knap Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 @smlrch1892 Yes and I re tested tactic to make sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 FM 21 TACTICS GOOGLE DOCS https://bit.ly/knap2021 YT Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCILCgjDOjzTjS2OjaTpwxJg Tactic table available from Baden Powell Weighted attributes Pdf Attribute_Weights.pdf.pdf35.17 kB · 59 downloads RDF TRAINING SCHEDULES For_Knaps_Tactics_One_Match_RDF.fmf19.24 kB · 176 downloads For_Knaps_Tactics_Two_Matches_RDF.fmf19.24 kB · 148 downloads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloken Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Best tactic for teams like Lazio, Leeds and Fiorentina? So temped to play with any of those teams 😊 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 @Sloken WARRIOR 442 VENOM 442 OR ang HGF Vunom wide diamond/Oxford type tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) FM 21.4 ME BLACK ECHO 4321 OX P106 FM21.4BlackEchoKnap4321OXP106.fmf Edited January 5, 2021 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY1969 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Not bad in Four Seasons 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Robot Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) @knapwhich 4231 u prefer for top teams, the parisienne oder the time formation? and which tactic u prefer in hard CL-Games is beowulf 442 a decent 1? or the warrior 4132? Edited January 5, 2021 by Mr.Robot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
radetzky Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 1 ora fa, TONY1969 ha scritto: Not bad in Four Seasons How have you faced Rangers and Celtic? With Default settings or changing something? And did you challenge with them or you got smashed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamieac Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, TONY1969 said: Not bad in Four Seasons You use the original and just tweak the midfielder? Or was this a tactic already posted in here? Edited January 5, 2021 by Jamieac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY1969 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 I used the same tactic Home and Away, I changed nothing i just plug and play 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drhay53 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Mr.Robot said: @knapwhich 4231 u prefer for top teams, the parisienne oder the time formation? and which tactic u prefer in hard CL-Games is beowulf 442 a decent 1? or the warrior 4132? I prefer Parisienne but TIME gave fine results in the half-season I used it on positive for away matches. Honestly, people are getting fixated on which tactic is "best", but in my opinion you should just pick whichever of Knap's tactics plays the shape, roles, and style you like. You do have to be a little smart not to pick i.e. Mad as a Hatter or run like hell as a primary tactic for an underdog, but in terms of the 4231, play whichever one you like and the results will be about the same. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 FM 21.4 ME BLUE MATTER 433 P102 CC FM21.4BLUEMATTERKnap433P102CC.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 FM 21.4 ME WARRIOR 442 PF CHELSEA P95 FA FM21.4WARRIORKnap4442PPFCHELSEAP95FA.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 6 hours ago, TONY1969 said: Not bad in Four Seasons how come i cantsee it on here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hGvdjZyrowqiMrDh9_GjVxEOpQ1AsuUk-LvwdrAIJX4/edit#gid=0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 @cragswfc Should ve on 21.3 ME Tab Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 FM 21.4 ME WARRIOR 42 AF CHELSEA P99 ALL CUPS FM21.4WARRIORKnap4442AFCHELSEAP99ALLCUPS.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drhay53 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) @knap looking to combine a 451 with a flat back 4 with the Parisienne for tough European games. It looks like the only 2 with the flat back 4 are HGF P99 and Preachin Blues P103. The preachin blues is a pretty big departure from the Parisienne, with IWB's and IF-A. The HGF is doable but has the IF-s, WB-A, and PF which players won't be fluid in switching from the Parisienne. Wondering if a 451 with WB-S, DLP-S, BBM-S, Mez-A, W-S(or A), and AF is workable? Is the AF too isolated? Do you think you could make something work out of that? Edit: It's possible that doesn't get enough people into the box, and a different CM on attack would be better than the Mez. A CM-A for instance. Edited January 5, 2021 by drhay53 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 @drhay53 The Warrior tactic like above is a good defensive option. A solid defence around the DM position MR/L that work hard and forwards pressing their back 4. The other option is a 4141, but tat can be too negative Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drhay53 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 @knap I have a bit of a disdain for the MR/L positions, I am trying to avoid being reliant on them in any of the tactics I load up into my three slots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 @drhay53 They give a defensive option of a Milner type player or Salah/Mane type players. PREACHIN probably already has MM on AMR/. Man marking on their lowest DM may also work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobinho Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Knap could you test the kashmir4141p365 from last year? It was an insane tactic, especially as an underdog tactic in LLM. And if possible a test of the fireandwatervol24321ox would also be awesome. That was one crazy tactic last year aswell! