Totalfootballfan Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 hours ago, karanhsingh said: Is there any tactic that uses IW or IF roles? All the best formations seem to use wingers now. I find that Wingers are more effective than IWs and IFs on the current ME so I don't use IWs / IFs in the tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyPunch Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 TFF, is it ok to change the individual training same as the tactic role after the players has fully developed? or it doesnt really matter. I wonder if they max out the role familiarity will increase the effectiveness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, HeavyPunch said: TFF, is it ok to change the individual training same as the tactic role after the players has fully developed? or it doesnt really matter. I wonder if they max out the role familiarity will increase the effectiveness. Mate, if you are talking about the familiarity that is shown at the screenshot below then I was able to reach about 90% fluidity of it when I train the suggested roles/duties at the OP and I think you'll get about 0.5% more effectiveness if it reaches 100%... if you ask me then would not pay soo much attention to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyPunch Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 42 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: Mate, if you are talking about the familiarity that is shown at the screenshot below then I was able to reach about 90% fluidity of it when I train the suggested roles/duties at the OP and I think you'll get about 0.5% more effectiveness if it reaches 100%... if you ask me then would not pay soo much attention to it Mine showing this after maxing out of training as the OP. Only half of the positions show 90% and above. I guess is normal eh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 21 minutes ago, HeavyPunch said: Mine showing this after maxing out of training as the OP. Only half of the positions show 90% and above. I guess is normal eh. It might be there's some issue with the skin you use Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyPunch Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, Totalfootballfan said: It might be there's some issue with the skin you use I have change back to the original skin, its still showing the same But when i change the individual training as the tactic one, it shows improvement on the familiarity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAECK Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 will you use sergio gomez as DLp? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 16 minutes ago, HeavyPunch said: I have change back to the original skin, its still showing the same But when i change the individual training as the tactic one, it shows improvement on the familiarity. it's hard to say what the indicator means... could you check the detailed information for each player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolle69 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, MAECK said: will you use sergio gomez as DLp? I do, sometimes even box to box... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyPunch Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Totalfootballfan said: it's hard to say what the indicator means... could you check the detailed information for each players? I have trained the players as the OP for several seasons, but it always cant max out the position/role/duty. Some max at 50%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, HeavyPunch said: I have trained the players as the OP for several seasons, but it always cant max out the position/role/duty. Some max at 50%. I see this player are training Complete Wing-Back (Attack) but he must train Complete Wing-Back (Support) … that's why he's got only "Competent" if you change it to Complete Wing-Back (Support) then he'll get "Accomplished" and if you change it to Wing-Back (Support) then he'll get "Fluid" but if you ask me then I thin there's 0.5 % difference between "Accomplished" and "Fluid" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyPunch Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Totalfootballfan said: I see this player are training Complete Wing-Back (Attack) but he must train Complete Wing-Back (Support) … that's why he's got only "Competent" if you change it to Complete Wing-Back (Support) then he'll get "Accomplished" and if you change it to Wing-Back (Support) then he'll get "Fluid" but if you ask me then I thin there's 0.5 % difference between "Accomplished" and "Fluid" he was in Complete Wing-Back (Support) all the time, i changed it to test out the difference. But ok, i guess it is not important. thank you! Edited March 18, 2020 by HeavyPunch Left to write Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, HeavyPunch said: he was in Complete Wing-Back (Support) all the time, i changed it to test out the difference. But ok, i guess it is not important. thank you! That's weird.. but if you have any doubts then you can use the same roles/duties for the individual training focus... honestly, I've never tested it and I can't say what difference will be if a player has Competent/Accomplished/Fluid for Position/Role/Duty but I think it's extremely small something like 1-2% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyPunch Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Totalfootballfan said: That's weird.. but if you have any doubts then you can use the same roles/duties for the individual training focus... honestly, I've never tested it and I can't say what difference will be if a player has Competent/Accomplished/Fluid for Position/Role/Duty Yea its weird and it bothers me sometimes watching the bar stopped at 50% but i still follow the OP because of the attributes development. Thought of bringing that up to see if it's just me. I'm trying to changing it after they are fully developed and see the difference. Will post a screen shot and show the images of them maxing out at 90%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 28 minutes ago, MAECK said: will you use sergio gomez as DLp? are you talking about this guy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAECK Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 yea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, HeavyPunch said: Yea its weird and it bothers me sometimes watching the bar stopped at 50% but i still follow the OP because of the attributes development. If you train the same roles/duties as in the tactic instead those I suggested then there'll be minimal impact for the attributes development so you can train them if you want Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, MAECK said: yea Are you going to use him in the first team? What team do you manage? