knap Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 343s / 352 were working in Beta but not that efficient in FM 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyhop Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Getting crazy results on my second season with Bournemouth with Sympathy tactic, only wins after 4 months into the season. I do undoubtedly have a very good squad already, but the results are very impressive nonetheless. I also noticed, playing with right footed players on the right wing and left footed players on the left wing is beneficial, started getting better results after doing this change. @knap Have you done any testing regarding this? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 It was strikerless in FM 19 and Zaip, who has been helping with testing, turned it into a 4222. He has been tweaking to win league with Hertha, but not asked about inverted feet. I am very fluid with feet and will change them over during games. Do they have any cut in ppms/traits? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dersturmer Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 (edited) Full Version FM. Media Prediction 16. 4-1-3-2 only in first match (loss 1-3), then 4-14-1 . Results in Full mode are much better than in Fm Touch. Edited November 24, 2019 by Dersturmer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladyslav Pustovit Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 No transfers Instant Result TACTICS FM20WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stian Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 @knap first of all, thanks for the great tactics you provide! which tactic looks best so far on fm20? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyhop Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 18 minutes ago, stian said: @knap first of all, thanks for the great tactics you provide! which tactic looks best so far on fm20? Sympathy I would say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
442ta Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 13 hours ago, Heyhop said: Getting crazy results on my second season with Bournemouth with Sympathy tactic, only wins after 4 months into the season. I do undoubtedly have a very good squad already, but the results are very impressive nonetheless. I also noticed, playing with right footed players on the right wing and left footed players on the left wing is beneficial, started getting better results after doing this change. @knap Have you done any testing regarding this? Hello!! Is it possible to help me solve my little technical problem. I am one of those Google Stadia user. It works perfect but with a few minor problems. It aint possible to import or export tactics. So I tried to recreate the Sympathy tactic. Knap or someone else can you post a screenshot the In possesion-screen, in transition screen and out of possesion screen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 I have thought about Google Stadia myself however if you can't you import tactics that would be a major problem. Have you asked about a technical solution as there many PIs and set pieces that need setting up manually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
442ta Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Knap Yes it is unfortunatley a Google-isue. At the moment Stadia is a perfect option for me. I travel a lot with over 100 nights at hotel with good wifi. And i dont want to carry around two computers, only my work laptop. And i dont have acces to install software on that one. But stadia solves my problem. For me it is a lot bettet than nothing. But i dont think stadia is an otion for you. At least not at the moment. I understand that there is a lot of things behind the scenes in the tactic. But i thougt i could do the best of it and set up as many settings as i can manually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 If you go to page 10 there are screenshots of the basis of my tactics. Also on page 10 is the original tactic 4420 on which Sympathy is based. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulk8 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Hi Knap Is there a link for the Symathy tactic I see mentioned Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 FM 20 Tactic list on page 65 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulk8 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, knap said: FM 20 Tactic list on page 65 Thanks Knap I have bookmarked it now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffer23 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Which tactic is more likely to help me overachieve please guys ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 I will keep moving the list forward, probably when a new tactic is available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 There are a few Norwich tests above which I would say overachieve, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
442ta Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Thank you knap! Awesome! There is a lot of info. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmymcintyre Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Hey, @knap what is your opinion on the 4231 or 4123 in this years game? Or what would you say are the best formations in this years game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilmz88 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 (edited) are the tactics still in order of recommendation also whats the difference with wulf and goodbye Edited November 24, 2019 by hilmz88 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 No long tests yet so no recommendation order. Goodbye uses less TIs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTRocker Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 On 23/11/2019 at 11:41, knap said: FM 20 Tactics 442 Sympathy for the Devil (Top sub top underdog) FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzig.fmf44.88 kB · 812 downloads 4132 WULF FM20WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSFM20P102ECCC.fmf45.22 kB · 522 downloads 4132 GOODBYE FM20GOODBYE4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP101.fmf 45.17 kB · 181 downloads 4141(top sub top underdog) FM20.1WULF4141SPKnapP106ECCCKINGP107_SOLOUNAMIGOP104KINGP104FM20P99ECFAATTACKP103.fmf45.19 kB · 742 downloads 442 FM20WULF442PFPWMKnapP110ECCCFM20P102ECCC.fmf44.85 kB · 553 downloads 451 FM20BLUEMATTER433DMKnapP108ECCC451IWFM20P102P98.fmf43.7 kB · 76 downloads 424 (Top Teams) MU Lpool !!!!!!!!!!FM19.3.5BEOWULF424IFKnapP108ECCCKINGP101FM20P103.fmf44.71 kB · 215 downloads 442 (sub top) Bayer 04 19.3.4WULF442PFPWMKnapP112ECFAFM20P97ALLCUPS53.fmf44.89 kB · 107 downloads 41311 Leeds FM20 PILGRIMAGE41311 leftbKnapKonP52.fmf45.16 kB · 31 downloads Hey guys, which tactic from the above would you recommend for Arsenal at FM20? I would like to respect the tactical history off the club, play good offensive football and bear in mind i'll put youngsters on the squad... Is it just me or Ozil is so overpayed on his wage.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
