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I don' keep a detailed check on SPs, but just check that they are reasonable .If any SPs get very good results then it is a question  of working them into tactic. However. what works for 1 formation may not work so well with another. Hence, I use a variety of SPs.

The major problem is RNG as MR H tests a half season 3 times , and corners goals can vary from 2 to 12, which is a massive RNG.

Another factor is De Bruyne is very good at taking SPs so there is always the factor that the AI may be jus too good. If you see a particular problem then it could just be the team you are using and perhaps a tweak will help.

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8 hours ago, Earnie is God! said:

For my rather average Cardiff team, Kashmir doesn't do at all well away from home.

At home, it's been great: Played 6, Won 6, scored 17, conceded 3

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Away, it's been awful: Played 3, Lost 3, scored 3, conceded 10

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I didn't like it in away games right from the off so didn't use it in all of them.
At home though, can't fault it even against the big teams.

You do get a lot of bookings though, due to the 'Get Stuck In' TI and my relatively small squad has suffered.
That's probably another reason it's not that suitable for lesser teams.

In hindsight, I should never have switched from Tea 4411. The season was going great apart from a blip in Dec/Jan which prompted me to look for something else.
For my latest game, away at Villa, I switched back to it and was much happier.
Even though we lost in injury time, we had played 75+ minutes with 10 men and had taken the lead.

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Bear in mind this is only the 2nd season in the game, we are doing superbly well. Predicted to finish 15th, we have a chance of CL football next season, if I can get my suspended players back!

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I did briefly try Tequila Big Away but didn't really like it. Think I'll stick with Tea 4411 for away games.

Can you link me to the tactic you have I'm Leeds United thank you 

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3 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said:

absolutely crazy. 2nd promotion in 2 years was even EASIER! 114pts in League 1! . i have spent $0, brining in 0 players. i did sign loans. and i think i will have to make signings this year for the Championship

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Using TequilaCousin?

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24 minutes ago, knap said:

@RDF Tactics

Are you still using Instant Result?

 

 

 

Yeah. All results with instant result.

11 minutes ago, hilmz88 said:

@RDF Tactics 

 

what foot do you use on the wings mate ?

i dont have any rules. Well, my only rule is not to buy any wingers who have have a weak left or right foot. Wingers that can use both feet are more unpredictable and better at dribbling 

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40 minutes ago, knap said:

I consider atm the best 4321 OXFORD Tactics ar

MISSISSIPPI and TEA P103 and P106 All Cups

 

 

Cant seem to find them sadly. Is there a code for these tactics on the spreadsheet?

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3 minutes ago, Danny648 said:

Whats the best Instant Result skin?

Wannachup at FM Scout is the only one I’m aware of ATM. There was one at FM Base but I don’t think it’s been updated and to my knowledge no longer available.

  Might as well play Touch if you’re using IR exclusively.

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2 minutes ago, Heywood JaBlowme said:

Wannachup at FM Scout is the only one I’m aware of ATM. There was one at FM Base but I don’t think it’s been updated and to my knowledge no longer available.

  Might as well play Touch if you’re using IR exclusively.

Why’s that? No issue playing full version using IR. 

 

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10 minutes ago, Heywood JaBlowme said:

I din't say there was in issue with the skin. If someone is going full IR then it's much faster to play Touch. 

yeah but you don't get the same added features. not the same in-depth training, press conferences if you're into that stuff and many other things specially development centre. one reason why i start too use IR after a few matches is because watching matches becomes a bit repetitive, the match engine doesn't change so most of the time you're seeing the same thing. example, keeping watching your wingers run the byline and not wanting to cross...people get a bit bored having to watch that all the time 

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2 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said:

yeah but you don't get the same added features. not the same in-depth training, press conferences if you're into that stuff and many other things specially development centre. one reason why i start too use IR after a few matches is because watching matches becomes a bit repetitive, the match engine doesn't change so most of the time you're seeing the same thing. example, keeping watching your wingers run the byline and not wanting to cross...people get a bit bored having to watch that all the time 

Ive never really used IR, so will the assistant just make subs during the match or will they tinker with instructions etc? also do the outcomes of the match count towards your personal managerial stats, like manager of the month etc?

