Staf9 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 thanks Smurf. i generally dont play 3D matches but was thinking of getting a laptop with a dedicated graphics card instead of integrated. Current laptop is a couple of years old and has 8gb ram and an i5 processor but it only runs at 1.7ghz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staf9 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 what about this one? https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/80RU00EGUK-Lenovo-Ideapad-700_2207197.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbymonk Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 5 hours ago, Smurf said: Just to add to that - try stay away from processors that have a U after them. Any particular reason for this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Because U processors are not as good as processors with HQ. U stands for Ultra low voltage - and they are designed to "underclock" so that they use less power - which is at the expense of performance. Where a processor with HQ - stands for High Performance Graphics, Quad Core. Which are designed to be high performance, and it's a quad core processor. HQ is the most common you'll see on budget computers under £1000 - and you can go up the way in the terms of letters: H - high performance HK - high performance unlocked T - Optimised K - Unlocked. U processors are lower end Full list here - to wet your beak on https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/processor-numbers.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 15 hours ago, Staf9 said: what about this one? https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/80RU00EGUK-Lenovo-Ideapad-700_2207197.html This one is the same price and slightly better processor, slightly better graphics card (imo) https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/ZX553VD-DM969T-ASUS-Gaming-ZX553VD-DM969T_2246201.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staf9 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 47 minutes ago, Smurf said: This one is the same price and slightly better processor, slightly better graphics card (imo) https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/ZX553VD-DM969T-ASUS-Gaming-ZX553VD-DM969T_2246201.html thanks for that. felt the Lenovo having 12GB of ram was a plus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
L-Wiz Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Hi there @Smurf, any help you could offer would be greatly appreciated. i recently bought a new ipad with kind of the sole purpose to play FM on, knowing that the FMT is slightly watered down from the full fat game. However, the fact that you can only load 3 playable leagues really takes away the joy for me as i like to run quite a few leagues in different countries to really feel immersed in the game world. The other reason is due to limited time on my hands, i mainly will only be able to play the game to and from work on the train, hence looking at a light and smaller sized device to play on. what would you recommend as a fairly compact and light sized laptop but for the sole purpose of running a fast FM game. i'm not over fussed about watching in 3D so happy to compromise on graphic card. Given that this will simply be bought for FM then as always looking at best price too. any thoughts? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 31 minutes ago, Staf9 said: thanks for that. felt the Lenovo having 12GB of ram was a plus For FM it wouldn't make that much of a difference. Money better spent on better processor and better graphics card. RAM is relatively cheap and easy to update - you won't be able to update processor and graphics card. So best to get more RAM if you need it. But you won't. 14 minutes ago, L-Wiz said: Hi there @Smurf, any help you could offer would be greatly appreciated. i recently bought a new ipad with kind of the sole purpose to play FM on, knowing that the FMT is slightly watered down from the full fat game. However, the fact that you can only load 3 playable leagues really takes away the joy for me as i like to run quite a few leagues in different countries to really feel immersed in the game world. The other reason is due to limited time on my hands, i mainly will only be able to play the game to and from work on the train, hence looking at a light and smaller sized device to play on. what would you recommend as a fairly compact and light sized laptop but for the sole purpose of running a fast FM game. i'm not over fussed about watching in 3D so happy to compromise on graphic card. Given that this will simply be bought for FM then as always looking at best price too. any thoughts? thanks I'm afraid that lightweight and long battery life do not come cheap On first glance this is stonking good value for money considering what you want to do! https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/AERO14WV7-CF4-GIGABYTE-AERO-14W-V7-CF4_2168199.html On second glance - it's expensive. If you want to go just lightweight - and not worried on battery life (when not plugged in) https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-14A112-090-MSI-GS40-6QE(Phantom)-090UK_1945621.html If you want a long battery life *when not plugged in* - but not worried on weight https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.G66EK.004-Acer-Aspire-V15-in-Black_2095447.html Now that's just going by what 1 website has in stock - if I look elsewhere - NAMELY PC specialist Chassis & DisplayUltraNote: 15.6" Matte Full HD IPS LED Backlit Widescreen (1920x1080)Processor (CPU)Intel® Core™ i5 Quad Core Processor 7300HQ (2.5GHz, 3.5GHz Turbo)Memory (RAM)8GB Corsair 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (1 x 8GB)Graphics CardINTEL® HD GRAPHICS 620 - 1.7GB Max DDR4 Video RAM - DirectX® 12M.2 SSD Drive512GB WD Black™ M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 2050MB/s R | 800MB/s W)BatteryUltraNote IV Series 44WH Lithium Ion BatteryPrice £788.00 including VAT and deliveryUnique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/ultranoteiv-15/Zec!Sn0vCk/ Unsure of what final weight would be - but you could check with them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
