jamez91 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 My strikers never seem involved, they never really score and when presented a chance always miss, they never get match ratings above 7 and its really annoying me how do i get the best out of my strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamez91 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 By the way I have games with real madrid and arsenal and it happens on both Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewgoodfield Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I play with a LINK forward and a centre forward So I will have Van Perise Vela Van Persie will have his mentiality 3 bars of full where VELA will have full . Vela on forward runs , and van persie no runs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamez91 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 Well my strikers play with a mentality of 1 above from my wingers (rule of one) Should I move them both up a notch so they are close to the goal?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice96 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Got the same problem mate. Doing my head in. I normally have my 2nd forward with 1 less than the other and my wingers 1 less than my second striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyke Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Same problem for me, and Im trying to use the 'rule of one' as well - I think that frame work needs some tweaking for FM 09 as far as forwards are concerned. Are your midfielders running out of condition too? Seems accelerated for those positions for me (central and wingers) - I struggle to get them lasting a whole match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamez91 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 Yes his happens to me, anyone got any advice for me and the others! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Perfect-Fm'er! Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Been okay for me, Agbonlahor scored 11 in 19. Carew 12 in 18! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamez91 Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 Been okay for me' date=' Agbonlahor scored 11 in 19. Carew 12 in 18![/quote']How far away do your strikers play from your centre mids and wingers??? How many notches on the mentality bar? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 This should probably be in the tactics forum. I have two tactics depending on which style I'm playing: For my flowing fotoball, I have one striker on default attacking mentality (right in the middle of the bar) who has decent passing and use him as a link up striker with a lot of creativity and throughballs set to often. The other striker set to the fast striker default settings. For my "hoof it up the field" tactic, I have both strikers on 5 notches of attack, and a team mentality to aim for them as target men with "run onto ball" with a fast direct style of play, so I hoof it up the field for them to run on to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Same issue here. Its interesting, but the slower players play better.... I think my strikers are too ahead of the midfield, when my team gets the ball they run too far in front. Slower players seem to be more effective, probably because they don't get too far away! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamez91 Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 Yeh well i want both pairs on the same mentality settins for example cb's on 10 notches, the strikers on 12 notches and so on. I just need to get the ball to my strikers and not have the midfielders blasting the ball all the time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Yeh well i want both pairs on the same mentality settins for example cb's on 10 notches, the strikers on 12 notches and so on. Why? 101010101 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradz FM Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 ive scored 14 goals in 9 games as hull playing 4-4-1-1 so its not the case with me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowan vine vine vine Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 down the guide wwfan an co have put together its helped me a lot , good luck . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakbag Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Pavlyuchenko finished with 20 odd goals for me as a lone striker most of the time and arshavin 10 goals and a barrel load of assists playing behind him:thup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 One striker was the way to go in FM08, and certainly looks like it's still the preferred choice in FM09. Standard 4-4-2, rest in peace! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradz FM Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 its a shame really coz i hate the 1 striker up top formation. Very Bolton-esque when Allardyce used to just about keep them up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonfun1980 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I am 4-4-2 all the way, hate 1 striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamez91 Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 Respect to you jonfun, im 4-4-2 aswell, unless i only have 1 striker available!!! I need to know how to get my strikers performing because van nistlerooy and higuian getting 5's each game just isnt normal! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradz FM Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 i play all my team with v. little creative freedom and they all on a similar mentality except for my AM and it seems to be ok! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wlv Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I had this problem for ages with barca, after watching loads of full matches in 3d. My strikers only got the ball in 2vs4/5 situations, meaning they'd generally try long shots. What fixed this was to change their mentality to one below the wingers, set a target man, with one winger aiming crosses to head and the other to feet. Also set the more creative striker freedom to high with short passing. This meant my strikers weren't so close to the opposing defenders, the target man would lay balls off too the creative player who would on turn feed the ball out to the wingers or play 1-2's with the target man. This tip is actually in game, try the left footed striker on the right and the right footer on the left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
senorcoo Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I am currently playing 4-5-1 due to a glut of useful midfielders and an extreme shortage of strikers (money is tight in Portuguese Div 2 :-) Really controlling the balance of play, but if the opposition starts soaking up my pressure, I'll sub out the poorer performing CM of the three and bring in my backup striker as I switch to a standard 4-4-2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
presumingpete Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I'm playing Long Ball and not having any problems, route 1 all the way! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamez91 Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 Well I hate the long ball i like to play like arsenal a variety of tempo and mixed passing, I will try and lower my strikers back to my wingers mentality therefore its more of a 4-2-4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigguyinthesky Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 i new to this can someone explain the rule of one to me please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokes_83 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 i new to this can someone explain the rule of one to me please READ THIS: http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=61144 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I use a different mentality for both of them, so I have one at around 12 and the other around 15. I've come to accept that if I'm up against a good team and having to defend a lot, the striker further up the pitch will be lucky to have a 6+ rating, but he's still important for any counter-attacks we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamez91 Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 Ive got them playing the same menatality as wingers and its working wonders, Luciano Becchio hatrick in the 1st league game! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N^G Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 should we really have to read war & peace just to win a match in a computer game? I've started 3 or 4 games so far and trying anything 'normal' results in getting gubbed most games. The only team I've had any success with is athletic miniero, and only then because I didn't change the tactics they had set up when I took them over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 should we really have to read war & peace just to win a match in a computer game? Yes, yes you should. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N^G Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Yes, yes you should. Rhetorical questions and sarcasm are obviously lost on some people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Rhetorical questions and sarcasm are obviously lost on some people. Are they really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 should we really have to read war & peace just to win a match in a computer game?I've started 3 or 4 games so far and trying anything 'normal' results in getting gubbed most games. The only team I've had any success with is athletic miniero, and only then because I didn't change the tactics they had set up when I took them over. It is more of a simulation than a game. It tries to simulate real life so basic tactics won't always get results. I believe the best tactics are the ones built for your team rather than the other way around. Find the strengths and weaknesses and build a base tactic from there. I have found changing the individual tactics for your forwards so one is a link up striker and the other is a last man striker is the best way to get goals, unless of course you are going for route one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonForever Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Rhetorical questions and sarcasm are obviously lost on some people. Are they really?Are they really? LOL, no kidding... I truly don't understand how people complain about this game in this fashion and compare it to other games. "Should I have to read a tome?" Well, if you're a tactical genius and know football in and out, then probably not. This is *not* any other game. It is a very detailed and challenging football simulation, and despite the difficulties, they do a pretty bang-up job of getting the feel and the challenge right, giving the user a taste of managing big-time football. If you want to just punch up a 4-4-2 and watch the action go by, then FIFA 09 or PES is for you. If you look at other simulation type games, whether on computer or table top, etc., you'll see that the successful practitioners invest a lot of time off the table, away from the computer, preparing, learning history, strategy, and esp. game mechanics. FM is not *just* a game. It is a simulation, and a simulation designed to give you all the reality possible from your desk. So reading a 50 page tome, with which wwfan and millie have done a superb job, is really not that much of an investment into the enjoyment of a pretty darn good simulation... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aodhagan Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 My strikers never seem involved, they never really score and when presented a chance always miss, they never get match ratings above 7 and its really annoying me how do i get the best out of my strikers. My strikers are on performance enhancing drugs so they score a combined 90 goals a season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongler222 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Gota introduce some drugs for fm2010, enhance the realism, give u the option to give ur players performance enhancing drugs lol. btw will fm 2010 be called fm10... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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