Dicko1878 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, knap said: @Dicko1878 Right on right would be starting position but You can't really tell until you actual play games. Salah is left but nearly always will be on right. Sweet, got Vinicius and Sancho so I was worried I'd need a left footer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko1878 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, knap said: @Dicko1878 Right on right would be starting position but You can't really tell until you actual play games. Salah is left but nearly always will be on right. One last question by the way, what types of players do you need for the SS role? I'm thinking Barbosa, kinda of a second striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 @Dicko1878 SS role? what tactic are you using? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko1878 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Just now, knap said: @Dicko1878 SS role? what tactic are you using? 4-4-1-1 Black Echo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 @Dicko1878 Firmino type player creative but also a good striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko1878 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Just now, knap said: @Dicko1878 Firmino type player creative but also a good striker Looks like Barbosa will fit the bill once he's retrained into the AMC position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 @Dicko1878 Are you using training Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Any chance of an updated Sicilian or has 20.4.1 killed it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
radetzky Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 37 minuti fa, knap ha scritto: @radetzky Bear in mind the Rober did make a few transfers but even so the MM idea appeared to work well, as you can see from Cup Final. yeah i see, some quality transfer, in any case it proofs that man marking works. This tactic has not released yet? isn't it? I am trying myself an extreme man marking with an Oxford shape tactic but only for very tough matches or when i have to defend the lead. my striker marks the opponent's lower CM my AMC marks the other opponent's CM my AMC marks the opponent's AMC Till now has worked 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) Now trying it with Everton, no transfers. I am however using a Fire with 2 pressing forwards and a amc, I think this gives me the best results Calvert-Lewin is marking Maitland Niles, as he is the mc who drops down to get the ball from the CB. Seems to work better with a PF. The other PF is stressing the defenders, and my AMC is pressing Ceballos both without marking set. Sort of a triangle and Arsenal defence just clear the ball. When I face a DM Calvert-Lewin marks him. He injured Fabinho, and they could not really create much. Could have been a draw, but we got the winner. Early in the season you might succeed with the game plan, but still not win. As @knap said they will still manage to score 2 goals on their 3 shots on target Edited May 9, 2020 by Rober82 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko1878 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 46 minutes ago, knap said: @Dicko1878 Are you using training It's all just left to the assistant and I train the players to the role, nothing fancy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffer23 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 On 07/05/2020 at 15:56, knap said: FM 20.4.1 BEOWULF 442 W AF VOL 3 POSITIVE P103 ALL CUPS Salah scored a few goals. !!!!!!!!!!!!!FM20.4.1BEOWULF442WAFKnapVOL3POSP103ALLCUPS.fmf 45.04 kB · 32 downloads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffer23 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 What tactic is working best for people at the moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustin1979 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Scruffer23 said: What tactic is working best for people at the moment For me, the one you quoted above! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffer23 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 25 minutes ago, Augustin1979 said: For me, the one you quoted above! I have really good amc so I’m looking for a tactic that will get the best from them I signed mejbri from Man Utd and also have a really good new gen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustin1979 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Scruffer23 said: I have really good amc so I’m looking for a tactic that will get the best from them I signed mejbri from Man Utd and also have a really good new gen I understand. I'm using Mejbri as the MCR in the "BEOWULF 442 W AF VOL 3 POSITIVE P103 ALL CUPS" and his been excellent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffer23 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Augustin1979 said: I understand. I'm using Mejbri as the MCR in the "BEOWULF 442 W AF VOL 3 POSITIVE P103 ALL CUPS" and his been excellent. I’m just disappointed in how many my strikers are getting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendixkunert2 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 38 minutes ago, Scruffer23 said: What tactic is working best for people at the moment Tea for One4321OxfordP103 always overachieved with this tactic. Latest was Bolton winning promotion to the Championship in season 1. There are other really good tactics and some are better for this and that team but this tactic works at least fairly well for about any team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 @Heywood JaBlowme SICILIAN 42211 was working well, but in geral 2 DMs may be a bit weaker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grazdoztrez Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 On 07/05/2020 at 