L-Wiz Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, Smurf said: For FM it wouldn't make that much of a difference. Money better spent on better processor and better graphics card. RAM is relatively cheap and easy to update - you won't be able to update processor and graphics card. So best to get more RAM if you need it. But you won't. I'm afraid that lightweight and long battery life do not come cheap On first glance this is stonking good value for money considering what you want to do! https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/AERO14WV7-CF4-GIGABYTE-AERO-14W-V7-CF4_2168199.html On second glance - it's expensive. If you want to go just lightweight - and not worried on battery life (when not plugged in) https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-14A112-090-MSI-GS40-6QE(Phantom)-090UK_1945621.html If you want a long battery life *when not plugged in* - but not worried on weight https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.G66EK.004-Acer-Aspire-V15-in-Black_2095447.html Now that's just going by what 1 website has in stock - if I look elsewhere - NAMELY PC specialist Chassis & DisplayUltraNote: 15.6" Matte Full HD IPS LED Backlit Widescreen (1920x1080)Processor (CPU)Intel® Core™ i5 Quad Core Processor 7300HQ (2.5GHz, 3.5GHz Turbo)Memory (RAM)8GB Corsair 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (1 x 8GB)Graphics CardINTEL® HD GRAPHICS 620 - 1.7GB Max DDR4 Video RAM - DirectX® 12M.2 SSD Drive512GB WD Black™ M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 2050MB/s R | 800MB/s W)BatteryUltraNote IV Series 44WH Lithium Ion BatteryPrice £788.00 including VAT and deliveryUnique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/ultranoteiv-15/Zec!Sn0vCk/ Unsure of what final weight would be - but you could check with them. Thanks buddy, thats really helpful. will have a think and look around. cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlcole Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Hey guys can anyone tell me if this will be any good for fm? I normally play 2d but would maybe be interested in 3D depending on graphics (no idea if this laptop is good graphics or not) also wont require loss of leagues maybe Spain Italy england http://www.very.co.uk/acer-aspire-5-intel-core-i7-8gb-ram-2tb-hard-drive-156-inch-full-hd-laptop-blackgrey-with-optional-microsoft-office-365-home/1600202179.prd?_requestid=329660&Ntt=lv9l9#BVRRContainer thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 10 hours ago, karlcole said: Hey guys can anyone tell me if this will be any good for fm? I normally play 2d but would maybe be interested in 3D depending on graphics (no idea if this laptop is good graphics or not) also wont require loss of leagues maybe Spain Italy england http://www.very.co.uk/acer-aspire-5-intel-core-i7-8gb-ram-2tb-hard-drive-156-inch-full-hd-laptop-blackgrey-with-optional-microsoft-office-365-home/1600202179.prd?_requestid=329660&Ntt=lv9l9#BVRRContainer thanks Very difficult to find any laptops worthy for Football Manager. This would be excellent https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/ZX553VD-DM969T-ASUS-Gaming-ZX553VD-DM969T_2246201.html Same price - slightly lower spec https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/80RU00EGUK-Lenovo-Ideapad-700_2207197.html Slightly lower spec again -but still excellent for FM https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.G66EK.004-Acer-Aspire-V15-in-Black_2095447.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantorras77 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Great Thread! I currently am running Dual-Cpu's (Xeon x5570's) with 4 cores and 8 threads. In the game on the "Game Status" screen under Number of Processors it say's 16 Processors. So i'm assuming FM17 is recognizing both my cpu's. Now I love to play my FM with the max player database (300,00+ players) and I would love to improve the performace. So am I correct in saying that upgrading from 4 core processors to 6 core processors should easily improve my FM's processing speed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtaddy Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Hello again... Its looking like ive had a few outgoings lately any laptops at a max budget £400 that will play like a large database and 10 leagues did on fm17 play 3D Also know curry are having deals on atm Thanks Again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbokav1971 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Hi @Smurfand anyone else in the know... I've been keeping an eye on this thread to pick up some tips so as to not make similar mistakes that I made last time. I think I want an i7 processor, (better than an i5), and I also want HQ rather than anything else. I generally play a single very long-term save, but previously have limited myself to a small number of leagues and feel that with a proper laptop I would like to expand this. I like to watch highlights on 3d. I've had a look and come up with this one. https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/ZX553VD-DM969T-ASUS-Gaming-ZX553VD-DM969T_2246201.html Something that has caught my eye is that it mentions, (I think), that it has been upgraded to 8GB RAM, (suggesting that it wasn't originally). Is this going to cause me a problem later on down the line? Something else that I noticed is that the battery life is only listed as 3-4 hours, (up to 4 hours with battery management). This seems low to me but is it just a