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19 hours ago, Karlo said:

Try removing PI's.

I removed all PI's on TIME451 and tweaked it a little bit. I now have IWsu on the right and IFat on the left, and they both perform really well, also rating-wise. 

Can you upload your tactics file please.

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4 hours ago, madhatter75 said:

Is that tactic for underdogs? I ask because I took one year more than you to get Stockport County to the PL and consistently just stuck in 5th/6th so looking to take that extra leap. In 2033 so squad is new gens but got some quality. Still doesn’t seem to make a difference. I’m using Echoes 4231 currently. 

It got me to the prem and to a 4th place finish. I found it conceded to many goals though so i changed to ECHOES TH92 now im second 12 poins clear of 3rd and joint with Liverpool in first

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Not sure you could win PL with just DOF transfers. Only started to improve position when asked for training facilities can be improved.


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@knaphow would I go about filtering the Google sheet so it only shows team suitable for under dogs?

I am playing as Huesca in La Liga and was wondering if they’d be a more suitable 4-5-1 formation than the latest one I’m using. Preferably one that gets my striker scoring more.

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Sort the underdog column. The lower league test tactics are perennial underdogs climbing leagues. ECHOES 4231 or 451

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Hallo Knap from Greece a devoted fan of yours here✌️✌️✌️... I want to try a 4.4.2 formation with Leeds which is your recommendation... I started with echoes 92 was going well at first then as usually i wanted to go with 4.4.2 as all my fm managers... I tried beowulf 21.5 but conceded a lot of goals in 2 games... Is warriors p110 still working or try something else? 

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DULWICH 1at PL Season - ECHOES 451 (Only DOF Transfer_



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On 04/04/2021 at 15:14, mickyt11 said:

Seriously, has anyone  been able to have any success with Spurs? I can't find anything realistic enough for them at all

id strongly recommend you try this tactic. I found this online which seems to be the one he is using and he scored 124 team goals in 24 pl games. Yes he has both Haaland and Mbappe but he was smashing teams for 6 even before he bought those players

VOID _ ver. 2.0 _.fmf

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14 hours ago, knap said:



Sort the underdog column. The lower league test tactics are perennial underdogs climbing leagues. ECHOES 4231 or 451

Thank you man,

Just by luck, It turned out I am using the best tactic for under dog sides that fits in with my 4-2-3-1 idea.

Keep up the good work!

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13 hours ago, playbroken said:

Mutlaka deneyeceğim dortmunda çok iyi kadro kurdum taktik oturtamadım admine de taktik soruyorum galiba tam anlamadı beni

google docs'ta bir sürü taktik var hocam sıralayın ordanda bulursunuz.

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On 4/17/2021 at 10:06 AM, Martinho said:

@Macgreg best 2 striker tactic for me is the darkside of the moon IWB (attached, only tweeks are to attacking and defending corners and attacking throw ins). It seems to essentially be the top tested pilgrimage 433 but with the SS pushed up and used as AF. Used this tactic for 2 full seasons - With Mbappe and Haaland as the AFs, Mbabbe has 147 goals and Haaland 94. Lost only 3 league games in the 2 seasons, drew 3, won all others. 8 trophies.

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Just ask for an invite


Weighted attributes Pdf

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Filters from The Prof

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You can use results in a few ways.

Top covers say top 5 Clubs in Division Mid the next 7 and then under dog.

Just use totals as an all round tactic.

Use best top at home and best underdog away or difficult games.

You can mix and match with your preferred formations.

It is just a guide to help identify right tactic.


With regard to Away games it depends upon your own risk factor. I am gung ho and prefer to attack and perhaps win 1 game in 3. If isk adverse then use a defensive tactic and perhaps draw all 3 games.

As a defensive formation I would use 4141 as it has a DM and protects wings, and KINGSTONIAN 4141 would be my choice.

I use 3 DLs std higher much higher. If AI are going for balls over top then std but if AI attacking you can leave at higher ormuch higher. 

The LOE can be adjusted with or without DL adjustments. The simple answer is just drop LOE..

I use Cautious positive and attacking mentalities.

For a SUS these are ideas to use.

Use 4141 formation

Remove pass into space

Stop WB runs by go

ing to defend or no nonsense FB

Use Defend on DM or most defensive MC

Change mentality Positive/cautious

Add Time wasting

Change from counter press and counter and full SUS would be to regroup and hold shape

I tend to judge what to use by how the game is progressing as you may just to want to control game rather than a full SU


Calm Down (win by 1 goal diff) -

Praise (win by 2 goal diff) -

Berate (loss by 2 goal diff) -

Demand More (loss by 1 goal diff or draw)


(39) THE ONLY Training Schedules YOU will need for Football Manager 2021 - YouTube

MARTINHO Guide to set up for Clubs especially Newcastle



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@knapcan you recommend a tactic for Aston Villa? I was thinking beowulf 442 or warrior 442 but Villa got only one proper striker in Watkins. Any ideas? 

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