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1 minute ago, RDF Tactics said:

yeah but you don't get the same added features. not the same in-depth training, press conferences if you're into that stuff and many other things specially development centre. one reason why i start too use IR after a few matches is because watching matches becomes a bit repetitive, the match engine doesn't change so most of the time you're seeing the same thing. example, keeping watching your wingers run the byline and not wanting to cross...people get a bit bored having to watch that all the time 

I’ve mentioned this already; I was playing the full version until the latest ME release. I was playing out ALL my matches, changing tactics on the fly, shouts-everthing. But 20.4 has ruined the experience for-it’s utter crap. I can’t play out the ME in it’s current state with any enjoyment like in previous versions.
   I’m back to Touch and just taking the role of “General Manager” rather than not playing FM at all. Might not be totally realistic but it’s better than nothing.

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On 23/10/2018 at 13:30, knap said:

FM 20.4 and 20.3 me 2040  Tactics  (includes FM 20.2 Beta tactics and FM 20.2.4)

TACTIC LINKS AND TACTIC RANKINGS FROM THE INDEPENDENT TESTS (MR L & FM BASE) ARE NOW ON GOOGLE DOCS LINK BELOW

http://bit.ly/knaptactics

Because I test with top, the pts total in tactic name will give an idea of what is best for top club, Top Clubs should be able to use all of the tactics.

Elite  Club say 1-2in League (Lpool MC etc) Top  3-7 in League

Top 3-  7 in League

Good  8-11

Average 12-16

Poor 17-20

Can also use Top and Sub Top a Home Tactic Underdog Away or

Top Favourite Sub Top Evens Underdog if Underdog

FOR SUS AT END OF GAME TRY - REGROUP AND HOLD SHAPE

How is Tactic Testing done?
We test each tactic over a 90 game season (11 months in total) with 5 teams of varying levels of both ability and reputation. Each team is in a self-contained league that mimics real-life (majority the same level, but some are in the level above or below). This means that our test teams should be around mid-table level.

To make the test balanced transfers, internationals, injuries and fatigue are turned off for all teams.

What are the levels and how are they calculated?
Levels of teams are based on club reputation. The levels are as follows:

 

Elite - Barcelona, Arsenal

Top - Borussia Dortmund, FC Krasnodar

Good - CEC, Rangers

Average - Malmo FF, Newcastle United Jets

Lower - Al-Rayyan Sports Club, Southport


We worked out the average reputation of each of the levels, combined with taking a set of 5 clubs (2 top reputation, 2 lowest reputation and 1 in the middle) to find out the Top and Bottom CA for players, as well as the Median.

 

MENTALITY MATTERS GUIDE

RECOMMENDED TRAINING SCHEDULES

Cadoni recommendations

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My journey with Maidstone:

I have to blame myself, not designing and playing from 1 match with 20.4.0 TEA FOR ONE VOL4 4411 P103 ALL CUPS.

I have designed my team to play with Black Echo 442.

If someone plays at Vanarama, they know that finding players is PITA.

Three defeats with 20.4.0 TEA FOR ONE.

Rest defeats with Black Echo.

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Breaking wins for the team

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What about goals? We have it.

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My goal machine (this is a joke Knap, congrats)

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Regarding for yellow and red cards and fouls

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Now.

The more serious things about the game.

I am taking responsibility of training.

I am using 2 Match from FM Korea and Chance Creation & Score More Goals from Passion4FM.

https://www.passion4fm.com/football-manager-training-schedules-megapack/

I am also using training sche. for youths from Passion4FM.

Not so much for comment about those, I have started to use it 8 months (in game) now.

Chance Creation & Score More Goals sche. really helps. I haven't checked Youths.

SHOTS

Demand More when we are winning by 1 goal.

Show Some Passion when we are back at score.

Praise when winning 2 or more goals.

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FA Trophy and if we make League 2 promotion, who knows.

 

MRr Hough recommended shouts

Use shouts Show Some Passion and Demand More. Also concentrate if leading by a few goals

Edited Wednesday at 21:24 by knap

 

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NEW TACTICS

SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL 4132 P108

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SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL 4132 P102

FM20.2.3SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipP102ECCC.fmf45.02 kB · 0 downloads

FM 20.2.3 ARGUS 343

FM20.2.3ARGUSknap343P101FACC.fmf43 kB · 102 downloads

FM 20 2.3 PREACHIN BLUES 451

FM20.2.3451KnapPreachinBluesP102FA.fmf44.89 kB · 164 downloads

FM 20 2.3 PREACHIN BLUES 4141

FM20.2.34141KnapPreachinBluesP100EC.fmf44.92 kB · 0 downloads

FM 20.2.3 ARGUS 3322

FM20.2.3ARGUSknap3322P105.fmf43.19 kB · 84 downloads

FM 20.2.3 GOODBYE 4132 DROPPED DL

FM20.2.3GOODBYEbalanced4132APDLKnapP102.fmf45.27 kB · 77 downloads

 

FM20.2 SICILIAN P101

FM20.2SICILIAN442DLKnapP101ALLCUPS.fmf45.11 kB · 437 downloads

SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL LEIPZIG

442 (4222) Sympathy for the Devil (Top sub top underdog)

FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzig.fmf44.

