Falkenberg Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Knap, do you have any recommended preffered moves for players to train for tequila sunrise? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 Changing roles will mess up tactic structure. You may or may not find a better set up, but it will not be a tested option until you test it yourself. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 Most movement PPMs are good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 The earlier P104 tested better than the P107 or the 4132 with the CA 145 test. I need to catch up on further testing on these tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 https://mrltactics.com/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) A few test results puts the order as follows WULF 4132 (FM 19 P112) (CA 120 UNDERDOG RECOMMENDED) SYMPATHY 442 (CA 120 UNDERDOG RECOMMENDED) WULF 4141 (CA 120 UNDERDOG RECOMMENDED) ARGUS 352 (CA 120 UNDERDOG RECOMMENDED) SYMPATHY 4222 (CA 120 UNDERDOG RECOMMENDED) WULF 442 WULF 424 BM 433 SYMPATHY 4222 VOL 2 I would add Tequila Sunrise to that list to try Edited December 2, 2019 by knap 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 @knap In the BM 433 you use a complete forward, would you keep the role in lower leagues or go for another role? And what would you suggest, the AF role for goalscoring, or something like the DLF A or Pressing Forward ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 Just need fast strikers and try to ignore which role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 2 hours ago, knap said: The earlier P104 tested better than the P107 or the 4132 with the CA 145 test. I need to catch up on further testing on these tactics. Im a bit confused wit the testing at MRL. Are they testing with max fluid? If not, then tactics wont get fluid since they not enough hired staff. Just Ass Man.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 MR L has not started testing (FM Base and FM Arena have started. I do not get involved with testing as it would be a conflict of interest,. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 You can basically set up different roles in exactly the same way from a player point of view. Roles and duties are crucial in setting up how a tactic works as a whole for the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Is “Shoot less often” option for Forwards supposed to make them more patient and not take wasteful/stupid shots, or is it not that simple since it’s hard to get consistent scoring from Strikers & this area of the ME is crap? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefancatalinptu Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Top 5 attacking Mezallas to sign in this edition for a top team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 In theory but in practice many factors but AI Tactics and ME play a big part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 3-5-2 FM20NorthernSoulMRHKnap5-3-2P104CC.fmf FM20NorthernSoulMRHKnap5-3-2P107ECFA.fmf 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve dewilde Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Knap, thanks again for your awesome tactics, when you post results of your tests can you post screenie about goals distribution among the players if not asking too much About this what is your feeling about all your tactics: which one has most potential in terms of goals for forwards or fowards and wingers combined? cheers mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuper Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Knap - how do you rank these last two tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorando Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 On 25/11/2019 at 19:46, rjinswand said: Anyone tried Blue Matter 433 (4-1-2-2-1)? How does it hold up in comparison to these other tactics? I prefer to play that or 4231 but haven't found something that's really good yet. I'm having lots of fun with it... sublime tactic 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 I've asked for top goal scorers to be included in test results. I will try and change screen view as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 Inside information - it will be close to top on FM Base Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2paff Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) 442 sympathy for the devil FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipvol2442P103ECCC amazing tactic knap! managed 114 points on previous fm with one of your tactics, but this one outperforms in each department, so many goals from all over the place. From my experience this one tops it. great job again Edited December 3, 2019 by 2paff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 Very good side with Strikers scoring Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2paff Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 yes tried to find best players for each position/role first season was the usual squad with a few signings and did already pretty good. City do provide key players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjdgns8612 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 @2paff FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzig or FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipvol2442P103ECCC which one u used? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) Edited December 3, 2019 by Rober82 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filer974 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 il y a 22 minutes, Rober82 a dit : With which tactic ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Filer974 said: With which tactic ? Sympathy vol 2 4222. Not supposed to be working acc to test. The 4132 wulf, which is top tactic in testing is not working for me at all. Confusing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffer23 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 @knap where are you ranking the nouthern soul tactics ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2paff Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 hours ago, wjdgns8612 said: @2paff FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzig or FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipvol2442P103ECCC which one u used? FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipvol2442P103ECCC this one mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
najeczka Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 7 hours ago, 2paff said: 442 sympathy for the devil amazing tactic knap! managed 114 points on previous fm with one of your tactics, but this one outperforms in each department, so many goals from all over the place. From my experience this one tops it. great job again Which tactis is that exactly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2paff Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, najeczka said: Which tactis is that exactly? FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipvol2442P103ECCC this one mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, knap said: 3-5-2 FM20NorthernSoulMRHKnap5-3-2P104CC.fmf 45.34 kB · 44 downloads FM20NorthernSoulMRHKnap5-3-2P107ECFA.fmf 45.36 kB · 66 downloads The second one P107 looks awesome! Gonna give it a go for next season. One major advantage is that it doesen't use MLR. Good MLR is alot harder to find than other positions. Liverpool got one of the best squads in the world but only 11 conceded and 90 GD really appeals to me. I like WB:s too. Thanks! Edited December 3, 2019 by Dreambuilder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dersturmer Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Tequilla is best. But it is impossible to play normally through the Instant Result that in FM Touch that in the full version. I loaded the autosave at the beginning of the second season and started playing through watching matches (after loss 1-2 ). Here 's the result. On instant result only draws and defeats with any tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daherlihy Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 On 23/10/2018 at 13:30, knap said: P102 (Top Sub top underdog) Silly question here - what does P102 mean in your posts, and also "top sub top underdog"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soviet Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 102 points and who is it good for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 I have not used Instant Result no match plan since FM 16. I have seen a report of changing mentality so not sure if a potential bug. The alternative is to holiday match day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daherlihy Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 56 minutes ago, Soviet said: 102 points and who is it good for. thanks - not quit understanding what the "top sub" or "top sub top" means though ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, daherlihy said: thanks - not quit understanding what the "top sub" or "top sub top" means though ... For what teams it works good, some tactics only work for good teams, others only work better for underdog (=predicted to finish not so high) teams. You have these teams * Top teams * sub-top teams * underdog teams Edited December 3, 2019 by DavyDepuydt1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 P102 relates to pts for a top team Sub top is an independent test with a CA 145 Test team, Underdog is same test but with a CA 120 team. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmastrich Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) Hello Knap, Using Lass's tweaked version of your Sympathy 2 with FANTASTIC results in first season!! Edited December 3, 2019 by elmastrich unable to show images, spelling! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsca_0606 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 15 minutes ago, elmastrich said: Hello Knap, Using Lass's tweaked version of your Sympathy 2 with FANTASTIC results in first season!! Where can we find this tweak? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Great result with Newcastle of course but 87 points doesen't stand out from multiple tactics and tests presented in this thread. Knap's recommended list of tactics is the best bet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 It was Tequila Sunrise which I recommend, just hope it gets tested soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Enjoying BM 433 in my career, agreed it might not be the best tactic, but you still easily outperform expectations, and it's one of the more natural formations and role/duties, so feels more realistic for me and I don't have to think about my tactic anymore 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmastrich Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 8 hours ago, Rober82 said: WOW! great stuff, even better than my 2nd with NUFC!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmastrich Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 50 minutes ago, rsca_0606 said: Where can we find this tweak? I think it is around p64/65 on this thread. Looks identical to Knap's Sympathy V2 but must have some subtle edits somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bothan Spy Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I love playing with inside forwards and one striker up front? Has there been any success or testing done with my favourite formation 4231? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
肥罗 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 ARGUS 352 P103 EC CC，How many goals？How many balls have been lost？I value defense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 From my tested tactics so far ARGUS 352 concedes the least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
肥罗 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) how many concedes？ approximately Edited December 3, 2019 by 肥罗 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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