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAECK Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 i still play an onlie game with my brother but am city for 2 season now. thinking he might be good in the long run Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, MAECK said: i still play an onlie game with my brother but am city for 2 season now. thinking he might be good in the long run As the 1st season he's only about 120CA and it's a bit low for Man City but when he reaches at least 150CA then he'll do well as BBM, DLP and even Shadow Striker 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garotospfc Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 It's frustrating! Every time, during the middle of the season (mainly December), my results drop dramatically. Does anyone know why this happens? @Totalfootballfan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, garotospfc said: It's frustrating! Every time, during the middle of the season (mainly December), my results drop dramatically. Does anyone know why this happens? @Totalfootballfan Mate, let's say in December you play vs Liverpool vs Man City, vs Chelsea, vs Arsenal and vs Man Utd and in November you play vs Norwich, vs Brighton, vs Crystal Palace and vs Sheff Utd then in this case no need to be Nostradamus to predict that your result will be worse in December than in October because in October you face weaker team than in December. That's why in the second half of the season you might have very different result in the 1st half of the season, for example, in the 1st half of the season you might play vs stronger teams at home which gives you better chances to win them and in the 2nd half you might play vs stronger teams away which reduces your chances to win them. I don't find there's anything mystical in December 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandChasm Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 7 hours ago, delaneytomlinson said: use Raptor V4 Thanks. i will give it a try Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaneytomlinson Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) @Totalfootballfan Have you gone to league season unbeaten yet in the top 5 leagues in Europe? Iv'e nearly done it twice but lost both times with 10 games left, it's something I want to achieve along with doing the quadruple, Super cup/league cup/league and Champions League which I have a chance to do currently. Edit: Won three trophies, lost in the CL final for the third year in a row , second year in a row losing on penalties-_- Edited March 19, 2020 by delaneytomlinson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyPunch Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 9 hours ago, Totalfootballfan said: If you train the same roles/duties as in the tactic instead those I suggested then there'll be minimal impact for the attributes development so you can train them if you want After changing the role training same as the tactic role. they look like this. Much better to look at 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vgajjar30 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 On 17/03/2020 at 01:20, kelvin0131 said: hi, could you share again ?? i cannot dowload thanks 4411.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sezer1905 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 @Totalfootballfan hi tff, I playy very good this cerber tactic in the league, but in the champions league, I can't play good against big teams? Do you have any suggestions for this situation? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonmeds Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 How would your starting eleven with Manchester United look like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 5 hours ago, delaneytomlinson said: @Totalfootballfan Have you gone to league season unbeaten yet in the top 5 leagues in Europe? Iv'e nearly done it twice but lost both times with 10 games left, it's something I want to achieve along with doing the quadruple, Super cup/league cup/league and Champions League which I have a chance to do currently. Edit: Won three trophies, lost in the CL final for the third year in a row , second year in a row losing on penalties-_- Mate, I haven't had a really long term save to build a monstrous team and achieve that yet 2 hours ago, Sezer1905 said: @Totalfootballfan hi tff, I playy very good this cerber tactic in the league, but in the champions league, I can't play good against big teams? Do you have any suggestions for this situation? Hey mate, Let's say you play in some small European league when the best team in the league is just about 120CA and when you play in Champions League you play vs 160CA - 170CA teams, of course, in this case your result in Champions League against such teams which is much stronger than your team will worse than against teams in your league 1 hour ago, Simonmeds said: How would your starting eleven with Manchester United look like? Hi, I would line up Man Utd this way: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusho79bv Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Tweaked FIGHTER into a 4-1-2-3 and went in holiday for the 1st season with Arsenal, really good result for holiday mode (most