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12 hours ago, knap said:

A few test results puts the order as follows

WULF 4132 (FM 19 P112)

SYMPATHY 442

SYMPATHY 4222

WULF 442

WULF 424

SYMPATHY 4222 VOL 2

 

 

 

Hey, @knap, for 'WULF 4132 (FM 19 P112)' you intend this tactic: 

P112 ALL CUPS NO LOSS (Top Sub and under) (recommended for LL)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSS.fmf 45.32 kB · 116 downloads

 

or this

WULF

4132 WULF P102 (Top Sub top underdog)

FM20WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSFM20P102ECCC.fmf45.22 kB 

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34 minutes ago, knap said:

All position have hard tackle so not an issue. As long as green for position  although you can play Salah and Mane in that position.

 

Should I preferably scout and sign players that are already natural or greenish in the roles of the tactic?

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For testing all done by AM although you can train roles or positions. The most awkward over the years was in FM 17 and training Kane to be a SS, as it took a season. There are a few training tips in thread.

Only Green for position not role . If you have a talented AML then train for ML.

When you look at MR/L roles the players show as not suitable. When you look at instructions for DW and AML the PIs can be same. So for Zaha he can play both AMR and MR

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Another fantastic result with 442 Sympathy for the Devil P103

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By the way I am using 3 sets of tactic and  442 Sympathy for the Devil P103 I use in ECL and want to say it gives very good results especially against  4-2-3-1like Napoli game. 

Another I use is WULF 4231 P102 ECCC  and this one has good results against 4-3-3. This also has very good defensive record I just conceded 5 goals in 22 games

When i need to score i use 4-3-3 with 3 strikers.

 

 

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In these tactics are strikers the main goalscorers? Is there a tactic that stands out in terms of goals scored by a striker?
And in the multiple striker tactics, does it even matter which side they play in relation to their right-left foot strength? With this ME I'm seeing a lot of goals scored by the outside foot and not cutting inside (right foot goal from right side and vice versa)

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Well, footballl bloody hell. Lecce, the worst team in the league has done it.

For me i dont think i could have done this with the 4132. I had that one at Bremen, a much better team and did about the same. Sympathy VOL2 used.

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Sympathy vol 2 was set up as an underdog tactic, but did not do well in FM Base underdog test. It also smashed MR H test league. It therefore raises questions about the testing. It has also been double checked for me.

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2 minutes ago, knap said:

Sympathy vol 2 was set up as an underdog tactic, but did not do well in FM Base underdog test. It also smashed MR H test league. It therefore raises questions about the testing. It has also been double checked for me.

can u link to testing league?

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4 minutes ago, knap said:

It therefore raises questions about the testing.

What questions do you reckon?

I will try the same with the PL team exp to finish last now. The only thing i did was switch to positive mentality when facing some weak teams in my home, as somehow attacking lead to some 0-0 draws in another test.

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4 minutes ago, knap said:

FM Base

You can probably switch to balanced - the reason is that you look after ball better.

Ah ok. Well im not saying its amazing, im just saying i got it to work a lot over expectations.
I`ll try it one more time in the PL with poorest team. If you try left foot on right wing and right on left it doesnt work nearly as good, a bit strange since its inverted winger.
Does concede a lot if you dont have great defenders. But you score more.
I actually beat Juventus 7-5.. :)

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Tested both Sympathy Vol 2 and the 4231 for one whole season each with Tottenham. Sympathy did better but both got me in top 4 but nowhere near winning the league.

~80 points both, lots of draws. Both times with transfers(Dybala, Pogba, Ruben Dias, Ajer) :/ I don't  know how you people are winning so much. I get destroyed by "bigger teams" like Man City, Liverpool, etc and draw plenty with low tier teams.

Winning PL with Tottenham seems impossible in the first season.

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I want to watch every game so a tactic that uses instant results doesnt bring me any joy. I just give Sympathy v2 a chance with 2. Bundesliga Club VfB Stuttgart and until now its doing well. But i would love a tactic with two strikers, AML AMC AMR one DM and FBL two CB and FBR which is working with nice gameplay but nothing found until now.

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Good ebenin.

Im on my way with a new test of Sympathy vol 2, this time expected 20th placed Sheffield United.
Started with a 2-0 win over Wolves away, and then this beauty.
Signed a left back, as had only one. 2 right midfielders as the squad had none, and a younger defender.
But mostly the team is unchanged.

 

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M 20 Tactics

NEW TACTICS

WULF 4141

FM205WULF4141SPKnapP101ECFACC.fmf

ARGUS 352 P103 EC CC

FM204ARGUSknap352P103ECCC.fmf43.17 kB · 263 downloads

WULF 4231 P102 ECCC

FM20WULFKnap4231NEP102ECCC.fmf44.71 kB · 383 downloads

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4132 WULF P102 (Top Sub top underdog)

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4141 P103 (top sub top underdog)

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442 P102

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4132 TEQUILA SUNRISE TH 93 Sub Top

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442 DM SICILIAN DEFENCE P98

FM20SICILIAN442PFDMIWBSPKnapP98ALLCUPS.fmf45.09 kB · 252 downloads

 

BLUE MATTER 433 P105 (Top)

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442 Sympathy for the Devil P103 (Top Sub top underdog) 

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442 (4222) Sympathy for the Devil (Top sub top underdog)

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442 Vol (4222) Sympathy for the Devil Vol 2 (Top Sub Top )

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442 (4222) Sympathy for the Devil (Top sub top underdog)

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4132 Sympathy for the Devil P103

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4132 Sympathy for the Devil TH Version

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4132 GOODBYE P101

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BLUE MATTER 451 P98

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WULF 424 (Top Teams) MU Lpool P103

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442 (sub top) Bayer 04

19.3.4WULF442PFPWMKnapP112ECFAFM20P97ALLCUPS53.fmf44.89 kB · 107 downloads

41311 Leeds

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7 hours ago, stefancatalinptu said:

Tested both Sympathy Vol 2 and the 4231 for one whole season each with Tottenham. Sympathy did better but both got me in top 4 but nowhere near winning the league.

~80 points both, lots of draws. Both times with transfers(Dybala, Pogba, Ruben Dias, Ajer) :/ I don't  know how you people are winning so much. I get destroyed by "bigger teams" like Man City, Liverpool, etc and draw plenty with low tier teams.

Winning PL with Tottenham seems impossible in the first season.

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