case of money talks with regards to battery life? Something else I have seen mentioned by others elsewhere is the benefit of a SSD (solid state drive) over a Hard Drive and I notice this doesn't have a SSD. I appreciate that I can't have everything I want for the money I am willing to pay, but I'm not sure what is worth trading and what is a must. If you had asked me a few months how much I was willing to pay I would have probably said £600, but I don't think I can get what I want for that so would be willing to go to £800. Any advice would be appreciated. [Edit] You see this is the sort of thing I mean. https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.G66EK.004-Acer-Aspire-V15-in-Black_2095447.html This laptop, (linked by @Smurfabove) is cheaper, and it has a SSD. My limited understanding is that there are fewer longer-term reliability issues with a SSD over a HDD, but is it that big a deal? The reason this 2nd laptop is cheaper is because of the downgrade in processor, (i5-6300HQ compared to i7-7700HQ), but that while the processor is poorer, the battery life is better, (I'm guessing because the processor is demanding less from it), with 7-8 hours life compared to 3-4 hours previously. It seems that it's a trade-off between real top end, (at least within this price range), processor speed and a little more of everything else. I'm now thinking that the £650 model might actually suit my purposes better than the £780 model, AND be £130 cheaper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 15 hours ago, mantorras77 said: Great Thread! I currently am running Dual-Cpu's (Xeon x5570's) with 4 cores and 8 threads. In the game on the "Game Status" screen under Number of Processors it say's 16 Processors. So i'm assuming FM17 is recognizing both my cpu's. Now I love to play my FM with the max player database (300,00+ players) and I would love to improve the performace. So am I correct in saying that upgrading from 4 core processors to 6 core processors should easily improve my FM's processing speed? That's the theory for sure. The faster the processor, the more cores/threads - the faster the game will be. To be clear - all computers can load all leagues/divisions and all the database etc. - it's just the speed that the game progresses suffers the weaker the specs of the computer get. 15 hours ago, jtaddy said: Hello again... Its looking like ive had a few outgoings lately any laptops at a max budget £400 that will play like a large database and 10 leagues did on fm17 play 3D Also know curry are having deals on atm Thanks Again I wouldn't be comfortable offering you a suggestion based on £400 it's just too low to get what you want - namely a dedicated graphics card for the 3D matches. I did see this one on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-Precision-M3510-15-6-Business-Laptop-i7-6820HQ-Quad-Core-32GB-500GB-HD/302478803662 I wouldn't normally suggest using eBay - usually if it's too good to be true it is. You'd be much better off saving a bit more and getting something like this https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J562-1673-MSI-GL62-7QF-1673UK_2066567.html I know it's 200 quid over your original budget - but I wouldn't buy from eBay - I looked through about 20 websites and the way they filter products is very confusing (even for me ) 3 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said: Hi @Smurfand anyone else in the know... I've been keeping an eye on this thread to pick up some tips so as to not make similar mistakes that I made last time. I think I want an i7 processor, (better than an i5), and I also want HG rather than anything else. I generally play a single very long-term save, but previously have limited myself to a small number of leagues and feel that with a proper laptop I would like to expand this. I like to watch highlights on 3d. I've had a look and come up with this one. https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/ZX553VD-DM969T-ASUS-Gaming-ZX553VD-DM969T_2246201.html Something that has caught my eye is that it mentions, (I think), that it has been upgraded to 8GB RAM, (suggesting that it wasn't originally). Is this going to cause me a problem later on down the line? Something else that I noticed is that the battery life is only listed as 3-4 hours, (up to 4 hours with battery management). This seems low to me but is it just a case of money talks with regards to battery life? Something else I have seen mentioned by others elsewhere is the benefit of a SSD (solid state drive) over a Hard Drive and I notice this doesn't have a SSD. I appreciate that I can't have everything I want for the money I am willing to pay, but I'm not sure what is worth trading and what is a must. If you had asked me a few months how much I was willing to pay I would have probably said £600, but I don't think I can get what I want for that so would be willing to go to £800. Any advice would be appreciated. Firstly, just because it's an i7 it doesn't mean it's better than an i5. An i5-8600K would be amazingly better than a i7-5500U But generally - you're absolutely right. It's pretty good laptop - Upgraded to 8gb RAM - that maybe so - and thankfully it is 8GB - I woudln't recommend anything less than 8gb RAM. There's no problem here SSD - it's not overly important for FM - but who knows how FM 2023 will look and feel and perhaps having an SSD will be of benefit then. However and SSD can signifcantly improve a computer performance overall. Battery life - if you're not using it as a desktop replacement (plugged in all the time) then it will be an issue. Even laptops that state 8 hours battery life and 12 hours on power management - well with FM those numbers mean nothing, FM is a processor monster and battery will be used up quickly with a larger battery (8 hours) and even quicker with a 4 hour battery life. If you're