goals scored and 3rd defence in the league) : 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonmeds Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 24 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: Mate, I haven't had a really long term save to build a monstrous team and achieve that yet Hey mate, Let's say you play in some small European league when the best team in the league is just about 120CA and when you play in Champions League you play vs 160CA - 170CA teams, of course, in this case your result in Champions League against such teams which is much stronger than your team will worse than against teams in your league Hi, I would line up Man Utd this way: No Maguire or Lindelof? :O Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Simonmeds said: No Maguire or Lindelof? :O I find Maguire is bit slow and Tuanzebe is better than Lindelof Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sezer1905 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Totalfootballfan said: Hey mate, Let's say you play in some small European league when the best team in the league is just about 120CA and when you play in Champions League you play vs 160CA - 170CA teams, of course, in this case your result in Champions League against such teams which is much stronger than your team will worse than against teams in your league Well, do you have any tactical suggestions about this situation? Can we resist if we follow the opposition instructions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProLowe Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Great Work TFF. First season after i took over. Leicester had a average squad. Used Cerber 3 the whole time. Winning PL with 85 points, is not common, but still impressive results. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalhua Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 In which roles should I invest first? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 ******** A NEW TACTIC HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE OP ANNIHILATOR V1 ******** 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, kalhua said: In which roles should I invest first? STC / ML / MR are the most important positions for the tactics, they score the most goals and produce the most assistance in the tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAECK Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 ANNIHILATOR V1 better than cerber v3? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerfu Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I don't know why cerber v3 doesn't work for me at 20.4 patch. maybe annihilator v1 works for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, MAECK said: ANNIHILATOR V1 better than cerber v3? Yes, I find Annihilator V1 is slight better than Cerber V3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzahy Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 hey tff, will the training will be the same as cerber tactic? thanks mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, tzahy said: hey tff, will the training will be the same as cerber tactic? thanks mate Hey mate, If you ask about Individual Focus Training then I updated it for all the tactics Bump 21 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: ******** A NEW TACTIC HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE OP ANNIHILATOR V1 ******** 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAECK Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 do you update us FILTERS or you can use it for the new tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, MAECK said: do you update us FILTERS or you can use it for the new tactics The filters are fine, you can use them with the new tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAECK Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 AMCR must be left foot and AMCR should be right foot or Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, MAECK said: AMCR must be left foot and AMCR should be right foot or I don't find it's very import but if you can choose then I suggest AMCL(left foot) and AMCR(right foot) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinobremnato1 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) @Totalfootballfan Do the attacking midfielders both have to be the more attack minded ones in the filters. Or can we retrain CM's, Also retrainng the Cerber V3 CM's for the DLP role if you get me. Or which type of players would we need for each of the midfield roles mate? Thanks for all your hard work, i never thought Cerber V3 could have been improved on lol! Good job my man! Edited March 19, 2020 by martinobremnato1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 19 minutes ago, martinobremnato1 said: @Totalfootballfan Do the attacking midfielders both have to be the more attack minded ones in the filters. Or can we retrain CM's, Also retrainng the Cerber V3 CM's for the DLP role if you get me. Or which type of players would we need for each of the midfield roles mate? Thanks for all your ahad work, i never thought Cerber V3 could have been improved on lol! Good job my man! Hey mate, For the AMCL/AMCR positions you need such players as Kevin De Bruyne, David Silva, Georginio Wijnaldum, Paul Pogba… also such players as Roberto Firmino, Luis Suárez and Paulo Dybala would work fine too For the DM position you need such players as Arturo Vidal, Sergio Busquets, Jordan Henderson, Fabinho, Ilkay Gündogan and Rodri 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Ttf has the tactic been added for testing on fm-arena? Really curious if it would beat cerber. Another thing: if you are lacking in AMC players, is it more likely to retrain an MC than an ST into to AMC position? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manidaro7 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 @Totalfootballfan ANNIHILATOR V1 to use instead of cerber v3 and in combo with fury v1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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