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5 minutes ago, Whufc10000 said:

I can't see it  :(

ah yeh on mine i have something below the letter C column and above the formation text. it's not on the screenshot heywood shown above. but yeh just use the down arrow next to the column letter instead :thup:

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2 hours ago, LVercetti said:

More tweaks!! 

Versions for Wingers and Inside Forwards depending what suits your team. 

Arsenal won the double at least with both tactics! 

Tests with Arsenal for sub top and elite with Liverpool. 

Really happy with the results, thanks @knap for testing with Liverpool. 

Please let me know any feedback if you test. I will provide player traits if tested. 

These work on the latest match engine!!!

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Interesting stuff. Looks like the two centre midfielders struggle for decent ratings?

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24 minutes ago, gooders11 said:

Interesting stuff. Looks like the two centre midfielders struggle for decent ratings?

Yeahh seemed to work well for the more attacking players. In the other test with Salzburg where i actually play the games Szoboszlai got one of the best average ratings, but thats helped by his quality.  

 

The striker appeared to do really well in all tests  987990817_Salzburg4231S.thumb.PNG.5207977395ef3a65fd3ff21fa1024e24.PNG

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Holy Ghost Fire 451 Test with Wolves (made 4 signings Tah, Freuler, De Paul, Boga) Media prediction 7th

Won EPL and FA Cup 

No matter which team I try this tactic over-performs always!

 

PS. Had to play the whole season with Ruddy coz Rui Patricio had an 8 month injury lol

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1 ora fa, anatolycastella ha scritto:

Holy Ghost Fire 451 Test with Wolves (made 4 signings Tah, Freuler, De Paul, Boga) Media prediction 7th

Won EPL and FA Cup 

No matter which team I try this tactic over-performs always!

 

PS. Had to play the whole season with Ruddy coz Rui Patricio had an 8 month injury lol

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Holiday mode i guess?  How many goals have you scored in premier League? 

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Having tried many tactics, I still find wide 4312/4132 the most effective formation. Undefeated season with 4312 HGF in Italian Serie C.

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I decided to replicate Sir Alex Ferguson's tactic season 2007/2008 by changing the roles of the players in the Beowulf knap tactic and the result was this

 

to note that the champions league really was a failure but in compensation we won the europe league

 

I leave here the tactics file for those who want to try it

 

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442 Sir Alex Ferguson.fmf

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The KLOPP tactic above is open for discussion and change.

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5 hours ago, kandersson said:

Having tried many tactics, I still find wide 4312/4132 the most effective formation. Undefeated season with 4312 HGF in Italian Serie C.

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Which one exactly? There's about 20...

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8 hours ago, anatolycastella said:

Holy Ghost Fire 451 Test with Wolves (made 4 signings Tah, Freuler, De Paul, Boga) Media prediction 7th

Won EPL and FA Cup 

No matter which team I try this tactic over-performs always!

 

PS. Had to play the whole season with Ruddy coz Rui Patricio had an 8 month injury lol

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which version did you use? 21.4 or 21.5

 

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@hades085

Strikers will only score if they get the right service and this depends on how the tactic is put together rather than just mentality.

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8 hours ago, DOP said:

which version did you use? 21.4 or 21.5

 

21.5

The top tactic of the excel table 

@radetzky No holiday mode, I just use Instant Result except big games.

Overall is very consistent and solid defensively. I wish it could bring out a bit more of the front three in terms of GS but its very good anyways.

 

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10 hours ago, smlrch1892 said:

Which one exactly? There's about 20...

HOLY GHOST FIRE 4312 P107 FA. Though honestly most 4312 versions should work fine as they just have some TI or PI differences. For me the combination of IWB's, wingers, AMC and two strikers has been the most effective set-up, especially if you don't have elite players.

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22 minutes ago, kandersson said:

HOLY GHOST FIRE 4312 P107 FA. Though honestly most 4312 versions should work fine as they just have some TI or PI differences. For me the combination of IWB's, wingers, AMC and two strikers has been the most effective set-up, especially if you don't have elite players.

Where's the link for this one

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8 minutes ago, Woodzills said:

Where's the link for this one

Google docs link first page of this thread, you will find every knap's tactic there.

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4 hours ago, oliverdanielbeddow said:

I love these tactics, I also use the training schedules of 1 or 2 matches per week. But I am four years in and always get absolutely killed by injuries, it's almost like I need 3 players for every position. Should I downgrade my training intensity? 

Out of interest who are you managing and how are you doing? I keep switching between letting my AM do my training and using downloaded schedules. Still trying to work out which is better. Probably just me being paranoid but I'm sure it has a huge impact on results and I'm not sure if it's a positive or negative :D

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47 minutos atrás, knap disse:

@oliverdanielbeddow

 

I've added Cadoni training to my YT Channel links. May be more balanced than RDF

i'm using 4-2-4 Paris IW in this first 2 seasons and all great except i always lose in the quarter-finals of UCL.

In theory HOLYGHOST 4-5-1 would be a better choice for harder games right?

(I'm with Benfica but my team is in theory as good as any other.)

 

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Something I've been curious about as testing results have been coming in is how correlated the new testing results might be with the Liverpool results. In general, they seem to be correlated. Although the Kashmir Kingstonian and 41320 Dark Side of the Moon appear to be outliers. If you remove those, there's certainly a correlation where the better Liverpool tests are doing better in the longer test as well, although there's really still a lot of scatter. 

 

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3 minutes ago, knap said:

@drhay53

 

 

Are you into analytical reviews?

I have a PhD in astrophysics so yeah :D

In the past I have written very complex squad analysis tools for my own use. These days I'm a little less "algorithmic" and I try to play the game more naturally. But in the past I would dump all player attributes, calculate how good each player was for each position, and assign the best 22 automatically without even having to think :) I don't quite play that way anymore, as I try to make the "thinking" the fun part. 

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49 minutes ago, 8BuggieNights15 said:

I've just been using WARRIOR 442 P104 EC CC on my Sampdoria save, 3 league titles and 2 champions league wins in 5 seasons, I've tried the other top tested tactics on the google doc but always end up back with warrior.

IMO it's the best 442 around. Forward play between the 2 strikers is nice to watch as well

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@Scri76

If you go to my YT Channel there will be links to detailed vids. These will show the set up for TIs PIs SPs.

Not sure if 451 will have a detailed vid buta HGF vid will be 99% of tactic

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honestly sick of missing penalties. just lost for the first time in 29 league games because for some reason they decided world class strikers can only score 1 out of every 7 penalties

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19 hours ago, andre62 said:

I decided to replicate Sir Alex Ferguson's tactic season 2007/2008 by changing the roles of the players in the Beowulf knap tactic and the result was this

 


to note that the champions league really was a failure but in compensation we won the europe league

 


I leave here the tactics file for those who want to try it

 

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442 Sir Alex Ferguson.fmf 44.89 kB · 9 downloads

Love the look of that fella 👍

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1 minute ago, agreed said:

honestly sick of missing penalties. just lost for the first time in 29 league games because for some reason they decided world class strikers can only score 1 out of every 7 penalties

Then your PK taker sucks. You're the manager. Replace him.

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3 minutes ago, Heywood JaBlowme said:

Then your PK taker sucks. You're the manager. Replace him.

would have thought he'd score more having 19 finishing, 18 composure and 16 penalty taking. not sure them attributes mean anything though

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@Scri76

Probably not as they follow a similar theme. A 4231 would have DLP pulled back to DM and AM back to MC. 

 

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