tractor76 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Can I use the 4-2-4 for Lower League with a Top team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 All the tactics should work in LL with a good team, I tend to recommend when over 100pts rather than just promotion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aykut190726 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 hey knap I just joined you. I discovered you a month ago. Your tactics are very good ... your last tactic is 41221. the percentage of playing the ball is fine, but the goal is very smash goal less Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 The Oxford 41221 is the formation of my first tactic in FM 08, taking Oxford Utd to PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivoensousa Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Hi there @knap The tactic: !!!!!!!19.3.5BEOWULF442WAF9P103)KnapP106ALLCUPSKINGP109 stills OP or your reccomend another one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 Not seen any testing recently so the recommendations still stand as the best. I do have 442s from 3.6 but without long game tests it is difficult to say would be better just slightly different. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deviangel Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Ivoensousa said: Hi there @knap The tactic: !!!!!!!19.3.5BEOWULF442WAF9P103)KnapP106ALLCUPSKINGP109 stills OP or your reccomend another one? On my Harchester United save so far so great 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffer23 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 @knap best tactic for Everton bud Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 10, 2019 Author Share Posted October 10, 2019 Top recommended tactics 4132 with 4141 for harder games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffer23 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 4 hours ago, knap said: Top recommended tactics 4132 with 4141 for harder games. Everton just don’t suit it I’m only getting results using 41221 but I’m unsure whether to play a left footer on the right and vice versa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 10, 2019 Author Share Posted October 10, 2019 If a winger (apart from IW) left on left unless a cut inside PPM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzahutc Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 going to try darlington in vanarama north best LL tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 10, 2019 Author Share Posted October 10, 2019 I would try the recommended for LL tactics, although they should all work if you have a good LL team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsca_0606 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Recommended tactics for top team? Is the oxford one a good choice? Or better options? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 10, 2019 Author Share Posted October 10, 2019 If using a top team then the pts total and cup wins tend to indicate the best tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deviangel Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, knap said: If using a top team then the pts total and cup wins tend to indicate the best tactic. What would you recommend ? 19.3.5BEOWULF442WAF9P103 or 4132? I created a new club in serie b in place of Spezia. 442 is OK I m scoring a lot of goals...but 4132 would it be better? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 10, 2019 Author Share Posted October 10, 2019 I would not change if winning and 442s do very well with sub top in the longer tests. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aykut190726 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 hey knap I think your best tactic is 4132. Because I tried other tactics and I failed. Are there any other suggestions? for amateur teams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 My own view is the 4132 formation is the best formation to use this year, and the P112 would be my tactic of choice. The LL test team is at this level, is a team from the Dafuge Challenge so start as newly promoted. I would therefore try the recommended for LL tactics first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 Best result in LL was using the Wolves 4132 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aykut190726 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 What other tactic would you recommend for small teams? surely successful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 In past FM s I've used teams at level 10 like Frimley Green and not had a problem with any of the tactics I use with top clubs. The recommended for LL just means these tactics made over 100pts with Kingstonian, but the others should still work at that level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 This is the P112 4132 in FM 19.3.6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aykut190726 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 can you give me a link to this tactic? I have version 19.3.5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 All links in reommended list above Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 FM 19.3.6 Tested in FMT no OIs Training Press Team Talks AM !!!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.6WULF442KnapCMP108ALLCUPS.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITFCadam Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 3 hours ago, knap said: FM 19.3.6 Tested in FMT no OIs Training Press Team Talks AM !!!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.6WULF442KnapCMP108ALLCUPS.fmf 45.28 kB · 30 downloads Is this now the tactic of choice to use? Have the others been killed by the update? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) The ME is still 19.3 so the recommended tactics are still valid. The P112 was working with Kingstonian and finished season with 111pts. The latest tactic uses a more holding MC compared to the other 442s. Edited October 11, 2019 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthomac1 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Hello Mr Knap Does the tactic in 19.3.4 patch still work well with this patch ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 The ME is 19.3 so all 19.3 tactics should still work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex1234 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 I also noticed the drop in tactics efficiency on 3.6....SI is notorious for this .Knap I did read somewhere you wrote basic tactics is same but u did some modifications for 3.6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 The problem is there are many variables over a season, so a tactic that wins PL with 106 pts may only win by 96 pts if you play the exact same season again. I look for maximum potential so even with the same patch I modify tactics. I tested the Wolves 4132 in last patch with Kingstonian and made 112 pts. In this patch I used the top 4132 and made 111pts which is consistent between patches. I doubt SI would change the ME without a lot of testing between the updates as that would be a huge risk. Whether