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 @Kobinho I can test them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobinho Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) Thank you. It seems that after the latest patch a lot of the good tactics are the same as last year, if you look at @Cwiekus testing from FM20. Wouldn't be surprised if the two I mentioned performs very good. I know though, that your testing with Liverpool won't give the same picture as Cwiekus different underdog tests. Edited January 5, 2021 by Kobinho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drhay53 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 @knap surprised how well this went; I tinkered a few iterations then tested on holiday. I started with preachin blues, switched the roles and made some small changes to TIs and PIs, and tested all on holiday. I didn't see any specific MM on the preachin' tactic I started from. The main changes I made were to lower tempo, take off the offside trap, and change the roles and some PIs to suit what I'm looking for. Any improvements you'd make to this? drhay53-451.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 6, 2021 Author Share Posted January 6, 2021 @drhay53 Did not work that well on my set up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 6, 2021 Author Share Posted January 6, 2021 @Kobinho KASHMIR 4141 still works for LL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 6, 2021 Author Share Posted January 6, 2021 FM21.4 ME KASHMIR 4141 KINGSTONIAN P98 FM21.4KashmirKnap4141KINSTONIANP97.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drhay53 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 @knap bummer, thanks for taking a look Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunster Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) @knap what's your suggestion for underdog (CA 120-130) in one of the top leagues? I tried 442 Warrior but it performed...quite poorly. Team was relegated after promotion, I didn't expect to win the league but thought I would at least be able to get to a mid table finish. Defense just opens up, probably players are just too young + poor CA for even it to work even though it tested so well as an underdog on FM base. Are there any formations you recommend that you think will perform better with 120-30 CA players?? Edited January 6, 2021 by Gunster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
longruoi1 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gunster said: @knap what's your suggestion for underdog (CA 120-130) in one of the top leagues? I tried 442 Warrior but it performed...quite poorly. Team was relegated after promotion, I didn't expect to win the league but thought I would at least be able to get to a mid table finish. Defense just opens up, probably players are just too young + poor CA for even it to work even though it tested so well as an underdog on FM base. Are there any formations you recommend that you think will perform better with 120-30 CA players?? Sometimes tactics do not work whatsoever, and you needs other inputs like holding a team meeting to encourage your team and put things back on track. Pro tip: if you have a bad result after a winning streak, hold a meeting and praise the team, works all time for me. Edited January 6, 2021 by longruoi1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KERMIT17 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 which of the many 442 recommended for an L2 club? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
radetzky Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) i did some half season holiday test (until 09-01-2021)with West Ham Transfer in - Selmani - Almada - Wolff Eikrem / Transfer out - NO Asked the ass.manager to keep the selected line up Edited January 6, 2021 by radetzky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dywan Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Hi, someone tested tactics under ManUtd witch one is the best home and away? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 6, 2021 Author Share Posted January 6, 2021 @Gunster It has become more and more difficult each year to find players suitable for league above. IMO it is utterly unrealistic. I've had quality players leave and the end up in a lower league on less wages. You can d a quick check with GS to see if your team can compete. The KASHMIR 4141 did well with KINGSTONIAN and should be a solid formation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 6, 2021 Author Share Posted January 6, 2021 @radetzky We noticed last year with the French underdog tests that there is likely to be a bad rng result in 3 tests. We decided to drop a bad rng result when looking at which tactic works. Freezing morale may avoid getting bad rng results. Good tip from @longruoi1 which should help in maintaining morale and getting bad rng. Venom looks to have had best results Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreed Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Has anyone tried the blue matter 433 that knap posted on this page? Love a 433 so will probably try it after work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 6, 2021 Author Share Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) FM 21.4 ME KASHMIR 433 MU P100 ALL CUPS FM21.4KashmirspKnap433MUP100ALLCUPS.fmf Last years P110 with WBs moved back Edited January 6, 2021 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
