mcallais Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Thanks, I will try both and adapt mentality according to opponent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 May be just your difficult away games in SC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 Oxford is a very open tactic in the middle of the park. When I set it up in FM08 I used barrows, so it turned into a 4141 when defending. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, knap said: Oxford is a very open tactic in the middle of the park. When I set it up in FM08 I used barrows, so it turned into a 4141 when defending. Oxford tactic in FM08 was 10/10! One of the best tactics I have used next to Diablo! Unfortunately the new one this FM hasn’t worked as effectively, but still a decent attacking tactic. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
radetzky Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Il 2/1/2020 in 18:30 , NotPennysBoat ha scritto: That depends. Against smaller teams, if I'm in the lead, I just stick with it. If I'm chasing a game, I go very attacking until I get an equaliser, and go back to attacking then. Against bigger opponents I like to go defensive or very defensive if I'm in the lead with one or two goals, with 10-15 minutes left on the clock. When I'm behind, I just keep it on attacking as very attacking seems to backfire too often against stronger opponents. @NotPennysBoat So basically you start with attacking mentality correct? Same approch both in Eredivisie and in Champions League? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 None of the tactics seem to be working that well on International duty. I hate this random ME. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) I like a good defense and not concedeing goals every match, so I gave the new PreachinBlues a shot. And I'm blown away. 2 draws (tactic unfamiliarity?) but it took 8(!) games before we conceded the first goal!! The tactic really suits my player natural roles and I'm having so much fun right now. Hope it lasts in Europe. Thanks for this one Knap! Edited January 3, 2020 by Dreambuilder 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Spikester said: Oxford tactic in FM08 was 10/10! One of the best tactics I have used next to Diablo! Unfortunately the new one this FM hasn’t worked as effectively, but still a decent attacking tactic. Original Oxford tactic was legendary man. No creative freedom worked amazing at the time. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 Have you Tried TIME 442 or 451 for Internationals as a simpler set up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Dreambuilder said: I like a good defense and not concedeing goals every match, so I gave the new PreachinBlues a shot. And I'm blown away. 2 draws (tactic unfamiliarity?) but it took 8(!) games before we conceded the first goal!! The tactic really suits my player natural roles and I'm having so much fun right now. Hope it lasts in Europe. Thanks for this one Knap! Cracking results! Hopefully you do well in Europe with it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Knap 4141 might be the tactic to look at, the 451 is doing well as above, especially defensively, could get the 4141 back to top tactic! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 Will try a 4141 later Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 Which 433 did you use last year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 Which 433 did you use last year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harisnuriakhlaq Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) Hi Knap, is there any way in which a no fullback/wingback system could work? In other words, 3 centre backs with wingers on either side ahead of them. Is this something you have or could consider looking into? I should mention I am Liverpool snd 10 years into the game so I'm fairly confident my players could adapt to the system but it's rhe tactic as a concept in itself, especially from a defensive point of view. Very rarely are good fullbacks produced as regens so i'm trying to avoid using them .... Thanks in advance Edited January 4, 2020 by harisnuriakhlaq Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinardier8282 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 With Sicilian 442, I won easily the liga with Atletico Madrid and the Serie with Napoli first season, and we went too in Champions league final first year. So many CCC created with this and dominated pratically all my games also away against big teams. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enterprise1 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Hi Knap. Do these tactics work in touch? I've used Sicilian 4222 with Ipswich and have done well, but I've noticed that the offside trap seems to get beaten regularly. Is this because of my defence etc? I'm also starting a network game on the full version using Bournemouth. It seems to suit them positionally, but was just wondering if you think it will work or if I should be using something else. Thanks mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyes92300 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 13 hours ago, knap said: Have you Tried TIME 442 or 451 for Internationals as a simpler set up. Hello Knap 451, O.I ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filer974 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 It was the 433 BlueMatter that I used the other years and this tactic always worked very well whatever the team with which I played. If you could put this tactic back in place I would be your grateful knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyes92300 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 15 hours ago, Dreambuilder said: I like a good defense and not concedeing goals every match, so I gave the new PreachinBlues a shot. And I'm blown away. 2 draws (tactic unfamiliarity?) but it took 8(!) games before we conceded the first goal!! The tactic really suits my player natural roles and I'm having so much fun right now. Hope