442ta Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 2 hours ago, knap said: If you go to page 10 there are screenshots of the basis of my tactics. Also on page 10 is the original tactic 4420 on which Sympathy is based. Are there anything i should think of in sympathy regarding PI in the cental block (the two forwards and the two central midfielders) compared to 4420? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 The 2 sss are just pushed up. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 (edited) Somebody has played Arsenal and won PL - used 4141 Edited November 24, 2019 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mielony Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 442 Sympathy for the Devil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andypandy44 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Started decent, now im having terrible results. Using Sympathy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 May have lost a bit of confidence after those defeats by Man City and Real Madrid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGizMo Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, knap said: May have lost a bit of confidence after those defeats by Man City and Real Madrid He did win from Bayern so i guess its not that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dersturmer Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 I have pleasure with my team Tambov in full version FM. Rotate 4-1-3-2, 4-2-2-2 and 4-1-4-1. I think 4-1-4-1 is the best option. I will use in the second segment of the championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 (edited) Sicilian Defense FM20SICILIAN442PFDMIWBSPKnapP98ALLCUPS.fmf Edited November 24, 2019 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 (edited) Thanks, but I thought you were unsure about tactics that got less than 90 points. NEVER MIND. I see 98 points in loaded tactic. Edited November 24, 2019 by Heywood JaBlowme Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 98 PTS with my set up, Leipzig test which Zaip runs is only 34 games so potential 98 pts, which is similar to Sympathy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miangelo Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 What is the best tactic among all these tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCArsenal Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Is there a tactic that make the strikers actually score goals? I am struggling to score with my strikers altough my team scores decent amount of goals. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Using Sympathy for the Devil (media prediction 16th); Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 On 23/11/2019 at 11:41, Ivoensousa said: Hi there @donhughberto, can you share your Blue Matter 451 with your tweaks please? I'm not having lucky this year on FM Cheers for the results No changes just move DM to Midfield as shown above and move striker to left of center. I read elsewhere that a striker moves around move if not in center. This ME is bonkers. Came back to earth with some draws but not defeated yet. One thing is my team should be unbeatable (world class lineup) so may not work for others like. Anyway I mostly get all knaps tactics and play about. There is no equal to him 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 (edited) Sympathy for the Devil Vol 2 FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzigvol2.fmf Edited November 24, 2019 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 4132 FM20WULF4132PFDMIWBAPDLPKnapP102ALLCUPS.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZimmermanPT Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 How was it in CL with RBLepzig? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, knap said: Sympathy for the Devil Vol 2 FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzigvol2.fmf 44.91 kB · 10 downloads What's changed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 WBs and DMs - Zaip won the league with Heartha but was tweaking at the same time. Hopefully a better tactic overall. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andypandy44 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 5 hours ago, knap said: May have lost a bit of confidence after those defeats by Man City and Real Madrid Might have been that, feels like bad spells is harder to deal with now. Stuck with the tactic and managed to turn things around. Ever since the Real game early december things have been really good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 Back in FM08 taking Oxford Utd to PL, I lost 3 games in a row, with no apparent reason. Since then I just accept losing a few games in a row and just carry on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, knap said: Back in FM08 taking Oxford Utd to PL, I lost 3 games in a row, with no apparent reason. Since then I just accept losing a few games in a row and just carry on. The Oxford tactic from FM08 was the best tactic I have ever used! 4321 and I won everything with Lyon..... those were the days! Knap do you recommend new Sympathy for the Devil over the new 4132 you posted earlier? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 Either will win league with Leipzig or Lpool The 4132 is better with Loool than Leipzig but the 4132 is also ALL CUPS. In those days the ME was more exciting compared to a very dull ME in FM 20 and FM 19. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecnot Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) Just tested Sympathy v1 with Viking in the Norwegian league. Predicted finish 16th (last). My results: Got lots of yellows and reds though. 83 yellows and 10 reds in 30 games Edited November 25, 2019 by Ecnot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronRedDevil Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Using Sympathy with Man Utd season 1 and results very mixed. Home it is good, away not good at all. I watch games, no OI, very few shouts. Will stick with it for a few more games to see if results turn around. Problem is that it is too open and I am getting caught out on counter against teams with fast/good players. The losses were probably deserved and not unlucky, I had chances but the opponents had more/better and seemed to be in control of the games. One crucial item is attacking corners - make sure to set your takers to players who are not your fullbacks. If a fullback takes the corner you are often left with NO players back. Kind of funny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Well the vol 2 Sympathy is doing really well with Werder Bremen, a bottom team in germany. Conceding a bit, but i dont have great defender so, not so strange. Best yet! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Knap, i'm having good success with the new 4132 tactic, but was wondering if you dismiss the pre-match tactical briefing, or do you leave it to your assistant? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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