they change things like the home v away boost or other factors between updates which could make game easier or harder is a different matter. The long tests control variables and would give a better idea of any possible changes, but I am not aware of any test atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 Wolves with latest 442 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zodiacg Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 In 1936, 4132P112 seems much worse than before. I don't know for sure cause it was okay right after the update. But after a season I can barely win any matches with 4132, whether instant play or not. And 4141P106 performs great, and almost gives guranteed wins. I'm not sure if it's better than before bacause I only used it as backup tactics for away matches against strong teams. Now 4141 constantly give 4-6 goals per game, mostly by MC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsalai Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Hi Knap! What's your best tactic to date? I've not been playing for a while so am out of the loop. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 Recommended list above - latest 442 is not on list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 There may be other factors at play but can you pinpoint any particular reason why not working. https://community.sigames.com/topic/492912-does-the-game-became-harder-after-last-update/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zodiacg Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, knap said: There may be other factors at play but can you pinpoint any particular reason why not working. https://community.sigames.com/topic/492912-does-the-game-became-harder-after-last-update/ I understand that. It may have something to do with the players. I now use players that are more suitable to IWB (players with reverse foot) and DW. I know it's more about the directions but I like the green circles The most noticable change was that I sold a DR player during the winter because of salary. The DR now I use has similar CA, but higher aggression, lower tackling and strength. Both have reverse foot. Also It's the third year into PL and I used 4132 for over 2.5 years. Will AI use counter measures for my tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 I ran a number of long holiday seasons and there was nothing to indicate the tactic performed any different over 10 seasons. There re variables in game that makes a team underperform but I doubt this is due to AI tactics. What may be a problem is actually using IWB players if not two footed. The tactics are not set up with IWB players but regular WBs on the correct side. The 4132 in some of the longer test which use best player for role have underperformed other formations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOP Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 latest 442 tactic is very good. i can holiday my way to the premier league with Hendon Thanks Knap! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zodiacg Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, knap said: I ran a number of long holiday seasons and there was nothing to indicate the tactic performed any different over 10 seasons. There re variables in game that makes a team underperform but I doubt this is due to AI tactics. What may be a problem is actually using IWB players if not two footed. The tactics are not set up with IWB players but regular WBs on the correct side. The 4132 in some of the longer test which use best player for role have underperformed other formations. Thanks for the explanation. I'll try adjusting players for IWBs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinLFC Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 I had a go at some of your tactics after getting a bit bored with my Southport team. I had reached the prem but I have not reached the champions league after trying for 2 years but I have not been missing by loads. I have been basing my team around up and coming kids. I have tried 4 or 5 of your tactics but my results are all over the place and makes no sense. I have to say I was 4-0 down using 442 to Man City and scored 4 second half goals to draw 4-4. I stuck with this tactic for a while and I binned it after I lost a league cup game to some lower league team as there was no consistency. I can't work out if it's the kids I am playing or the tactic. Also if I use defensive wingers do I have to buy players that suit that role? I must admit the full backs are my weakest area of the team but it's hard to find good ones and they get caught out alot. Ps I am in the year 2027. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strikerir1 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Any good 424 it's my favorite formation and the ones I've tested are way to inconsistent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 There is a 424 or 41122 but the AM row is generally weak, compared to a 442. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aykut190726 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Hey Knap Are you doing a new tactic? for 19.3.6 I do not like 442 :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 14, 2019 Author Share Posted October 14, 2019 Not sure what formations are not covered already/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aykut190726 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 The 19.3.6 version of the game is very, very difficult ... I loved the 4132 tactic, but it also became useless. Everyone including small teams is beating. I can't do it myself. I like your tactical styles. before you said you had the 19.3.6 version of the 4132 tactic but I couldn't find it I'm sorry my english is not very good so I used google translate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 14, 2019 Author Share Posted October 14, 2019 I used the 4132 with Kingstonian in 19.3.6 and was better than in previous MEs. However it was not working as well with top teams so the P105 is a tweaked version. The other tactics I may or may not have posted but are all 19.3.6 !!!!!!!!!19.3.6WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP105ALLCUPS.fmf !!!!!!!!!19.3.6BRIGHTONROCK4132PFDMIWSPKnapP108FACC.fmf !!!!!19.3.6WULFPOACHER4411IIWPKnapP102ALLCUPS.fmf !!!!!19.3.6WULFPOACHER4411IWMPKnapP103ALLCUPS.fmf !!!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.6WULF442KnapCMHIGHP103ECFA.fmf !!!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.6WULF442KnapCMP108ALLCUPS.fmf !!!!!!!!!19.3.6WULF442PFIWBSPKnapP106FACC.fmf !!!!!!!!!19.3.6WULF4222CDPFDMIWSPKnapP106CC.fmf !!!!!!!!!!!!FM19.3.6BLUEMATTER4312KnapP102ECCC.fmf 4-2-3-1 Wide P101.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aykut190726 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Thanks you very much Knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dom.march Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Hi Knap, i don't remember what mean pilgrimage, wulf, argus and so on would you please refresh my memory ? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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