knap Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 @zdravec2010 Is that not just a 451? Preachin Blues 451 does use WBs in a flat 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comandante Bilic Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 tooo many tactics w/tooo many tests, would be great if you suggest your top 3 picks for a top and sub-top team respectively (: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, Comandante Bilic said: tooo many tactics w/tooo many tests, would be great if you suggest your top 3 picks for a top and sub-top team respectively (: Not too many because people prefer different formations. Tactic aren't the most important part anymore. Mentality, team cohesion and morale seems equally important to me. You see all his tactics score like 100 points in PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 @Comandante Bilic The columns sort ,so just use sort and pick the top 3, or go a bit further down to find a formation you like. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 @Heywood JaBlowme Using the Hatter tactic, what wingers were you using regarding feet and ppms on left and right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 @knap Won’t have access to my PC till tomorrow to give you specifics. All I can say right now is I changed the left role to Winger and did not remove any of your additional PI. The player on the right had no issues. I changed nothing on the right side. It was only cutting inside that the left winger was not comfortable with so, on a hunch, I changed the roles. I’m in the Summer of 2030 ATM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 @Heywood JaBlowme No problem let me know tomorrow. I have Hatter set up with winger on left with same performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanonz Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Hey @knap great work on this new 442. Anexing some pics from so far. - NO GOALS SUFFERED IN FIRST 5 LEAGUE MATCHES (!) - Good movements and passing all around from the start. A lot of shots, had to take shooting off some players who are terrible at long shots; - Changed passing to shorter ones; - Right side striker switched to a DLP, Esposito started going nuts after this change. Before he was permanently offside ******* away, now he assists and score much more; - Set pieces changed to better fit my squad; - OI's and **** to assistant (if it's a good one... or avg-good) but you have to be careful with yellows; - Perma shouting at them bitches to give more and praising after goals bla bla. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 What's a good tactic for away games? getting a bit fed up struggling in them just simply because they are away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Sicilian P101 & Argus 352 are good away tactics. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) Tactic Spreadsheet http://bit.ly/knaptactics Because I test with top, the pts total in tactic name will give an idea of what is best for top club, Top Clubs should be able to use all of the tactics. Top Club say 1-4 in League (Lpool MC etc) Sub Top 5-10 in League Sub Mid 11-15 Underdog the rest Can also use Top and Sub Top a Home Tactic Underdog Away or Top Favourite Sub Top Evens Underdog if Underdog Edited January 13, 2020 by knap 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 @jdubsnz Rambling on what do you think of Gretchen Menn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 FM 20.2.3 Look Away Dropped DL FM20.2.3LookAway4132DLKnapP102.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 FM 20.2.3 Mad as a Hatter Winger version FM20.2.3Mad as aHatterKnapWIFP96EC.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romain.gilmena Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Hi @knap, Thank you for your amazing work on FM ! I am actually using your FM20.2SICILIAN442 v1 with my Inter Milan save with awesome results ( Won Serie A 101 pts / 1 lose & Won the UCL against MC ). I would like to know if you could recommend me a "tikataka Barca 2010 like" possession tactic ? or maybe one of your closest tactic to this gamestyle that i could modify ? Thanks a lot. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 I will have to check for a possession tactic, as I discussed this with Zaip, and will check to see how it worked out for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romain.gilmena Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Ok perfect thx, looking forward to hear you ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 It was about 55% average, over that you tend not to win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 @knap Is this what you're looking for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leehutchison29 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 what would be the best tactic for Dundee united please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bursucu22 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Hi Knap! Please recommend 2 tactics (of course the best): one for a big team and one for an underdog team. Thank you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 @leehutchison29 Not sure how Dundee rank in league or preferred formation. You can sort google doc of tactics above and this is a general guide. Because I test with top, the pts total in tactic name will give an idea of what is best for top club, Top Clubs should be able to use all of the tactics. Top Club say 1-4 in League (Lpool MC etc) Sub Top 5-10 in League Sub Mid 11-15 Underdog the rest Can also use Top and Sub Top a Home Tactic Underdog Away or Top Favourite Sub Top Evens Underdog if Underdog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 @Bursucu22 As above, although there may be another good underdog recommendation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 @romain.gilmena TIME Positive P100 has probably most possession. Zaip reckons his tactic no longer works, but will try tweak and improve passing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 @Heywood JaBlowme I was after the preferred foot of wingers and whether they had cut in ppm? The tactic still works with W IF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricrpor Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Its odd but neither Preaching or Sympathy P108 works for me... Had great success with sympathy 442 Leipzig , Beowulf 442 and Sicilian but this 2 unfortunately don't achieve great results . I picked a 442 tactic , don't recall if it was beowulf or 442 Leipzig and done some tweaks , mainly on players role, hoping to improve an already great performance . The start is promising 7 games and 7 wins 31-6 goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 You mean player info tab? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romain.gilmena Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 @knap thank you, could you linked me Zaip tactic please I cant find it, I will have a look ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 Zaip never posted the tactic. TIME is the tactic with highest possession. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 @Heywood JaBlowme With Hatter and Mane as AML with cut inside ppm right footed, Both tactic and Mane performed the same with the AML as Winger or IF. Now if AML without cut in ppm did not play as well as IF as winger then if the AML is left footed only then perhaps being asked to cut in as IF may not help. Based on quick snapshot it would appear that perhaps it is not the ppm that is an issue just the player only having a left foot. Not sure if that fits with your player set up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erzet17 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 46 minutes ago, Heywood JaBlowme said: You mean player info tab? Bad preffered moves @knap Left Striker > Right striker (goals)? Left striker - better left foot or right foot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BePlus Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Hi Knap! Any shutdown tactics you can share pls? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestfootie Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 What impact do touchline shouts have on FM20? I used to use every 10 mins in FM18 to decent effect. "Get stuck in" or "push forward" etc. Now when I shout at the players and I click 'sub' it tells me their body language is all off.... Any thoughts / advice? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 SUS = Defensive Regroup Hold Shape worked for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 I don't use shouts. They appeared OP in previous years from various comments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
radetzky Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 19 ore fa, knap ha scritto: FM 20.2.3 Look Away Dropped DL FM20.2.3LookAway4132DLKnapP102.fmf 45 kb · 76 downloads interesting this new one as i'm still playing with wulf 4132. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperBlade Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Do you have any Gegen press style tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 The loo away P102 is a rank 19/20 Tactic, @radetzky Which Wulf are you using? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 @ViperBlade Have you been watching the Reckonist? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMcK910 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Nothing really to add to this discussion other than great work @knap u must put in crazy hours developing these, without getting much done on ur own saves lol Had great success with many of ur tactics at different levels of the footballing pyramid. All I will add is the longer u stick with a tactic the better results get. Incredible work mate, great for lazy guys like me that want to just plug and play! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperBlade Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 25 minutes ago, knap said: @ViperBlade Have you been watching the Reckonist? HAHAHA yes! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setsuna Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 On 13/01/2020 at 21:49, kanonz said: Hey @knap great work on this new 442. Anexing some pics from so far. - NO GOALS SUFFERED IN FIRST 5 LEAGUE MATCHES (!) - Good movements and passing all around from the start. A lot of shots, had to take shooting off some players who are terrible at long shots; - Changed passing to shorter ones; - Right side striker switched to a DLP, Esposito started going nuts after this change. Before he was permanently offside ******* away, now he assists and score much more; - Set pieces changed to better fit my squad; - OI's and **** to assistant (if it's a good one... or avg-good) but you have to be careful with yellows; - Perma shouting at them bitches to give more and praising after goals bla bla. can you share this pls? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 @ViperBlade The idea is that any gegen press tactic will bring results beyond your dreams. I set up 2 tactics and had them tested. The first was a rank 8 and the 2nd rank 12. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
radetzky Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Il 12/1/2020 in 14:27 , Dreambuilder ha scritto: Predicted 7th subtop/underdog, first season with SympathyKnapLeipzigUnderdog4222. Record points and wins tho rotating with hot prospects in a B-team alot of games. This tactic made me learn and enjoy the Volante + IW roles and their long shots. Very happy, thanks @knap 1) It's the first season I managed mentality. It seems crucial in FM20. Almost never used attacking (some attacking duty roles tho). Check how offensive/defensive the opposition is. Start with Balanced or Positive (at home). If they are Defensive dont go above Positive. If they are Attacking go Cautious or Defensive and you will counter attack alot. There is a home bonus so sometimes you can use one notch higher mentality at home in general. But also depends on how good opposition. Mentality works just like in real life and you will get a feel for what mentality is a proper choice. 2) It often takes 15+ games before team cohesion and morale is good. I started with very poor team cohesion which brings early draws and losses. 3) Substituting players with low ratings is also important in second half. 4) Even if you manage everything there's still a random luck factor aswell just like in real life. Always have to accept a few draws and losses. Build a good team with good team cohesion + morale and you will win in the long run. Tactic + SUS links: FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzig.fmf 44 kb · 49 downloads FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzigSUS.fmf 44 kb · 48 downloads good job! it's useful explaining how you managed the mentalities. D-Line - offside trap - pressing same as default tacitc? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
radetzky Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 ora fa, knap ha scritto: The loo away P102 is a rank 19/20 Tactic, @radetzky Which Wulf are you using? I haven't saw that it had been already tested, it's a good score! Wulf 4132 106pt all cups with inverted wingbacks. Tick off the offside trap and lowering the d-line brought me straight to Europa League final at 1st season with Az Alkmaar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joao Caria Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Hey Knap! Wich is the best tactic for FM TOUCH 20.2.3? Playing with BENFICA! Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) FM 20.2 Tactics TACTIC LINKS AND TACTIC RANKINGS FROM THE INDEPEDENT TESTS (MR L & FM BASE) ARE NOW ON GOOGLE DOCS LINK BELOW http://bit.ly/knaptactics Because I test with top, the pts total in tactic name will give an idea of what is best for top club, Top Clubs should be able to use all of the tactics. Top Club say 1-4 in League (Lpool MC etc) Sub Top 5-10 in League Sub Mid 11-15 Underdog the rest Can also use Top and Sub Top a Home Tactic Underdog Away or Top Favourite Sub Top Evens Underdog if Underdog Edited January 15, 2020 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 I guess Benfica will be top or sub top Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 @ViperBlade You are welcome to try the tactics that were tested. In fact a few presets have been tested including gegen but 12 is the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joao Caria Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Ok but there is no specific tactic for FMT? The match engine is the same? No problem using any tactic? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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