radetzky Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) 3 ore fa, knap ha scritto: @radetzky We noticed last year with the French underdog tests that there is likely to be a bad rng result in 3 tests. We decided to drop a bad rng result when looking at which tactic works. Freezing morale may avoid getting bad rng results. Good tip from @longruoi1 which should help in maintaining morale and getting bad rng. Venom looks to have had best results My aim was to test a certain number of tactics that seems to be the best ones around. I will run more test for each tactics in the next days / week. RNG is part of the game, when you play a normal save players are upset, uhnappy or there are players sent off, opposite goalkeepers doing miracles and so on. Meanwhile i' have tested FM21.4WARRIORKnap4442AFCHELSEAP99ALLCUPS - 17P - 11-3-3 44F 22A - 36PT 4th FM21.4WARRIORKnap4442AFCHELSEAP99ALLCUPS - 16P – 10-1-5 34F 22A - 31PT 4th FM21.4WARRIORKnap4442AFCHELSEAP99ALLCUPS - 16P – 10-5-1 37F 20A - 32PT 4th in this case the test was stable. 99 pt and all cups with Chelsea are a very good business card. Indeed i'am using Vernom&Faith 41212 in my save, I'm managing Sheffield Utd in first season and most of the times i am starting the matches with cautious mentality then i switch to positive if needed. It's working great. I have read about FM20 tactics still working on FM21, I had one of most amazing careers of ever when i have come across your FM2044PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB41221OXFORDVOL2CP378(197-181)P378. I really enjoyed, so much that i have kept on my laptop FM20 (normally i clear the old version when the new one is out). Therefore i am going to test in on FM21 to see if it's still working Edited January 6, 2021 by radetzky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlo Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Can't seem to find the classic BEOWULF 442 with two AF's. Is that because the version with CFsu and Poacher works better? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 6, 2021 Author Share Posted January 6, 2021 @Karlo It was in 21.3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvingoh Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Hello Knap, KASHMIR 433 MU P100 ALL CUPS Wrong attachment, able to re-upload again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamieac Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) Hey @knap Since strikerless seems so effective on the latest patch, you have any plans on recreating a tactic you had for one of the older FMs when strikerless was king. I think it was either FM16 or 17. it was a 3-4-3-0 Strikerless, wingbacks with 3 SS upfront. Also think you had a version with AP-AM-SS. It was a beast, Wish I could find it but it was on an older pc I had. Sorry if you have already have made this somewhere but I didn't see it anywhere. Edited January 6, 2021 by Jamieac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY1969 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 On 05/01/2021 at 14:49, Jamieac said: You use the original and just tweak the midfielder? Or was this a tactic already posted in here? I use the original Home and Away, I can nothing in tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 6, 2021 Author Share Posted January 6, 2021 @Jamieac FM 17 was before LOE so I doubt they will ever play like in FM17. There should be a ARGUS 3430 Tactic. May try a GOODBYE 3430. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 6, 2021 Author Share Posted January 6, 2021 FM 21.4 GALLOWS POLE 4321 OX P103 FA FM21.4GALLOWSPOLEKnap4321OXP103FA.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 6, 2021 Author Share Posted January 6, 2021 FM 21.4 ME WARRIOR 442 PF CHELSEA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovinho Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Hey Knap, is there any tactic for poor Barcelona? Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossyboss Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Hi @knap What tactic is the best at the moment? Cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAFC_Dugout Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Karlo said: Can't seem to find the classic BEOWULF 442 with two AF's. Is that because the version with CFsu and Poacher works better? FM21.4BEOWULFKnap442P100ALLCUPS.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenjamin Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Any new 3-5-2 or variations of that @knap? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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