plugged in most of the time, then you're fine. Here's one for £100 extra - battery life is 11 hours - the processor is slighty down from the one you have picked https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/1GP04EAABU-HP-OMEN-17-w206na_2076999.html Now this one is £30 dearer - and it's a 15 inch screen https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NH.Q0SEK.002-Acer-Predator-15-G9-592_2175394.html Honestly - I'm struggling to find anything better than what you have found - and it's not that mine are better or worse - it's just a longer battery life. If that's important for you - it only means when not plugged in. I'd go for the one you have elected - it's mighty fine - and you can always swap out the hard drive for a SSD later on down the road - when you have bit more money available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firehouse Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 @Smurf posted this one earlier in the discussion so I took it. I don't know how it runs FM yet, but it runs Battlefront 2 easily, and GTA 5 on normal/high settings on 120fps so in general I am very happy about the laptop. Would recommend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtaddy Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 http://www.argos.co.uk/product/6783008 this any good but yes looks like MSI is the best one to go for for my circumstances Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 I wouldn't recommend that laptop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firehouse Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Oh yeah, and I forgot to put the link. https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-179586-1007-MSI-GL72-7QF-1007UK_2067944.html The battery isn't great, but I didn't need it to be great, but otherwise, it's been a great buy so far, even though I had to stretch my budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharp111 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Hi I'm looking for a laptop for fm18. I want to have multiple leauges I would also like to have 3D match engine but I'm not to bothered about it. I have seen one with amd a4-9120 dual core processor 2.2 ghz speed 8gb ram and amd Radeon r3 graphics card. Would that be ok? If not could you please give me some recommendations. i would like to spend less than 500 but could stretch to 600. I am not looking to play any other games. Just fm thanks in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 This is a fantastic laptop - but the hard drive is a bit on the small size https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J562-1673-MSI-GL62-7QF-1673UK_2066567.html You could get a larger hard drive at another date - or get external storage etc. However, it's way better than the one you posted @Sharp111 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m@rk Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Smurf said: This is a fantastic laptop - but the hard drive is a bit on the small size https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J562-1673-MSI-GL62-7QF-1673UK_2066567.html You could get a larger hard drive at another date - or get external storage etc. However, it's way better than the one you posted @Sharp111 I bought this one a few months back (- with the 1TB drive) compared to my old one it is fantastic, i run all leagues in England, Spain, Scotland, Italy, Germany, Holland, Belgium. Denmark, France, Portugal with a medium database (with a few countries players loaded as well) and it goes fairly quick, I don't play long sessions maybe an hour or 2 at a time but I have completed 3 seasons quicker than the time i had completed 10 before buying it. 3d matches look really good in full detail. The only minor complaint is the heat from the fans but since buying a cooler tray its now fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I'd always recommend a cooling tray - they're fantastic as it helps to stop dust building up in the fans. Which, in a laptop, can be difficult to get at to clean. Often people leave a laptop on a bed, floor, or even a table, and that can suck in dust and clog the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
71834 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 @Smurf what do you think of this? http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/dell-inspiron-15-5000-15-6-gaming-laptop-black-10164853-pdt.html Haven't checked around much to see if it could be had for cheaper but the specs seem very similar to this laptop you recommended recently https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/GL553VE-DM107T-ASUS-ROG-Strix-GL553VE-DM107T_2119183.html Don't know much about laptops so may be missing something obvious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Firstly - both laptops are insane! They're great! I'd opt for the Dell - simply because it has 11 hours battery life - which can only be a plus. Here's another at £999 - it's a 17 inch screen compared to the 2 you posted which are 15inch https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.Q0QEK.002-Acer-Predator-17-G9-792_1964567.html Admitedly it's a slightly older processor - but there's not much difference at all - so if you want a 17 inch screen I'd go for my one. But the Dell one is fantastic - in fairness - if 15 inch is ok for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staf9 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 if you only play the game using the commentary is it important to have a dedicated graphics card or would integrated be enough?