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2 minutes ago, AaronRedDevil said:

Manchester United | Season 1 Results | DARK SIDE OF THE MOON 4312 P106 EC FA Salah 75 Goals

Won both Premier Division & European Cup.

Beat Liverpool at home on last game of season to win league and beat Man City 3-0 in UCL final :)

Thoughts on tactic:

1. Very dependent on the strikers who get vast majority of goals. Suffered mid-season slump in results when they stopped performing.

2. Not that easy to build squad for formation due to need of ML & MR plus other positions

3. 2nd half of season after drop in performance I played with Positive mentality, Standard defensive line and removed "Get Stuck In"

As always, great work Knap!

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bet that final game was nerve wracking!

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@knap personally I would probably just test pretty randomly, and try to get a good mix of formations tested. That way people can play whichever formation they like. 

It's hard to say exactly what the difference is between the liverpool test and these longer tests without knowing what players are being used in the longer tests. Do they have PPMs? Is their footedness right for IF vs W for instance? All of these things are variables that will cause scatter. 

But in general, if you're looking to find the "best" tactics the fastest, the plot I made indicates that testing in descending order of Liverpool points is the most likely path.

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3 hours ago, AaronRedDevil said:

Manchester United | Season 1 Results | DARK SIDE OF THE MOON 4312 P106 EC FA Salah 75 Goals

Won both Premier Division & European Cup.

Beat Liverpool at home on last game of season to win league and beat Man City 3-0 in UCL final :)

Thoughts on tactic:

1. Very dependent on the strikers who get vast majority of goals. Suffered mid-season slump in results when they stopped performing.

2. Not that easy to build squad for formation due to need of ML & MR plus other positions

3. 2nd half of season after drop in performance I played with Positive mentality, Standard defensive line and removed "Get Stuck In"

As always, great work Knap!

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It's pretty much been my go-to tactic for FM 21, for me personally this formation outperforms all the others. The key is having very fast strikers, creative out and out wingers (right foot on right side, left on left) and good passers at every position. IWB's in particular will act as extra playmakers and play effective killer balls. I've greatly overachieved in different countries and various lower leagues using this tactic.

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8 ore fa, Par1s ha scritto:

I’m using the same formation but with IF instead of IW. I’m managing Fiorentina and I already won the CL twice. 

Using FM21.5PaeisienneWalkwaysKnapPar1s424IWP110FA and just changing IW with IF? 

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Is this happening to anyone else? I'm getting constant xGs around 3 and opponents getting xG around 0.8, but they score with every shot. They'll have 5 on target and score 4, I'll have around 14 and score 2. I've tried 21.5HolyGhostFire 451 and a few others, just constantly conceding, I was wondering if anyone else has found this on the new match engine?

My last match for example, its happening pretty much every match. How do you score 5 with an XG of 1.18? Once in a while I'd be fine with but 8 games out of 20 so far?

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1 hour ago, andre62 said:

Invincible first season with Rangers testing tactic tweak of knap just change the roles of the players

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could you upload this tactic. I like 442 tactic :)

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8 ore fa, Par1s ha scritto:

@radetzky no mate. I’m using the one with positive mentality and IF’s.

Could you tell me which one exactly? The 4231 with If's?  After having updated to 21.5  my go Tactics (vermom and Faith) seems less effective against top teams especially away and the suggested tricks (go cautious and lower the LOE) sometime works and sometimes does not works. 

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7 ore fa, ChrisCom ha scritto:

Is this happening to anyone else? I'm getting constant xGs around 3 and opponents getting xG around 0.8, but they score with every shot. They'll have 5 on target and score 4, I'll have around 14 and score 2. I've tried 21.5HolyGhostFire 451 and a few others, just constantly conceding, I was wondering if anyone else has found this on the new match engine?

My last match for example, its happening pretty much every match. How do you score 5 with an XG of 1.18? Once in a while I'd be fine with but 8 games out of 20 so far?

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You have been FM'ed... It's clear and it s common thing since last year... 

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Weighted attributes Pdf

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Filters from The Prof

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TEST RESULTS

You can use results in a few ways.

