Jdigits Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Really enjoying this tactic. The best so far 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvingoh Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Hi TFF, If I had a winger: Left foot: Very strong Right Foot: reasonable Should he play LW or RW ? Thx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthomac1 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Mr. TFF what are the individual training focuses for ZEUS V1 because I unintentionally deleted my file T__T Thx in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyPunch Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Never feeling so confident playing an away game in FM20. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 hour ago, kelvingoh said: Hi TFF, If I had a winger: Left foot: Very strong Right Foot: reasonable Should he play LW or RW ? Thx Hi, With such preferred foot rating I would use him at MR position. 1 hour ago, earthomac1 said: Mr. TFF what are the individual training focuses for ZEUS V1 because I unintentionally deleted my file T__T Thx in advance Hi, It's the same as for the Raptor and the only difference is "Inverted Wing-Back" ( Support ) Individual Training Focus for DL/DR position instead of "Wing-Back" ( Support ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
g300gg Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 are the left and right wingers to be set to inverted wingers or wide midfielders? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, g300gg said: are the left and right wingers to be set to inverted wingers or wide midfielders? Mate, I'm nut sure that I clearly understand what you asking for but if you ask about preferred foot then I suggest using this for ML/MR positions ML : Right Foot – Very Strong MR : Left Foot - Very Strong/Strong/Fairly Strong 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
g300gg Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 The ML/MR roles are they to be set to wide midfielders or inverted wingers . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocogumbo Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, g300gg said: The ML/MR roles are they to be set to wide midfielders or inverted wingers . If you read the OP, they're WM in the tactic but for their individual training focus, should be set as IW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
g300gg Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, cocogumbo said: If you read the OP, they're WM in the tactic but for their individual training focus, should be set as IW. Thanks I did read it just got a bit confused when reading throught posts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdigits Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Biggest issue is the amount of CCC's and goals that it gives up. Need to find a way to be a bit tighter at the back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthomac1 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Totalfootballfan said: Hi, With such preferred foot rating I would use him at MR position. Hi, It's the same as for the Raptor and the only difference is "Inverted Wing-Back" ( Support ) Individual Training Focus for DL/DR position instead of "Wing-Back" ( Support ) Thx a lot for replying Mr. TFF XD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebuuu Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) Started my 2nd season (used Zeus before) and it was a great beginning. Won the german Supercup in penalties vs Bayern. 5:0 german cup, 3:0, 3:0, 6:0 Bundesliga, 2:0 CL, 3:1 Bundesliga... ..then....0:1 vs Köln@Bundesliga..11 (!) 1on1, CCC....18 shots in target, Köln 0 CCC, 3 shots in target...GG Ty Match Engine. Whatever...awesome start with Raptor V1. Edited January 5, 2020 by Nebuuu 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuper Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Great work TFF top tactic, by far the best i tried Using Raptor, played whole season without Holiday and instant results, general training team talks and press Ass Man. Played without reputation and licences 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 35 minutes ago, Cuper said: Great work TFF top tactic, by far the best i tried Using Raptor, played whole season without Holiday and instant results, general training team talks and press Ass Man. Played without reputation and licences wow! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebuuu Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Okay...after this awesome 2nd season-start and very unlucky 0:1 loss (11 CCC, 18-3 shots on target) with Hertha BSC in the Bundesliga... ez 5:0 win@Bundesliga and 2nd match@Champions League, 4:0 vs Monaco. Awesome. I wanna play FM2020 but have to cook and Liverpool is playing soon. A nice evening for all of you and a great start into the coming week. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 i think this game, in ways, acts opposite. example, i tested this Raptor tactic, very good and solid i must say...but i found it struggled against teams that play 5 defenders or 2dms...so i tried tweaks against it, i though spreading the width would be a positive change, it made it even weaker, so i put it all the way to narrow and WOLLAH! smashing teams that play 5 at the back or with 2 dms PS, i have won EVERY game so far with this tweak against 5 at the back or with 2 dms...i have yet tried it against teams that don't play 5 at the back or with 2 dms Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matias9102 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said: i think this game, in ways, acts opposite. example, i tested this Raptor tactic, very good and solid i must say...but i found it struggled against teams that play 5 defenders or 2dms...so i tried tweaks against it, i though spreading the width would be a positive change, it made it even weaker, so i put it all the way to narrow and WOLLAH! smashing teams that play 5 at the back or with 2 dms PS, i have won EVERY game so far with this tweak against 5 at the back or with 2 dms...i have yet tried it against teams that don't play 5 at the back or with 2 dms can you post your tweak? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said: i think this game, in ways, acts opposite. example, i tested this Raptor tactic, very good and solid i must say...but i found it struggled against teams that play 5 defenders or 2dms...so i tried tweaks against it, i though spreading the width would be a positive change, it made it even weaker, so i put it all the way to narrow and WOLLAH! smashing teams that play 5 at the back or with 2 dms PS, i have won EVERY game so far with this tweak against 5 at the back or with 2 dms...i have yet tried it against teams that don't play 5 at the back or with 2 dms I can say that I've tried different Width setting including the maximum "Width" // minimum "Width" and the current "Width" setting gave me the best result but of course, I might be wrong and I'd say that "Width" settings is a very tricky area so it's hard to be 100% in something when it comes to this area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, matias9102 said: can you post your tweak? i literally only changed the attacking width to "narrow" and i'm using "get stuck in" as i just need that to give me a peace lol. i noticed PIs has tackle harder so don't know if "get stuck in" makes a difference. but those are the only thing i've changed. i ONLY use narrow against teams that play 5 at the back or with 2 dms 3 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: I can say that I've tried different Width setting including the maximum "Width" // minimum "Width" and the current "Width" setting gave me the best result but of course, I might be wrong and I'd say that "Width" settings is a very tricky area so it's hard to be 100% in something when it comes to this area. i think it depends what league, what team...etc. i think in the prem, 5 at the back is used a lot whereas in another league it may not. So you're right leaving the attacking width where it is and let people tweak it depending on their situation...like i said, i only use it against team that play 5 at the back, the tactic does perfectly fine against other teams so i actually haven't tried it. i like the fact i have two different width styles, should in theory make it more complicated for the AI Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 before anything. THIS is TFF tactic of course. this is just my take on how to make it the most effective. so before anyone calls the tactic weak or anything, maybe try other things because this tactic is DEFO not weak this is my squad. no signings, just loan deals. i loaned in Malcuit, Caicedo and Isak i have good relationships everywhere on the field (for some reason it doesn't show my CMs have a good relationship, maybe because they're both unavailable) but i tip to get good relationships VERY quickly is mentoring groups. Mentor all your CBs together. Mentor all your CMs together. Mentor all your left sided players together. Same for right side. Lastly STs i also do my own training My results so far... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaneytomlinson Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 @Totalfootballfan You got a good 4-2-3-1 tactic? Iv'e been using it for 7 seasons, iv'e won 12 trophies but only one Champions League which to me is very poor, also any advice on away games against the big teams? I struggle to get wins away from home especially vs Arsenal, Liverpool and Man City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_huo Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Tried Raptor in Serie A TIM - very good outcome so far by using Internazionale. Will continue with the rest of season. PS: when playing away against strong team, minor tweaking is required especially for tatic with strong AM. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 4 hours ago, delaneytomlinson said: @Totalfootballfan You got a good 4-2-3-1 tactic? Iv'e been using it for 7 seasons, iv'e won 12 trophies but only one Champions League which to me is very poor, also any advice on away games against the big teams? I struggle to get wins away from home especially vs Arsenal, Liverpool and Man City. Hi, No, mate... I haven't managed to get any efficient enough to share from 4-2-3-1 formation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 ********** Guys, I've updated the Time Wasting tactic to V2. It's become more efficient when you need to "kill" the game and protect your lead. ********** 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentheposh Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Raptor V1 takes Wealdstone through to League One at the first time of asking. That's 3 consecutive promotions. Also beat West Ham in the cup and made a million quid from the game. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busog-Lusog Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 15 hours ago, RDF Tactics said: before anything. THIS is TFF tactic of course. this is just my take on how to make it the most effective. so before anyone calls the tactic weak or anything, maybe try other things because this tactic is DEFO not weak this is my squad. no signings, just loan deals. i loaned in Malcuit, Caicedo and Isak i have good relationships everywhere on the field (for some reason it doesn't show my CMs have a good relationship, maybe because they're both unavailable) but i tip to get good relationships VERY quickly is mentoring groups. Mentor all your CBs together. Mentor all your CMs together. Mentor all your left sided players together. Same for right side. Lastly STs i also do my own training My results so far... What are your thought of this, TFF? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 ********** Guys, I've added 3 new tactics to the OP. Raptor V1 and Reaver V1 show are very similar efficiency so it's hard to tell for which of them is better. Predator V1 and Stalker V1 are less Efficient that Raptor V1 and Reaver V1 but I see that there are many requests for such formation so I decided to share them. REAVER V1 PREDATOR V1 STALKER V1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, Ninodebest said: What are your thought of this, TFF? Mate, few posts above I already said what I think about it… as I said for me the current width setting gives the best result but I might be wrong because the Width setting is very tricky area and it's hard to be for 100% about it so I think it's worth trying what RDF Tactics suggested and it really might improve your results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinobremnato1 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 @Totalfootballfan Hey man, which midfielder would you put in the DLP role? Would you use the more creative playeer you have compared to the left sided CM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackgawthorp Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Struggling to tell the difference between raptor & reaver? which is better? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, martinobremnato1 said: @Totalfootballfan Hey man, which midfielder would you put in the DLP role? Would you use the more creative playeer you have compared to the left sided CM. Hey mate, I'd say they both do very similar job on the pitch so they must have very similar attributes to do it well. More hints about the attributes for them can be found at the OP. 5 minutes ago, jackgawthorp said: Struggling to tell the difference between raptor & reaver? which is better? the only difference between them is WMs is on (Support) in Reaver and WMs is on (Attacks) in Raptor... both tactics shows very similar results and it's hard for me to tell which of them is better... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmaster5000 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 29 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: ********** Guys, I've added 3 new tactics to the OP. Raptor V1 and Reaver V1 show are very similar efficiency so it's hard to tell for which of them is better. Predator V1 and Stalker V1 are less Efficient that Raptor V1 and Reaver V1 but I see that there are many requests for such formation so I decided to share them. REAVER V1 PREDATOR V1 STALKER V1 Does Predator score more and is better vs weaker teams than raptor or not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busog-Lusog Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 39 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: Mate, few posts above I already said what I think about it… as I said for me the current width setting gives the best result but I might be wrong because the Width setting is very tricky area and it's hard to be for 100% about it so I think it's worth trying what RDF Tactics suggested and it really might improve your results. Missed that one. Sorry, and thanks mate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 28 minutes ago, maxmaster5000 said: Does Predator score more and is better vs weaker teams than raptor or not? Raptor scores the most... Raptor and Reaver are more efficient than Predator and Stalker but if you like to play with AML/AMR or if you like to play with 4-2-3-1 formation then with top teams you'll be doing very well with Stalker and Predator, also with Stalker and Predator you will be overachieving with any team but less than with Raptor and Reaver Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmaster5000 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 27 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: Raptor scores the most... Raptor and Reaver are more efficient than Predator and Stalker but if you like to play with AML/AMR or if you like to play with 4-2-3-1 formation then with top teams you'll be doing very well with Stalker and Predator, also with Stalker and Predator you will be overachieving