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Integrated would be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staf9 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 24 minutes ago, Smurf said: Integrated would be fine. perfect, thanks https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/80V00042UK-Lenovo-IdeaPad-510S-13IKB_2072640.html would this be a decent option if your watching your budget Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 41 minutes ago, Staf9 said: perfect, thanks https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/80V00042UK-Lenovo-IdeaPad-510S-13IKB_2072640.html would this be a decent option if your watching your budget No - Here's the deal - and I should have mentioned it earlier, but I neglected. Most computers with an integrated graphics card (meaning it's built into the GPU) won't have a very powerful chip especially the lower end budget laptops. U processors would be awful for Football Manager in that they are designed to be underclocked, that is to run at a lower speed to save on power. This is the best laptop under 600 that would be good for FM. https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J562-1673-MSI-GL62-7QF-1673UK_2066567.html It does have a graphics card - but if you don't want 3D matches then don't have the option turned on. It would be way better than what you're looking at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staf9 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 11 minutes ago, Smurf said: No - Here's the deal - and I should have mentioned it earlier, but I neglected. Most computers with an integrated graphics card (meaning it's built into the GPU) won't have a very powerful chip especially the lower end budget laptops. U processors would be awful for Football Manager in that they are designed to be underclocked, that is to run at a lower speed to save on power. This is the best laptop under 600 that would be good for FM. https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J562-1673-MSI-GL62-7QF-1673UK_2066567.html It does have a graphics card - but if you don't want 3D matches then don't have the option turned on. It would be way better than what you're looking at. thanks for that. i'm trying too hard to find something that will run FM and is easy to use for work/study and on the train/bus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 @Staf9Forgot to mention that has a pretty smallish hard drive - best to get some external storage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlcole Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 6 hours ago, Smurf said: No - Here's the deal - and I should have mentioned it earlier, but I neglected. Most computers with an integrated graphics card (meaning it's built into the GPU) won't have a very powerful chip especially the lower end budget laptops. U processors would be awful for Football Manager in that they are designed to be underclocked, that is to run at a lower speed to save on power. This is the best laptop under 600 that would be good for FM. https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J562-1673-MSI-GL62-7QF-1673UK_2066567.html It does have a graphics card - but if you don't want 3D matches then don't have the option turned on. It would be way better than what you're looking at. Would this run 3D decent ? And if I was interested I. Just 2d would a i7 u be ok or not ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Yes it would play it easy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlcole Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Thanks mate. If I wanted purely 2d would this run faster than a week break i7? I’ve seen a similar priced laptop with 8gb and i7 so maybe interested in that and playing 2d thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I don't understand the question. Whether you play 2D or 3D has no bearing on fast the game runs. The processor will run the game day to day - and that's key for FM. Graphics card is key if you want 3D matches. Always go for the best processor,. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyzer Soze Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Hi @Smurf Any Hibryd laptop or windows tablet, that can run FM, that you would recommend? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Keyzer Soze said: Hi @Smurf Any Hibryd laptop or windows tablet, that can run FM, that you would recommend? Not really - most come with a "u" processor - which makes it difficult to recommend a laptop hybrid for football manager. Most run into the £1000's in price, and for that price you could get a much better laptop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samwilzrhcp Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Been reading this thread as I am in need of a new laptop, and FM is the only game I like to play. Obviously I don't want to be spending an arm and a leg on a laptop if all I am going to be doing is playing FM and the usual internet browsing. What I want to know is what effect does a processor with a U have compared to that of HQ? When playing FM I always only use no more than 6 nations. And I always turn graphic detail down. So what sort of specs would I be looking at considering I'm not flush with cash, and I'm not bothered about playing with a huge database? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I've mentioned it a few times already, on this page alone, and over the past. I'll go through it again. U processors are designed to conserve power, they're ultra low voltage (that's what U stands for) - this means generally that the processors are underclocked, in that they will operate at the lowest speed possible to conserve as much power as possible. In terms of HQ - it stands for High Quality Graphics, Quad Core. Quad Core will offer better performance than a Dual Core - and the High Quality Graphics, well that's just what it is, it means it can draw down on the processor for the graphics, or if you have a graphics card it will draw down from that. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/processor-numbers.