Top covers say top 5 Clubs in Division Mid the next 7 and then under dog.

Just use totals as an all round tactic.

Use best top at home and best underdog away or difficult games.

You can mix and match with your preferred formations.

It is just a guide to help identify right tactic.

AWAY GAMES SUS

With regard to Away games it depends upon your own risk factor. I am gung ho and prefer to attack and perhaps win 1 game in 3. If isk adverse then use a defensive tactic and perhaps draw all 3 games.

As a defensive formation I would use 4141 as it has a DM and protects wings, and KINGSTONIAN 4141 would be my choice.

I use 3 DLs std higher much higher. If AI are going for balls over top then std but if AI attacking you can leave at higher ormuch higher. 

The LOE can be adjusted with or without DL adjustments. The simple answer is just drop LOE..

I use Cautious positive and attacking mentalities.

For a SUS these are ideas to use.

Use 4141 formation

Remove pass into space

Stop WB runs by go

ing to defend or no nonsense FB

Use Defend on DM or most defensive MC

Change mentality Positive/cautious

Add Time wasting

Change from counter press and counter and full SUS would be to regroup and hold shape

I tend to judge what to use by how the game is progressing as you may just to want to control game rather than a full SU

SHOUTS FROM CADON

Calm Down (win by 1 goal diff) -

Praise (win by 2 goal diff) -

Berate (loss by 2 goal diff) -

Demand More (loss by 1 goal diff or draw)

 

 

RDF TRAINING SCHEDULES

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3 hours ago, radetzky said:

Could you tell me which one exactly? The 4231 with If's?  After having updated to 21.5  my go Tactics (vermom and Faith) seems less effective against top teams especially away and the suggested tricks (go cautious and lower the LOE) sometime works and sometimes does not works. 

The FM21.4ParisienneWalkwaysIF mate.

ID 214013 on knap’s google sheet.

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using the 4141 when playing tough away games seems to be working wonders. don't really want to use it at home aswell cos i find it such a boring formation. obviously fm being fm now my away results have improved i lose at home to newcastle putting an end to a 53 game unbeaten home run :D then get pumped by city a few games later. that might be because i've been using parisienne424 this season where as before i was using hgf451

home and away results below - check out the games i used 4141. have never had that success before just using 1 tactic

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Hello, everyone and Knap! I want to ask you one question... Which is the best tactic for 21.5 version for top team (Real Madrid, Liverpool, Juventus)?

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5 hours ago, agreed said:

using the 4141 when playing tough away games seems to be working wonders. don't really want to use it at home aswell cos i find it such a boring formation. obviously fm being fm now my away results have improved i lose at home to newcastle putting an end to a 53 game unbeaten home run :D then get pumped by city a few games later. that might be because i've been using parisienne424 this season where as before i was using hgf451

home and away results below - check out the games i used 4141. have never had that success before just using 1 tactic

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Which 4-1-4-1 were you using mate?

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20 hours ago, andre62 said:

Invincible first season with Rangers testing tactic tweak of knap just change the roles of the players

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This worked great for me (the one match I used it)...I was in the first knockout round of the CL having lost the away match 3-1 to Inter (I'm Espanyol).  Decided to switch to this for the home match without really having the players for it, and I'm only 3 years in the game with my top player probably being either Tonali or Loftus-Cheek and my top striker is Gnotto so kinda good but not great. And again, I really didn't have the players for this as I've been switching from a 4-3-3 to a 4-2-3-1 for most of the season.  Oh and I definitely didn't have anyone worthy of a decent target man...had to play Ruben-Loftus Cheek there and he bagged 2 goals.

Smashed Inter 4-0 to win 5-3. They only had maybe 4 shots altogether whereas I had around 20 if I remember correctly.  Small sample size and all that but well done mate, I liked it and it got me through to the CL Quarters!

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Me: Oh well this was a good run in the Champo, Barcelona in the quarters is impossible so let's just have fun

Decided I might as well try something, so put Kingstonian 4141 on and... well I think it speaks for itself. 

Our wage bill is 150k per week, theirs is 4.5m  

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