hugofmdias Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Is this the best 4231 right now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 @mattw123 Any tactic with PSG will be more for Elite teams Home games or get a goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 @Sibbo HUB Test is a rough guide, and many tactics at the bottom of test will still have won leagues. Many tactics like with You tube (next post) Paris video have not even been tested. The latest 4231has tested higher on 1 run, will post this later. Latest 451 may be useful for away games 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 @hugofmdias Not seen vid yet. @Par1sdid post a little while ago, and very mc a 4231 user. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 ME23.1BEOWULFKnapBALTIG4231IFVOLP17ECCC.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibbo Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Nice one cheers @knap so on the test above I assume that CA160 / CA140 / CA120 represents the tactic in each of those leagues and you just add up the points to get the total for the HUB test? so for this 4231 tactic the HUB test total is 442pts which puts it as the 3rd best tactic on your HUB test right? if so that is decent and I will be trying this tactic out in my save this weekend for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel.camponovo Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 @Sibbo I believe that's how it works, and I've been relying on the top HUB test tactics as well, so excited to see a non-424 look pretty dominant (I know it looks like 424 is the meta for this match engine now I just like a classic 4231 more!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, Sibbo said: Nice one cheers @knap so on the test above I assume that CA160 / CA140 / CA120 represents the tactic in each of those leagues and you just add up the points to get the total for the HUB test? so for this 4231 tactic the HUB test total is 442pts which puts it as the 3rd best tactic on your HUB test right? if so that is decent and I will be trying this tactic out in my save this weekend for sure. Need 2nd & 3rd run to stabilize % and other stats. This is a result from one run, only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibbo Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 @daniel.camponovoYeah I am the same, much prefer 4231 over a 424 because 4231 is more realistic in the real world so there are are way more options in terms of players available to fit that system. I like a 451 also so pretty stoked to see the last 451 posted rack up 110 points and zero losses and now this 4231 which is looking like it is compteing across the tests against the 424's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibbo Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 @fc.cadoni oh ok nice one cheers for that, interested to see how these 2 tactics do across the tests because they look excellent based on the below stats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, Sibbo said: @fc.cadoni oh ok nice one cheers for that, interested to see how these 2 tactics do across the tests because they look excellent based on the below stats Currently I am running the 2nd run of HGF 451 AF P110 CC. Next 2nd run will be for BEO BAL TIG 4231 IF VOL P107 EC CC. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 @Sibbo I actually prefer league tests, as the tactic is in a natural environment, and HUB Test a guide to which tactic to use for a certain team. If you take CA 160 it is nowhere near winning league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibbo Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 @knapAwesome cheers, I will defo have a play around with the above 2 tactics, their results look superb based on pts and GD etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par1s Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) @Sibbo I tend to use mostly a 4231 tactic and except the ParisKnap tactic that you may saw in the Google sheet which is a combination of me and @knap I have test on my main saves for many years in game the Venom and the UsAndThem which are both of them pretty nice. You will score plenty goals and you concede less than 30 off course with Maguire out of the squad. 😂 Few pages ago you will see how both of the tactics help me a lot. Take the time and check. With ManUtd probably I will use the UsAndThem for away games and the Venom for home games. If you get a red card with venom change to UsAndThem. Something else I would like to say is that I never take into account the testing results. I prefer the tactic that score a lot and concede the less but always a tactic of 4231 or 433 shape. Edited February 3, 2023 by Par1s 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibbo Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 @Par1shahaha absolutely bang on about Maguire! first player out the door for me! ha! Awesome thanks for the heads up, some great info I will check that out this weekend when I plan to spend a good few hours in the game. I too prefer to look for a tactic based on alot of goals and conceding less. I also like to see goals spread arounnd my attacking players like the wide players and the AMC not just the AF. The 4231 is defo the formation I like best I just need to find one and stick to it, with so many options I'm constantly thinking whether I am running the best 4231 tactic or whether I should switch to a different one. The one I am using now BEOWULF 4231 IW VOL P103 EC FA has really good GF and GD ratings and it's working well. I can win the league no worries but I will end up smashing City 5-0 and then go lose to southampton away 4-1 or Palace will do me 5-3 or something and it's then when I start looking for a better more consistent 4231 or 451 option Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par1s Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 I prefer to play with IF’s so I haven’t try the tactic you mentioned. Try the tactic I suggested before and you will thank me later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 @hugofmdias I set that up pre the current ME Still works but is on attacking mentality Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 ME 23.4 BEOWULF BAL TIG 4231 Skew P103 EC CC ME23.1BEOWULFKnapBALTIG4231SkewP103ECCC.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopfan1977 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 18 hours ago, mosiclover said: @kopfan1977where's the link, guy? Look for the below on Knap's google docs.. Look at my original picture and just adjust the DM accordingly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 ME 23.4 ROCK STEADY 42112 P107 FA CC ME23.1ROCKSTEADYJaeKnap42112P107FACC.