442 Sympathy for the Devil P103 (Top Sub top ) 

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ARGUS 352 P103 EC CC

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WULF 4132 P106

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OXFORD 41221

FM20.2PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB41221OXFORDMUP86PL.fmf45.1 kB · 882 downloads

BEOWULF 442 P107

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NORTHERN SOUL 532 P101

FM20.2NorthernSoulMRHKnap5-3-2P101CC.fmf45.36 kB · 872 downloads

FM 20.2.3 BEOWULF 4411

FM20.2.3BEOWULF4411P97.fmf44.81 kB · 6 downloads

 

WULF 4141 P103 (top sub top underdog)

FM20.1WULF4141SPKnapP106ECCCKINGP107_SOLOUNAMIGOP104KINGP104FM20P99ECFAATTACKP103.fmf45.19 kB · 742 downloads

 

FM 20.2.3 MILAN 4141

959227044_Milankanp4141v2NEW!!.fmf45.03 kB · 1 download

FM 20.3 PARISIENNE WALKWAYS 4231

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FM20.2.3KnapPar1s ParisienneWaalkways4231IWP97.fmf44.92 kB · 5 downloads

FM 20.2.3 442 DEEP DL P100

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FM 20.2 STARGAZING 442 P106

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FM 20.2 STARGAZING 4231 P95

FM20.2STARGAZINGKnap 4231P95.fmf44.8 kB · 768 downloads

 

 

 

FM 20.1 Tactics RECOMMENDED LIST

WULF

4132 WULF P102 (Top Sub top underdog)

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4132 WULF ALL CUPS P102  (Top Sub top underdog)

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442 P102

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4132 TEQUILA SUNRISE TH 93 Sub Top

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442 DM SICILIAN DEFENCE P98

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ARGUS 352 P103 EC CC

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BLUE MATTER 433 DM P98 (Top)

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BLUE MATTER 433 P105 (Top)

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SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL

442 Vol (4222) Sympathy for the Devil Vol 2 (Top Sub Top )

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442 (4222) Sympathy for the Devil (Top sub top underdog)

FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzig.fmf44.88 kB · 812 downloads

4132 Sympathy for the Devil P103

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4132 Sympathy for the Devil TH Version

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4132 GOODBYE P101

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BLUE MATTER 451 P98

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WULF 424 (Top Teams) MU Lpool P103

!!!!!!!!!!FM19.3.5BEOWULF424IFKnapP108ECCCKINGP101FM20P103.fmf44.71 kB · 215 downloads

442 (sub top) Bayer 04

19.3.4WULF442PFPWMKnapP112ECFAFM20P97ALLCUPS53.fmf44.89 kB · 107 downloads

WULF 4141

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WULF 4231 P102 ECCC

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41311 Leeds

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FM 19.3.5 / 19.3.6

The FM 19 top tactics are considered to be

P112 ALL CUPS NO LOSS (Top Sub and under) (recommended for LL)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSS.fmf 45.32 kB · 116 downloadsPI

PILGRIMAGE 4141 P106 ALLCUPS NO LOSS (Newcastle PL and FA Cup Win)

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Wolves Tactic 4132 (PL Win) (Recommended for LL )

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBIWSPKnapWOLVESP95KINGP112.fmf45.34 kB · 122 downloads

Wolves Tactic Goodbye 4132 (PL Win)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5GOODBYE4132PFDWSPKnapP108ALLCUPSNOLOSSWOLVESPL.fmf45.41 kB · 63 downloads

 

 

P109 ALL CUPS SP (Top , Sub and Under)

 

!!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFPWMSPKnapP109ALLCUPS.fmf 45.14 kB · 85 downloads 

 

P112

!!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFPWMKnapP112ECFA.fmf 44.96 kB · 72 downloads

Updated for 19.3.5

P110

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF442PFPWMKnapP110ECCC.fmf 44.96 kB · 134 downloads

 

P108 no loss 4411 (top)

!!!!!FM19.3.4BEOWULF4411KnapP108ALLCUPSnoloss.fmf 45.25 kB · 46 downloads

P106 ALL CUPS 442 (top and Sub)