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samwilzrhcp Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Sorry, I have read that, but what I would like to know is what noticible differences are there when playing FM? Say I play with 5 nations loaded, would it be 3 star performance speed with i5U but 5 star with i5HQ? Just an example. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough. Appreciate the advice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I wouldn't know - I'd have to buy all the laptops and test them equally. But i5U would be worse than i5HQ and so on. With 5 nations - I don't know what the difference would be. All I can go on is which processor is better. And if you can get a better laptop/processor for equal to or approx the same value, then why not go with the better hardware for similar price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samwilzrhcp Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Looks like your rec of the MSI 128gb SSD is the best option then. I was just weighing up whether there was a cheaper alternative knocking about somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ 01/02 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Hi, I am looking for a new computer with a budget at around 1200 quid. I'd like it to play fm well but also manage different games with higher graphics functioning. It can be a laptop or desktop whichever offers better value for money in terms of performance. I have little experience in this area so any help would be much appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveangel Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 On 10/7/2017 at 08:52, mantorras77 said: Great Thread! I currently am running Dual-Cpu's (Xeon x5570's) with 4 cores and 8 threads. In the game on the "Game Status" screen under Number of Processors it say's 16 Processors. So i'm assuming FM17 is recognizing both my cpu's. Now I love to play my FM with the max player database (300,00+ players) and I would love to improve the performace. So am I correct in saying that upgrading from 4 core processors to 6 core processors should easily improve my FM's processing speed? Definitely do not assume that, check out the performance benchmarking thread: It's a little disappointing, but does make things pretty clear for maximizing FM performance: choose a quad core processor with fastest possible clock speed. I7-7700k is probably still going to be at or near the top even after people start getting their Coffee Lake CPUs. No idea what changes FM 18 will bring but it's a bit optimistic to expect the game to suddenly be fully optimized for multicore CPUs (I do hope so though because I want a Ryzen CPU) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantorras77 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 9 hours ago, loveangel said: Definitely do not assume that, check out the performance benchmarking thread: It's a little disappointing, but does make things pretty clear for maximizing FM performance: choose a quad core processor with fastest possible clock speed. I7-7700k is probably still going to be at or near the top even after people start getting their Coffee Lake CPUs. No idea what changes FM 18 will bring but it's a bit optimistic to expect the game to suddenly be fully optimized for multicore CPUs (I do hope so though because I want a Ryzen CPU) Cool thanks bro! Will def check it out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 14 hours ago, champ 01/02 said: Hi, I am looking for a new computer with a budget at around 1200 quid. I'd like it to play fm well but also manage different games with higher graphics functioning. It can be a laptop or desktop whichever offers better value for money in terms of performance. I have little experience in this area so any help would be much appreciated. Do you have a screen - as if you buy a desktop you will need to have a separate screen - which if you've got 1200 could eat that budget slightly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1589 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Hi mate, i know MAC's aren't always ideal for gaming etc but it is something i want to purchase. the one i was looking it is The 27.5 inch Apple iMac with Retina 5K display - all-in-one - Core i5 3.4 GHz - 8 GB - 1 TB - LED 27" - 1 x Intel Core i5 (7th Gen) 3.4 GHz (3.8 GHz) (Quad-Core) , 8 GB (installed) / 32 GB (max) - DDR4 SDRAM , 1 x Hybrid Drive 1 TB - SATA , AMD Radeon Pro 570. Has anyone got one of these that they run FM off of and how does it perform ? Or if not do you think from what you see spec wise it would run FM fine with no issues ? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Why do you want to purchase a Mac? Have you got specific software that needs to run on the Mac? I completely understand if you do. But, if you don't, then buying a Mac is colossal waste of money. You can buy a much better Windows PC for much cheaper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1589 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 It's the wife that is wanting one really but i am purchasing it for her. She has been recommended by her work to get one and she can work more at home. So i was thinking of using this for FM too, i am not very tech savvy so was having a look on the apple store last night and was trying to compare the machines specs and FM requirements and thought that seemed like the best fit. What do you think ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Well, if it's work related and work are buying it... I'd be selecting the following options 27-inch iMac with Retina 5K display Item Price:£2,789.00 4.2GHz quad-core 7th-generation Intel Core i7 processor, Turbo Boost up to 4.5GHz 16GB 2400MHz DDR4 512GB SSD Radeon Pro 580 with 8GB video memory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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