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 On 01/02/2023 at 23:29, knap said: ME 23.1 TIME WAS 4141 PSG P104 FA CC ME23.1TIMEWAS4141CrragswfcKnapP104FACC.fmf 46.27 kB · 114 downloads cant see this on google docs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosiclover Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, knap said: ME 23.4 ROCK STEADY 42112 P107 FA CC ME23.1ROCKSTEADYJaeKnap42112P107FACC.fmf 45.58 kB · 37 downloads Van Dijk is the best striker of squad, 32 goals. OMG Edited February 4, 2023 by mosiclover Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 @cragswfc ID 231108 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae45 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 13 hours ago, knap said: ME 23.4 ROCK STEADY 42112 P107 FA CC ME23.1ROCKSTEADYJaeKnap42112P107FACC.fmf 45.58 kB · 43 downloads 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamieac Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 On 02/02/2023 at 18:06, kopfan1977 said: @knap Still my fave tactic this year.. Made one minor adjustment to the DM pairing. Plays like a dream most of the time. Needless to say I've become quite dominant. Maybe, Too dominant. I've hoovered up every trophy for the past 4 seasons. Even with my welsh regens that are all still 18-21 I have managed to win the Euros and undefeated in 28 games. These are some crazy results no matter what team you have. I liked the way this played but it started not working for me and I moved onto different tactics but I'm not sure I tried on the latest patch. May have to give it a try again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 2 hours ago, knap said: @cragswfc ID 231108 this tacic is amazing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinho Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 @cragswfcIve been using this with NUFC season 5 and it is amazing, thanks ! - what kind of players work best in AML and AMR - traditional wingers / inverted wingers or more playmaker types? Bellingham and Musiala are amazing in the AMC roles, but in not getting the same numbers you are out of Elliot Anderson / Harvey Elliot and Endrick in the winger positions, cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbelig Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 16 hours ago, knap said: ME 23.4 ROCK STEADY 42112 P107 FA CC ME23.1ROCKSTEADYJaeKnap42112P107FACC.fmf 45.58 kB · 15 downloads Hi and thanks for all your great work! You think this would work in a symmetrical formation with 2 IW instead of 2 AF? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 @jbelig It is based on this tactic so should work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbelig Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 @knap Well, kind of answered my own question quite fast... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 ME 23.1 ROCK STEADY 4213 VOL P18 EC ME23.1ROCKSTEADYKnap4213VOLP108EC.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, Martinho said: @cragswfcIve been using this with NUFC season 5 and it is amazing, thanks ! - what kind of players work best in AML and AMR - traditional wingers / inverted wingers or more playmaker types? Bellingham and Musiala are amazing in the AMC roles, but in not getting the same numbers you are out of Elliot Anderson / Harvey Elliot and Endrick in the winger positions, cheers. i use - traditional wingers but ive only got 1 left winger 1 so the inverted winger winger on left works equally as good wingbacks play well as wingers I find striker do well in am i would play bellingham dm and endrick as am and you need a striker who is tall n fast eg haaland young cristano lukaku etc Edited February 5, 2023 by cragswfc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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knap Posted February 5, 2023 Author Share Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) ME 23.1 ROCK STEADY 42121 P101 ALL CUPS ME23.1ROCKSTEADYJaeKnap42121P101ALLCUPS.fmf Edited February 5, 2023 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Yes I know I'm in season 43/44 a d got a world class squad with regens but my word Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2023 Author Share Posted February 5, 2023 @cragswfc Haaland is king, is this a similar player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2023 Author Share Posted February 5, 2023 PSG Test Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymubdo21 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 I'm struggling to get a 2 striker tactic consistent going, especially with the two strikers firing/working together. Any particular tactics that work well in this, I'm not a fan of a 442 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, knap said: @cragswfc Haaland is king, is this a similar player? yes do a test with man city? Edited February 5, 2023 by cragswfc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2023 Author Share Posted February 5, 2023 @Raymubdo21 There is a ROCK STEADY 2 Striker above. Some strikers are just way better than others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymubdo21 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 47 minutes ago, knap said: @Raymubdo21 There is a ROCK STEADY 2 Striker above. Some strikers are just way better than others. Ok I'll check it out, thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cricketdave Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Love the different shapes that appear. For me at least, it makes the game so much more enjoyable when I don't tie myself to the most overpowered formation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzahutc Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 5 hours ago, cragswfc said: Yes I know I'm in season 43/44 a d got a world class squad with regens but my word do you keep the very attacking mentality for every match? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, gazzahutc said: do you keep the very attacking mentality for every match? yes i d now, but i used to change when i had weaker players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjacopo Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 9 minuti fa, cragswfc ha scritto: yes i d now, but i used to change when i had weaker players what tactic? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 ID 231108 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2023 Author Share Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) ME23.1 TIIME WAS 4141 BAL ST MC P106 FA ME23.1TIMEWAS4141CrragswfcKnapBALSTMCP106FA.fmf Edited February 5, 2023 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2023 Author Share Posted February 5, 2023 @gazzahutc Above is exactly the same apart from Balanced mentality. Corners are focused on ST. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, knap said: ME23.1 TIME WAS 4141 BAL ST MC P106 FA ME23.1TIMEWAS4141CrragswfcKnapBALSTMCP106FA.fmf 46.29 kB · 2 downloads this be a good away tactic to go with the origianl what could be used as a home or odds on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjacopo Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 1 ora fa, knap ha scritto: ME23.1 TIIME WAS 4141 BAL ST MC P106 FA ME23.1TIMEWAS4141CrragswfcKnapBALSTMCP106FA.fmf 46.29 kb · 23 downloads doesn't seem very stable if you are not coaching a super team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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