reserves play in a competitive league and that might make Croatia attractive for a challenge like this. 

All I would say is, don't think that your end-game has to be success in the Champions League. I remember in Wales with Ton Pentre I was completely happy with just over-coming TNS, so maybe try to give yourself lots of little challenges/targets rather than the ultimate Champions League success one. The reality is that with a small Country you're probably not going to win it.

Good luck. 

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52 minutes ago, deez0r said:

I know I am not Jimbo but would recommend a league with a high youth recruitment level otherwise it is extremely difficult! Unless you are looking for that 100 year save :D. I did one in Spain and enjoyed it!

It depends how hard you want to make it. Success shouldn't be measures by Champions League progress. 

@AFHHere are some of the Youth Recruitment Ratings, so if you don't want to see this then don't look

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Germany is 155. (I didn't know it was higher than Spain and France). Beware though. Kids can't play league football in Germany so it's hard to get going.

Spain is 140

France is 140

England is 120

Portugal is 114 I'm well overdue a Portugese save.

Serbia is 100

Croatia is 98

Scotland is 83

Wales is 71

Iceland is 67

 

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1 hour ago, deez0r said:

I know I am not Jimbo but would recommend a league with a high youth recruitment level otherwise it is extremely difficult! Unless you are looking for that 100 year save :D. I did one in Spain and enjoyed it!

 

38 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Thanks very much. 

I suppose it depends how hard you want it to be. 

Wales is the hardest save I have done in a while. The domestic challenge with TNS was 1 thing, but then we obviously had to battle to get anywhere in Europe and I'm surprised I won a European trophy there. 

Iceland for example is great, and it's relatively easy to dominate domestic football, you get European football very early in the save and European success is a huge, (but rewarding challenge). I classed it as a success when I qualified from the Group Stage of the Champions league. 

I did a save a while ago with Partizan that I absolutely loved, and like the challenge in Wales with TNS, there is obviously a huge domestic challenge with Red Star. The thing about Serbia of course is that they produce some amazing players and by taking over as Partizan, (as I did), I was automatically producing good players and had some in the pipeline when I started too. 

If I was to look further afield for somewhere I haven't managed before properly, I had an amazing season managing Rijeka in Croatia in the joint save. At some point I'm going to have to go back and manage them. I've always wanted to started off as a B Team manager and progress to the Senior side of the same club, but I've never done it. I think Rijeka Reserves play in a competitive league and that might make Croatia attractive for a challenge like this. 

All I would say is, don't think that your end-game has to be success in the Champions League. I remember in Wales with Ton Pentre I was completely happy with just over-coming TNS, so maybe try to give yourself lots of little challenges/targets rather than the ultimate Champions League success one. The reality is that with a small Country you're probably not going to win it.

Good luck. 

 

Thank you both! I was thinking something a bit in the middle, I really enjoyed reading the Wales thread but couldn't imagine myself doing the same sort of slog. I have thought about Serbia a lot, I think a nation like that in the sort of middle range would be ideal really. I will look at some similar nations.

Another option is Ireland/N. Ireland, I really enjoy managing in Ireland which I suppose would be close-ish in terms of youth rating to Wales (?) but I think if I was going to do a save trying to make Ireland into a powerhouse I would probably do it where I buy all the best Irish prospects and try and develop them at home and then try and manage the national team as well.

Thank you for posting the youth ratings, and like you say, it's all about making your own targets to keep the save interesting and fulfilling, especially so you don't get disheartened by Europe.

I will have a poke around in the editor at clubs/nations! Thanks guys

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6 hours ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Thanks very much. 

Yeah, just have to accept the promotion. A bit annoying, but it was a definite choice I made when I sold (38c) McCormack (IRL) (Bal) * in January so I can't complain. 

Thanks very much. :thup:

Let's have a look at TV/prize money 1st. 

League 2 TV money is £344,150.

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League 2 Prize Money is going to be tiny. £12,203 for finishing 8th last season. Will update this when I get this seasons money. You can see now why I have to prioritise the FA Cup even though I didn't want to. A full house against both Barnsley & Palace as well as £281k all in is decent.

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Sponsorship Income is awful too. 

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I will quote this post and update when I know what's happening in League 1. There is no prize money info available for Leagues? There used to be I'm sure of it. 

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League 2 prize money. (Nothing below 3rd). 

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League 1 prize money. (Nothing below 2nd).

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Clauses update. Jun 2043

(40c) Paul Stovell (F.Amb) was the kid who Notts Co nicked off me before I could get him on a Pro contract. We have a per league appearance clause that I am happy to just leave and see it trickle in, and a  15% profit clause. We can sell the clause for £257k now, (it's jumped up a lot and for us to earn that money from a transfer he would have to be sold for somewhere in the region of £1.77M. His estimated cost is £450k-£1M so I think I'm going to accept this. We might lose in the long-run. but I think this is a decent deal for right now. 