00:02, grazdoztrez said: 20.4.1Fire and WaterVol24312P101EC Second season with this tactic, first season I switched too late and lost in the playoffs. Made some shrewd signings and some excellent loans (Kean, Campana, Alvarez, Roberts, Jones). Thanks Knap I'm struggling 3rd season, now in the prem. Got spanked 10-2 by Spurs first game, and have been really up and down since: We struggled vs Newcastle in a 0-1, then were delightful vs Chelsea in a 4-2 (was 4-0 until 85th or something). We had much more/better stats vs Saints, 4ccc vs 1 or something and then I sent the reserves out i the EFL. I find the wingers are almost useless in games. They rarely attempt crosses, and when they do they usually just blast the ball into the defender which often rebounds perfectly all the back to the opposition forward his is offside and they score, because well, the AI rarely misses a 1-vs-1. I am not too disheartened as we brought in essentially a new starting XI except the GK, who is not up to prem standard, but the wild inconsistency is the issue for me. I wouldn't be happy to lose each game 1-0, 2-0, 2-1, but when you can put performances together one week and then are just abysmal the next week. I am worried that unless the forwards are OP for the division (as Kean & Campana were in the Championship) that the tactic maybe isn't strong enough to maintain a positive PPG %. I don't want to get into the spiral of trying to chase results with minor tactical tweaks and changes, and I've moulded the team around these positions, so my options are few at the moment. IMO there seems to be major weaknesses in the midfield, and it was also true while smashing teams in the Champ, except there it was perhaps covered up by two OP forwards and some really good loan signings. In the prem, we are often outclassed by very average teams (WBA, Newcastle, Southampton etc). I am wary attempting to learn a new tactic midseason, but I think I will look to see if there is one which will suit the players available better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markv1 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 On 15/04/2020 at 20:07, knap said: FM 20.4.1 FIRE ANS WATER VOL 2 4321 OXFORD P103 EC !!!!!!FM20.4.1Fire and WaterVOL24321OXP103EC.fmf 45.39 kB · 1,028 downloads What PPM you want & don't want for this tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 @grazdoztrez All FIRE tactics will be set up in the same way, so changing should not be a problem. Man Marking may help as well as a4321. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) @grazdoztrez Might i suggest this one, should be fairly close but with a DM. Wingers and crossing work excellent.1979257039_!!!!FM20.4.1FireandWater23212P104EC.fmf Edited May 9, 2020 by Rober82 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko1878 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 I've noticed I'm conceding on the counter from corners a fair bit due to a single player being back. If I drop a player back or change the taker, will it make a difference? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallings11 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Rober82 said: Now trying it with Everton, no transfers. I am however using a Fire with 2 pressing forwards and a amc, I think this gives me the best results Calvert-Lewin is marking Maitland Niles, as he is the mc who drops down to get the ball from the CB. Seems to work better with a PF. The other PF is stressing the defenders, and my AMC is pressing Ceballos both without marking set. Sort of a triangle and Arsenal defence just clear the ball. When I face a DM Calvert-Lewin marks him. He injured Fabinho, and they could not really create much. Could have been a draw, but we got the winner. Early in the season you might succeed with the game plan, but still not win. As @knap said they will still manage to score 2 goals on their 3 shots on target Can you link the tactic you are using please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Wallings11 said: Can you link the tactic you are using please? Just did that, above post. Edited May 9, 2020 by Rober82 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mull Jag Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Ive just started a save in the Brazilian Serie C , what would you recommend as a decent tactic. Used Fires and Water and Argus on previous saves just think these might be a reach for the quality of the team! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 @Dicko1878 You can try as I use a few set ups Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 @Mad Mull Jag I doubt there would be a problem as they are heavy PIs dictating to the player. The opposite would be TEA as very few PIs letting the player having more control. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey22 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 looking for a 4231 tactic for a mid table team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAFC_Dugout Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 On 07/05/2020 at 15:56, knap said: FM 20.4.1 BEOWULF 442 W AF VOL 3 POSITIVE P103 ALL CUPS Salah scored a few goals. !!!!!!!!!!!!!FM20.4.1BEOWULF442WAFKnapVOL3POSP103ALLCUPS.fmf 45.04 kB · 660 downloads have tried and tested loads of different tactics on FM20 but this is by far the best this result in my 6th season and 3rd season in the prem. Currently sitting in 4th. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 If the positive BEOWULF is going down well I will post a positive TEA 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko1878 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, knap said: If the positive BEOWULF is going down well I will post a positive TEA I found the Parisienne Walkways 4-2-3-1 on postive was really good as well a few months ago 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallings11 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Rober82 said: Just did that, above post. Is the man marking set up in the tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Wallings11 said: Is the man marking set up in the tactic? No. So far I use Pressing Forward Left to mark the dmc, or the mc dlp if a flat three or four. Might find more later, but this works really great. Especially if you have a pressing forward with strength stamina and the usual stuff. Working well for Everton, no signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustin1979 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 2 hours ago, knap said: If the positive BEOWULF is going down well I will post a positive TEA Think I've mentioned it but for me this is the best tactic so far in this years game. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergiolagartija Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 hace 2 horas, Rober82 dijo: No. So far I use Pressing Forward Left to mark the dmc, or the mc dlp if a flat three or four. Might find more later, but this works really great. Especially if you have a pressing forward with strength stamina and the usual stuff. Working well for Everton, no signings. Hey Rober. What do you do to close a game? Also what kind of players have you found more efficient? i´m wondering if the DM is a Casemiro or a Pirlo. Thanks!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Just now, sergiolagartija said: Hey Rober. What do you do to close a game? Also what kind of players have you found more efficient? i´m wondering if the DM is a Casemiro or a Pirlo. Thanks!! i don't need to with this MM. It closes the game for them from the start to the end Both can work. Casemiro then less conceded. Had Docoure at Palace was great. If Pirlo then more goals but a few more conceded. Still you win 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adlyd90 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Nobody will tell me that this game is broken ... I'm not one of these teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy20 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, adlyd90 said: Nobody will tell me that this game is broken ... I'm not one of these teams. You could go back to any FM and find results like this, literally every FM and football game in general. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteo1313 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 hi what is the best tactic to use with Napoli? @knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earnie is God! Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 4 hours ago, Dicko1878 said: I've noticed I'm conceding on the counter from corners a fair bit due to a single player being back. If I drop a player back or change the taker, will it make a difference? Yes, you will concede fewer You may also not score as many either, depending on how you change it. Tbh, I change them anyway. I can't be having just one player back for corners so I tend to push my DM (or similar) back there too but still make sure I have someone lurking outside the box. I also change how my team defends everything, especially free kicks. FM19 and FM20 seem keen on you conceding lots from free kicks because your defenders are idiots, so you have to try and set them up properly. With the way that long range shots always seem to fly in, when I'm defending wide/deep free kicks, I always make sure I've got a player or two on the edge of the box to close them down. Too many times, they have taken the free kick short and then some moron with a long shot rating of 3 smashes it in from 30yds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, Earnie is God! said: You may also not score as many either, depending on how you change it. Tbh, I change them anyway. I can't be having just one player back for corners so I tend to push my DM (or similar) back there too but still make sure I have someone lurking outside the box. Not really sure this should be happening. He usually is safe and leaves 3 behind. Sure not one or two of the ones left behind somehow are takers or involved? I have 2 back at all times. @knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko1878 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rober82 said: Not really sure this should be happening. He usually is safe and leaves 3 behind. Sure not one or two of the ones left behind somehow are takers or involved? I have 2 back at all times. @knap This is what I have here with Beowulf 4-2-4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Dicko1878 said: This is what I have here with Beowulf 4-2-4 Oh I thought you said you had only one back Ah, now i see. Your DR has TK on him. Means he is taking the corners. That means on back.... Swap him with MCL f ex. Edited May 9, 2020 by Rober82 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko1878 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Just now, Rober82 said: Oh I thought you said you had only one back Well the other is the corner taker 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dicko1878 said: Well the other is the corner taker Edited above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko1878 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Just now, Rober82 said: Edited above. Just saw mate haha I think that's what I'll do and see how it gets one 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 I use different SP set ups on different types of tactics This is the one with TEA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macgreg Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 @knap Please can you recommend a home and away tactics for Everton🙏 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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