!!!!!FM19.3.4BEOWULF442KnapP106ALLCUPS.fmf 45.23 kB · 41 downloads

P103 ECCC 442 (Good for underdogs_

!!!!!19.3.4BEOWULF442WAFKnapP103ECCC.fmf 44.96 kB · 43 downloads

Updated for 19.3.5

(P103) P106 ALL CUPS KINGSTONIAN P109 (Recommended for LL)

!!!!!!!19.3.5BEOWULF442WAF9P103)KnapP106ALLCUPSKINGP109.fmf45.01 kB · 1,018 downloads

 

PILGRIMAGE 4141 AWAY Tactic (underdog tactic)

!!!!FM19.3.4PILGRIMAGE4141KnapP107EC.fmf44.1 kB · 113 downloads

 

 

WULF 4141

!!!!!!!19.3.5BEOWULF442WAF(P103)SPKnap4141P106ECCC.fmf45.24 kB · 92 downloads

 

PILGRIMAGE 4141 (Good for underdogs)

The 4141 is P102EC but there are updated versions of this the latest being P109

Other tactics

4132

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFWMIWBSPKnapTHP105FACCSPP108.fmf45.31 kB · 144 downloads

41221 Oxford

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB41221OXFORDP107ECFA.fmf45.25 kB · 98 downloads

4411

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnap4411P106ECFA.fmf45.21 kB · 78 downloads

41311

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnap41311P106ALLCUPS.fmf45.2 kB · 80 downloads

 

451

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB451P104.fmf45.19 kB · 93 downloads

 

442 DM SICILIAN P106 ALL CUPS NO LOSS (Top, Sub and Under)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5SICILIAN442PFDMIWBS

 

ADDITIONAL TACTICS

4141 Solounamigo  AWAYv4 (Top, Sub and Under) Recommended for LL

AWAYv4_!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4141SPKnapP106ECCCKINGP107_SOLOUNAMIGOP104KINGP104.fmf45.28 kB · 129 downloads

 

4132 AP Matiz (Top Sub)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSmatizAPTHP102.fmf45.36 kB · 144 downloads

442 Matiz (Top Sub and Under) Recommended for LL

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULFKnapMatizWPF442P104ALLCUPS.fmf44.98 kB · 200 downloads

4231 DM VOL

4231 DM VOL

!FM19.3.5BEOWULF4231DMVOLKnapP102ALLCUPS.fmf44.9 kB · 66 downloads

 

 

4141 IWB

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB4141P107.fmf45.21 kB · 36 downloads

 

SALAH TACTIC

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP104ALLCUPSSALAH.fmf45.32 kB · 125 downloads

 

HOLIDAY SEASON TACTICS

10 SEASON TACTIC (Wolves PL Win)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5SICILIAN442PFDMIWBSPKnapP109ALLCUPSNOLOSS10SEASONS.fmf45.28 kB · 80 downloads

MU 7 SEASON TACTIC  INVERTED WINGER (TOP and UNDER) (Recommended for LL)

!!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFIWKnapP110ECCCMU7SEASONS.fmf44.94 kB · 44 downloads

 

TH 12 SEASON TACTIC P108

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapTHP108.fmf45.29 kB · 78 downloads

424 IF P108 (Recommended for LL)

!!!!!!!!!!FM19.3.5BEOWULF424IFKnapP108ECCCKINGP101.fmf44.75 kB · 91 downloads

 

HOLIDAY SEASON TACTICS

 

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FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipvol2442P103ECCC.fmf 45.01 kB · 239 downloads FM20BLUEMATTER433KnapP105FACC.fmf 43.28 kB · 230 downloads

FM20.2WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSFM20.2P102ECCC.fmf 45.23 kB · 1,780 downloads

FM20.2SICILIAN442DLKnapP101ALLCUPS.fmf 45.11 kB · 1,158 downloads

So how does the training look week in week out? 

@knap @Cadoni

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1 minute ago, knap said:

@stian

Just go to game status and it shows ME. Unless this changes then no ME changes

I am using a FM 19 Tactic atm

@knap Ok, thanks. Just wanted to make sure. Trying your TEA FOR ONE 4321 OXFORD P108 FA now, see how that works. 

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27 minutes ago, Tydomo said:

So how does the training look week in week out? 

@knap @Cadoni

I haven't played so much my normal save to take a look.

But those two, is the best for now (from what I have use it).

May try and RDF Training Schedules.

:-)

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