with any team but less than with Raptor and Reaver ok Thank you mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichS24 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 i love the Raptor tactic. switched to it after christmas, and won the league. awesome 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 Guys, I've uploaded slightly different filters for ( Raptor & Reaver ) and ( Predator & Stalker ) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebuuu Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 vor 18 Stunden schrieb RDF Tactics: i have good relationships everywhere on the field (for some reason it doesn't show my CMs have a good relationship, maybe because they're both unavailable) but i tip to get good relationships VERY quickly is mentoring groups. Mentor all your CBs together. Mentor all your CMs together. Mentor all your left sided players together. Same for right side. Lastly STs Thanks for the Tip bro. I`ve never used that. btw your Assymetric Targetman-Tactic was great. But TFF is...you know...TFF ^^ Your passion for the Football Manager is awesome. Ty for helping others, like me. ♥ #nohomo Have a nice evening@all. My 2nd Season so far, so good. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pw75 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Just a quick update to say that Raptor for me is the closest I have come on FM20 to Gladiator that you had for FM19 TFF results wise. It has given me a bit more love for FM20 as the tactic is great and I am having some very good results overall (9 games into the Championship and 1st with Derby County after finishing 15th season before). Other thing I would say is that this tactic, unlike all others I tried, actually gets the strikers scoring! Thanks TFF. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripoligate4 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 what the point of upload the same formation with 2 different roles if 1 of those is more power ?xD isnt even difference at formation at all :/ Any chance of 451 (433WIDE ) ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, tripoligate4 said: what the point of upload the same formation with 2 different roles if 1 of those is more power ?xD isnt even difference at formation at all :/ Any chance of 451 (433WIDE ) ? the point is I'm not sure which of them is more powerful and that's why I shared them both Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petraxil Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I am glad and really happy to see you back ! Have a Healthy and a Happy Year for you and your Family . I will test them right now in Lens hehehehe 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) i have tweak to your Stalker tactic...i've made it a 4411.. cool if i post? Edited January 6, 2020 by RDF Tactics 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said: i have tweak to your Stalker tactic...i've made it a 4411.. cool if i post? Sure, mate... It looks good... feel free to post it... there's no need in asking about it 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) STALKING V1...a tweak of TFFs STALKER V1 GOT A VERY HIGH 107pts, WHILST WINNING EVERY CUP! NO SIGNINGS STALKING V1 Tweaked by RDF (TFF).fmf STALKING V1 Tweakedaway by RDF (TFF).fmf (away version only used against top 6 away, only tweak is shorter passing) Follow instructions from OP, also tips from my post a few posts back i felt tactic could've performed better if i had a fast IW on the right (might make no sense as Mata was actually my highest performer, very technical player so scored a few long shots and free kicks and assists from set pieces) and a better CM than Scott McTominay all matches after my 15th match was instant results. Edited January 6, 2020 by RDF Tactics 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said: STALKING V1...a tweak of TFFs STALKER V1 GOT A VERY HIGH 107pts, WHILST WINNING EVERY CUP! NO SIGNINGS the results look very good... I think the tactic deserves own thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor76 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 25 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said: STALKING V1...a tweak of TFFs STALKER V1 GOT A VERY HIGH 107pts, WHILST WINNING EVERY CUP! NO SIGNINGS STALKING V1 Tweaked by RDF (TFF).fmf 45.94 kB · 1 download STALKING V1 Tweakedaway by RDF (TFF).fmf (away version only used against top 6 away, only tweak is shorter passing) Follow instructions from OP, also tips from my post a few posts back i felt tactic could've performed better if i had a fast IW on the right (might make no sense as Mata was actually my highest performer, very technical player so scored a few long shots and free kicks and assists from set pieces) and a better CM than Scott McTominay all matches after my 15th match was instant results. Hi Rdf, I saw two kind oh training in your pictures. Are they for alternative weeks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RDF Tactics Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, tractor76 said: Hi Rdf, I saw two kind oh training in your pictures. Are they for alternative weeks? one is for the week with 1 match day. other is for 2 match days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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