FM Base Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Filrom said: Already a month is close)))) What is the accuracy of testing on FM-Base? Hi, I can't speak for Knap, but we use the same testing format as Mr L with a couple of tweaks. It's proven accurate in my own experience, but alas, I'm sure we will need a couple of years to truly build a solid reputation. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 21, 2019 Author Share Posted December 21, 2019 I have been looking at MR L test results today, so the system is up and running. The problem with FM Base is I can't see the home and away results. A key recommendation is a good away tactic with and underdog would be a good defensive tactic. The current recommendations are based on FM Base test, it is just I would prefer more detail. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel777 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 8 hours ago, Ivoensousa said: Hi there @Samuel777. Excelent result! Are you playing with the new update (20.2.3) already? Yeah. The result is on the latest patch. Tip: If ever you are 1 man down, switch to Sicilian 4222 with only 1 PF and you should be able to grind a result. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenKo Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Knap, hi. I'm your fan since 2016 fm. Can i ask you? I've tried all your tactics this year. The problem is that first season my team performs great, then - very bad. I got to high division, and it was very bad. Can i ask you about tactics for very underdog? I play in russian division. Maybe you can say us, your fans, what is the best tactic in Mr L testing league? I very wait Mr L testing. Thanks a lot! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lo1313 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Samuel777 said: Yeah. The result is on the latest patch. Tip: If ever you are 1 man down, switch to Sicilian 4222 with only 1 PF and you should be able to grind a result. Which tactic is this and where can i download it please? Would you recommend it for underdogs playing away @Samuel777 ? Edited December 21, 2019 by lo1313 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 21, 2019 Author Share Posted December 21, 2019 The best underdog tactics per FM base are Sicilian P101 and FM 20.2 Norther Soul The other tactics that may work are FM 20.2 Stargazing 442 of FM 20 Wulf 4132 P102ECCC. SI have made it harder each year to acquire quality players so squad may be weaker than in previous years. It is up to you if you if you want to handle touchline instructions, but I prevent these and OIs by taking responsibility for them in testing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phyr Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 6 hours ago, FM Base said: I apologise to you for not doing more. We're still currently investigating potential new alt accounts and we're also waiting to see what action SI take. I'm hoping TFF will produce a better apology in the coming days, but you're absolutely right about the state of his current one. We let it be because he's kind of made his own bed there... He's spitting in your face after you decided not to ban him with that whole it's my family thing. It's not about whether or not he produces a better apology, it's about you as the admin of a community holding your members accountable for their actions. The ends do not justify the means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) Come on now, let them have some time to deal with the matter. Just because something hasn`t happened yet don`t mean it won`t. The end result might still be the same. Edited December 22, 2019 by Rober82 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM Base Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, Phyr said: He's spitting in your face after you decided not to ban him with that whole it's my family thing. It's not about whether or not he produces a better apology, it's about you as the admin of a community holding your members accountable for their actions. The ends do not justify the means. We have been very transparent. There's no underlying reason for not banning ASAP and we're not protecting anyone. It's simply a case that we're still investigating, and whilst we wanted to be transparent from the beginning, the investigation won't be complete within a day. We're dealing with something that has been ongoing for years. I'd encourage you to give us a chance to resolve it on our own time, after all, running FM Base is our passion, but it is also only a hobby for us and sometimes it feels like we're constantly learning as we go. If we ban him, we're losing a dialogue between him, us and the community during our investigation. Would prefer to discuss privately or on the dedicated thread over on FM Base rather than derail Knap's tactic feedback thread further. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crew2 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 hours ago, knap said: The best underdog tactics per FM base are Sicilian P101 and FM 20.2 Norther Soul The other tactics that may work are FM 20.2 Stargazing 442 of FM 20 Wulf 4132 P102ECCC. SI have made it harder each year to acquire quality players so squad may be weaker than in previous years. It is up to you if you if you want to handle touchline instructions, but I prevent these and OIs by taking responsibility for them in testing What would you say is the best tactic to get a high scoring front 2 or 3 specifically Knap? For example playing as Liverpool to get Salah, Mane and Firmino scoring? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 Sicilian was surprisingly high scoring but I would use the P107 442. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 Probably best to keep to tactics for time being. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lo1313 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 hours ago, knap said: The best underdog tactics per FM base are Sicilian P101 and FM 20.2 Norther Soul The other tactics that may work are FM 20.2 Stargazing 442 of FM 20 Wulf 4132 P102ECCC. SI have made it harder each year to acquire quality players so squad may be weaker than in previous years. It is up to you if you if you want to handle touchline instructions, but I prevent these and OIs by taking responsibility for them in testing Thanks for the advice @knap and al the work you do! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitoco77 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 3 hours ago, FM Base said: We have been very transparent. There's no underlying reason for not banning ASAP and we're not protecting anyone. It's simply a case that we're still investigating, and whilst we wanted to be transparent from the beginning, the investigation won't be complete within a day. We're dealing with something that has been ongoing for years. I'd encourage you to give us a chance to resolve it on our own time, after all, running FM Base is our passion, but it is also only a hobby for us and sometimes it feels like we're constantly learning as we go. If we ban him, we're losing a dialogue between him, us and the community during our investigation. Would prefer to discuss privately or on the dedicated thread over on FM Base rather than derail Knap's tactic feedback thread further. Guys, I have been playing FM since CM2 time. I have been always searching around for tactics to play. I did make "china creation" and some other not so popular tac in older time. My conclusion to his event today: - He has been contributed alot since Day 1, however if somebody committed a crime, then he should be punished. - If the admin said he must deserve a 2nd chance, then u are running the country liked Putin or the chinese. You set the rule (in fact no rule), you can say yes or no whenever you want...... - Honestly having 7 accounts under 1 IP isn't believable, having 75 accounts is just....... - It is NOT the only website he publishes his tac. Admin you dont want to ban him because his followers may move away to other forum with him....This is just a extremely political decision - To make the scenario fair, you should ban his account and his IP address. However if he has a new name or new IP address, that would be his 2nd chance.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthomac1 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Excuse me, Mr.Knap do you have a plan to do Target man forward tactics ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stremka Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Hi knap! Who is corner/throw in taker in ddeep sicilian. Do you have Park the bus tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel777 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 9 hours ago, lo1313 said: Which tactic is this and where can i download it please? Would you recommend it for underdogs playing away @Samuel777 ? This one https://community.sigames.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=273828 For me it works away from home but you have to follow Knap's advice and recommendations because he is the tactician. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
15214336646 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) Sicilian 4222 definitely not a good away tactic for Southampton. lost so many away games. totally no defense. I guess its because Southampton's CBs and DMs are all *****, can't turn back to chase the strikers. maybe need to sign Van Dijk back. Edited December 22, 2019 by 15214336646 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 17 hours ago, knap said: This is a serious misdemeanor and a half hearted apology https://fm-base.co.uk/threads/psa-multiple-accounts-includes-apology-from-tff.161989/ Okay. Knap, get off your high horse. Lets not forget, i shared a successful 4141 earlier this series of FM and YOU accused me of using your tactic as a base on my thread. Being completely false, backed with no evidence, though i asked you to provide it multiple times, you were allowed to do this with no consequence. That could've left a negative mark on my thread if people chose to believe you. you, as a creator, went out of your way to comment something negative on another creators thread claiming something that someone else created as work of your own is a misdemeanour also. i didn't want to comment on your thread, but i can't sit here and just let you say stuff like you have done no wrong too. Creators should show support of other creators, if you have a issue, you should first message the creator personally. TFF is a great creator of tactics, and so are you! this is your thread and understand that your free to express your opinions. But you are very popular here, and you know full well if you say something negative about someone, it'll be damaging to them because of the support you have. Continue to make great tactics. Creators shouldn't be against other creators. The motive should be to help others Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinSw6 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Knap, have you tried unticking the "play offside" and see if it will help with the ball over the top? For me, dropping DL doesn't help.. The AI still keeps pinging bombs behind my def.. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law_Man Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, kevinSw6 said: Knap, have you tried unticking the "play offside" and see if it will help with the ball over the top? For me, dropping DL doesn't help.. The AI still keeps pinging bombs behind my def.. Thanks This is a really good thought/question and hopefully Knap will have an answer/ have already tested or if not hopefully he will test it. I'm still not exactly sure what in the FM 2020 terms play offside does - for me it only seems to work either by accident (i.e. where the play pin balls and the SC just doesn't get back quick enough and is a mile offside) or for obvious through balls from midfield/wings. But the main problem are the long balls from full backs and DCs just sailing over the top of even a low DL and the DCs being oblivious to see it coming so don't step up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammalc Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 This thread is seriously getting too diluted to follow , barely able to see who's replying to what sub thread there are that many. All this FM Base nonsense IMHO shouldn't even be in this group let alone this thread , it was only ever going to end in disaster when it started and now been proven . If anyone has been following the subplots going on with fake accounts and rival groups can Knap or anyone say which they believe to be the best current tactic ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel777 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 @Ivoensousa 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel777 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 77 goals from 46 apps. Who can beat this?? Next season's objective- 100 goals 😉 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 I have been trying with no offside and a NIKE defence. There is also a deep DL defence tactic, but the problem is for some teams the risk of a high line is better and others need to drop off/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 A few test results puts the order as follows (Excludes new tactics) FM 20.2 SICILIAN 4222 P101 FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222 FM 20 ARGUS 352 FM 20 WULF 4132 (FM 19 P112) P106 FM 20 SICILIAN 4222 P98 FM 20.1 FM 20 WULF 4141 FM 20 SYMPATHY 442 FM 20 TEQUILA SUNRISE FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222 VOL 2 BEOWULF 442 P107 FM 20 NORTHERN SOUL 5-3-2 FM 20.2 WULF 4132 FM 20.2 WULF VOL 42220 FM 20.2 NORTHERN SOUL FM 20.2 PILGRIMAGE 41221 OXFORD BLUE MATTER 433 DM 451 BLUE MATTER 433 4231 WULF 424 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammalc Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Thanks Knap , i must have tried 4 different ones thinking they were top of your list and the last one isn't even on the list lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 I had about 5 test results from MR L Testing yesterday but there still appears to be a glitch in the system. Hopefully this can be sorted quickly. Also Liam has assured me that there will be more detail available with the FM Base test. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavetroN Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 hey knap, which do you think is the best tactic for thel leicester city Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 Any of the recommended and I've had success wit Tequila with sub top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagabunda Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 On 15/12/2019 at 16:17, knap said: I've put the milan tactic in for testing. How did the testing go? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 I've not seen anything, but there was a delay because FRMTE needs to be updated after a hotfix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dywan Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) Which of your tactics do you recommend for Borussia Dortmund? Edited January 14, 2020 by dywan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandersson Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Samuel777 said: 77 goals from 46 apps. Who can beat this?? Next season's objective- 100 goals 😉 Impressive! I think I should try this again when I have better strikers, tested a bit with Fiorentina and my striker (Pedro) struggled to get chances. Maybe fast strikers work better. Do you use wrong-footed wingers? I need this type of numbers in my game ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 Depends how you want to use the tactics from recommended list The P107 442 is more exciting and does well with Spurs and Arsenal or could be used as a Home tactic Sicilian and Sympathy are the best tested tactics on FM Base. Argus and Northern Soul have 3 at back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sicaron Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 @knap do you plan to have a 4411 for the latest ME? in my recent tests i noticed it's very effective with the latest ME Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 I am testing a 4231 and 4411 atm 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 hours ago, knap said: A few test results puts the order as follows (Excludes new tactics) FM 20.2 SICILIAN 4222 P101 FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222 FM 20 ARGUS 352 FM 20 WULF 4132 (FM 19 P112) P106 FM 20 SICILIAN 4222 P98 FM 20.1 FM 20 WULF 4141 FM 20 SYMPATHY 442 FM 20 TEQUILA SUNRISE FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222 VOL 2 BEOWULF 442 P107 FM 20 NORTHERN SOUL 5-3-2 FM 20.2 WULF 4132 FM 20.2 WULF VOL 42220 FM 20.2 NORTHERN SOUL FM 20.2 PILGRIMAGE 41221 OXFORD BLUE MATTER 433 DM 451 BLUE MATTER 433 4231 WULF 424 Is that recommended list or not quite? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 Those in bold (was green) are recommended 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theradon Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, dywan said: You are my number one now after what did tff... I don't know how I could be fooled. I always doubted your tactics, I always put them in the background, I'm sorry man Which of your tactics do you recommend for Borussia Dortmund? From now on I will always be with your tactics - good that you are! <3 sorry for bad eng... With Dortmund I had success with Sympathy for the Devil (the original one) & with the spirit of 99. But against teams like Liverpool who were stronger then me I used Silician. Won the league and the CL but lost in the cup finale against schalke... In the second season I'll try argus now I think Edited December 22, 2019 by Theradon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hakim82903 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Guys I know this might be a noob question but how do you simulate a whole season quickly? You go on holiday right but it goes through every single day on the calender which is time consuming Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) FM 20.2 Tactics NEW TACTICS FM 20.2.3 442 DEEP DL P100 FM20.2.2WULF442PFIWDLKnapP100.fmf FM 20.2 STARGAZING 442 P106 FM20.2STARGAZING442PFPWMSPKnapP1106ECFA.fmf45.03 kB · 911 downloads FM 20.2 STARGAZING 4231 P95 FM20.2STARGAZINGKnap 4231P95.fmf44.8 kB · 768 downloads FM20.2 SICILIAN P101 FM20.2SICILIAN442DLKnapP101ALLCUPS.fmf45.11 kB · 437 downloads OXFORD 41221 FM20.2PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB41221OXFORDMUP86PL.fmf45.1 kB · 882 downloads BEOWULF 442 P107 FM20.2BEOWULF442WAFKnapP107ALLCUPS.fmf44.84 kB · 1,276 downloads WULF 4132 P106 FM20.2WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSFM20.2P106ECCC.fmf45.23 kB · 879 downloads NORTHERN SOUL 532 P101 FM20.2NorthernSoulMRHKnap5-3-2P101CC.fmf45.36 kB · 872 downloads FM 20.1 Tactics RECOMMENDED LIST WULF 4132 WULF P102 (Top Sub top underdog) FM20WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSFM20P102ECCC.fmf45.22 kB · 522 downl 4132 WULF ALL CUPS P102 (Top Sub top underdog) FM20WULF4132PFDMIWBAPDLPKnapP102ALLCUPS.fmf45.19 kB · 406 downloadsoads 4141 P103 (top sub top underdog) FM20.1WULF4141SPKnapP106ECCCKINGP107_SOLOUNAMIGOP104KINGP104FM20P99ECFAATTACKP103.fmf45.19 kB · 742 downloads 442 P102 FM20WULF442PFPWMKnapP110ECCCFM20P102ECCC.fmf44.85 kB · 553 downloads 4132 TEQUILA SUNRISE TH 93 Sub Top FM20Tequilasunrise442.knaplassTHP93EC.fmf44.98 kB · 152 downloads 442 DM SICILIAN DEFENCE P98 FM20SICILIAN442PFDMIWBSPKnapP98ALLCUPS.fmf45.09 kB · 252 downloads ARGUS 352 P103 EC CC FM204ARGUSknap352P103ECCC.fmf43.17 kB · 263 downloads BLUE MATTER 433 DM P98 (Top) FM20BLUEMATTER433DMKnapP108ECCC451IWFM20P102P98.fmf43.7 kB · 59 downloads BLUE MATTER 433 P105 (Top) FM20BLUEMATTER433KnapP105FACC.fmf43.28 kB · 372 downloads SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL 442 Sympathy for the Devil P103 (Top Sub top underdog) FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipvol2442P103ECCC.fmf45.01 kB · 39 downloads 442 (4222) Sympathy for the Devil (Top sub top underdog) FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzig.fmf44. 442 Vol (4222) Sympathy for the Devil Vol 2 (Top Sub Top ) FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzigvol2.fmf44.91 kB · 957 downloads 442 (4222) Sympathy for the Devil (Top sub top underdog) FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzig.fmf44.88 kB · 812 downloads 4132 Sympathy for the Devil P103 FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaip4132P102ECFA.fmf45.04 kB · 144 downloads 4132 Sympathy for the Devil TH Version FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipvol24132P97ECFATHP91.fmf45.04 kB · 95 downloads 4132 GOODBYE P101 FM20GOODBYE4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP101.fmf45.17 kB · 284 downloads BLUE MATTER 451 P98 FM20BLUEMATTER433DMKnapP108ECCC451IWFM20P102P98.fmf43.7 kB · 76 downloads WULF 424 (Top Teams) MU Lpool P103 !!!!!!!!!!FM19.3.5BEOWULF424IFKnapP108ECCCKINGP101FM20P103.fmf44.71 kB · 215 downloads 442 (sub top) Bayer 04 19.3.4WULF442PFPWMKnapP112ECFAFM20P97ALLCUPS53.fmf44.89 kB · 107 downloads WULF 4141 FM205WULF4141SPKnapP101ECFACC.fmf45.1 kB · 381 downloads WULF 4231 P102 ECCC FM20WULFKnap4231NEP102ECCC.fmf44.71 kB · 383 downloads 41311 Leeds FM20 PILGRIMAGE41311 leftbKnapKonP52.fmf45.16 kB · 31 downloads Edited December 22, 2019 by knap 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 FMT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyes92300 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 29 minutes ago, knap said: FMT 433 ? plz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 BLUE MATTER 433 on list Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyes92300 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, knap said: BLUE MATTER 433 on list where ? For 20.2 plz ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmkdfw Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 My first game with new WULF442. Thank you knap 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 I don't think the ME has changed that much just got a lot harder. The testing league shows how much tactics dropped between updates and no tactic so far has been as good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Yeah but its kind of boring if the best results only will come with 2 DMC, and a MR/ML. Also Pressing forwards looks a must. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivoensousa Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Samuel777 said: 77 goals from 46 apps. Who can beat this?? Next season's objective- 100 goals 😉 Excelent work mate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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