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We've also got a new deal for our 50% share of the next  (40b) Gilchrist (SCO)(L.Heart) deal who is at Watford. I don't think that's a great deal actually and I think I will hold off, (but I am trying to get him in on loan). 

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4 hours ago, AFH said:

 

 

Thank you both! I was thinking something a bit in the middle, I really enjoyed reading the Wales thread but couldn't imagine myself doing the same sort of slog. I have thought about Serbia a lot, I think a nation like that in the sort of middle range would be ideal really. I will look at some similar nations.

Another option is Ireland/N. Ireland, I really enjoy managing in Ireland which I suppose would be close-ish in terms of youth rating to Wales (?) but I think if I was going to do a save trying to make Ireland into a powerhouse I would probably do it where I buy all the best Irish prospects and try and develop them at home and then try and manage the national team as well.

Thank you for posting the youth ratings, and like you say, it's all about making your own targets to keep the save interesting and fulfilling, especially so you don't get disheartened by Europe.

I will have a poke around in the editor at clubs/nations! Thanks guys

 

After following Jimbo's save I will also be making a youth-only save in my home country which is Poland. 

I hope that Youth Recruitment Rating will become dynamic thing in the future as I think it is limiting one club / country saves after a while.


Within my save I will be making extra rules which will reward the work and hopefully add a bit of realism. EG. increase slightly youth recruitment rating when you or team from your nation will advance from CL group stages. 

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1 minute ago, rrozek93 said:

 

After following Jimbo's save I will also be making a youth-only save in my home country which is Poland. 

I hope that Youth Recruitment Rating will become dynamic thing in the future as I think it is limiting one club / country saves after a while.


Within my save I will be making extra rules which will reward the work and hopefully add a bit of realism. EG. increase slightly youth recruitment rating when you or team from your nation will advance from CL group stages. 

That's a good idea @rrozek93If I was to work out a way in which Nation Youth Recruitment was fluid I would probably link it to Nation & Club coefficient ranking as well as combined structure reputation. 

I've never managed in Poland although it is on the list. 

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3 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

That's a good idea @rrozek93If I was to work out a way in which Nation Youth Recruitment was fluid I would probably link it to Nation & Club coefficient ranking as well as combined structure reputation. 

I've never managed in Poland although it is on the list. 

I agree with adding coefficients into the calculation. I have few ideas that, of rules that could be made to increase / decrease youth rating 

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Transfer news. Aug 2043

In Jun the DoF negotiated a deal with Watford for this clause for £760k. I'm glad I didn't take it now. 

I'm hoping that they also have clauses in their deal which will result in us getting additional payments every time they get paid out. 

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Finances2b9f545ae04d21644369222195fb43a9.png We're back in credit. At least for a while. I had the opportunity to take him on loan at the beginning of the season, but pulled out at the last minute when I decided that I needed to play our own youngsters even if they weren't of the same quality. We always have to think about player development ahead of results. 

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Aug 2043

League 1. Well this is a little bit of a surprise. 6 points from our opening 3 games is brilliant and although we then went and lost the next 2 games, winning against Doncaster means that we finish the opening month in the Playoff positions. I know this is really early stages but this is a hell of a start. 

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Cup games

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2 minutes ago, dllu said:

Great start to League 1! Maybe your stay there will be of the shorter variety... ;) 

I think it's too soon to say that. We usually perform more poorly in the 2nd half of the season. Granted I think that's due to the young nature of the squad, but we do have some older heads scattered about now. Just avoiding relegation will do me fine this season. 

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Sep 2043

League 1. We're very strong on the 2nd half of games with goals coming in the 80th, 86th, 88th, 89th, 91st and 95th minutes this month. The only game where we weren't the stronger team late on was against Sunderland who we led twice and who scored a late winner. 

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1 hour ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

I think it's too soon to say that. We usually perform more poorly in the 2nd half of the season. Granted I think that's due to the young nature of the squad, but we do have some older heads scattered about now. Just avoiding relegation will do me fine this season. 

Absolutely. I tend to experience the same in youth saves. The more points you can rake in early to avoid a relegation battle in the spring, the better.

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Oct 2043.

League 1. We'e had a tough period at the end of last month and following into this month, but we bounced back with 2 really good wins at the end of the month. We are no longer in the Playoffs, but only so on goal difference so I'm personally delighted with how things are going. Looking down, we are 12 points ahead of the relegation zone and all I care about is extending that gap. 

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Cup games. There is no love lost between ourselves and Sutton, (they made absolutely millions off of the (30a) James (DMA) * deal), so it was good to give them a bloody nose. 

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4 hours ago, dllu said:

Absolutely. I tend to experience the same in youth saves. The more points you can rake in early to avoid a relegation battle in the spring, the better.

Yep. Despite our good start it's certainly a case of looking down rather than up. 

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