it lasts in Europe. Thanks for this one Knap! O.I ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 I do not generally use OIs. If I did use OIs with a tactic I would Specify as a requirement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, ilyes92300 said: O.I ? No OI's except for what assman advices late game. Defence is solid, but the amount of draws are really starting to pile up, and matches with many goals are rare. I think I'm going to switch back to one of the recommended Wulf4132's with 2 strikers. With a DM plus defensive wingers they are the closest to a successful 442 with good defense in my opinion. Sicilian is one alternative aswell, but leaves little too much of a red hole in the middle of the formation for the liking of my eyes. Edited January 4, 2020 by Dreambuilder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dreambuilder said: No OI's except for what assman advices late game. Defence is solid, but the amount of draws are starting to pile up, and matches with many goals are rare. I think I'm going to switch back to one of the recommended Wulf4132's with 2 strikers. With a DM plus defensive wingers they are the closest to a successful 442 with good defense in my opinion. Sicilian is one alternative aswell, but leaves little too much of a red hole in the middle of the formation for the liking of my eyes. I wouldn’t worry about the red hole, Sicilian is a great tactic! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 Most of the tactics are set up on FMT as it is quicker, although I run both games. GOODBYE 4132 DL uses a dropped DL down to lower. Maybe try this tactic out to see if you prefer a higher DL or dropped DL. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassy Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) So I'm using PreachinBlues and actually doing well with Everton, but I'm getting an horrendous amount of yellow and red cards which is hindering results. How can I stop this? Edited January 4, 2020 by Glassy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Spikester said: I wouldn’t worry about the red hole, Sicilian is a great tactic! I bet. I like the wingbacks on automatic which works with changing mentality when necessary. Going to give Sicilian a shot now. When starting up a new game my squad has like 4 DM's so it suits my squad pretty well. Edited January 4, 2020 by Dreambuilder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enterprise1 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, knap said: Most of the tactics are set up on FMT as it is quicker, although I run both games. GOODBYE 4132 DL uses a dropped DL down to lower. Maybe try this tactic out to see if you prefer a higher DL or dropped DL. I swapped to sympathy for the devil 4222 as it’s listed higher on fm base for subtop teams, considering I was top with Ipswich I thought it made more sense, and it seems to have reduced the ai one on ones. Bournemouth are predicted 15th so I guess they’re considered as underdogs. Hoping the Sicilian with be effective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyes92300 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 When it is my assistant who manages the specific instructions .. The tactics are better .. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 Because all AMs may not apply same OIs , testing results may be skewed. If OIs work for you then use them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enterprise1 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Is the offside trap essential in your tactics? Just never been a fan of it to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 Because of balls over the top I have tried tactics without but having it on appears to be better. If you try with it off and still get expected results then it is not a problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teooo :D Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, knap said: Have you Tried TIME 442 or 451 for Internationals as a simpler set up. Hi Knap, i read your response and i tried in the Fifa World Cup with Argentina the tactic Time 4-4-2. I won all the games! Edited January 4, 2020 by Teooo :D 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stian Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 @knap really struggling with Tottenham for the moment, cant seem to find a consistent tactic, any advise? for the moment i am trying your argus 343, but not getting good results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 Tactics that I have used with Spurs and won PL are Tequila Sunrise, Beowulf 442 P107 and Sicilian P101. I would also try Preachin Blues 451 as I won PL with Arsenal. May also be worth a home and away tactic and looking at the posts on changing mentality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enterprise1 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, knap said: May also be worth a home and away tactic and looking at the posts on changing mentality Do you alter mentality Knap? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stian Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, knap said: Tactics that I have used with Spurs and won PL are Tequila Sunrise, Beowulf 442 P107 and Sicilian P101. I would also try Preachin Blues 451 as I won PL with Arsenal. May also be worth a home and away tactic and looking at the posts on changing mentality. @knap thanks, will try preachin blues 451 keep up the good work btw! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 I do not atler mentality apart from the occasional SUS. However, I am usually testing a tactic. There are a few good posts on changing mentality to your advantage a page or 2 back. Also Optimus mentality matters guide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyes92300 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 @knap So do you use your tactics with O.I or not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, ilyes92300 said: @knap So do you use your tactics with O.I or not? Knap has said numerous times he does not use OI's and does NOT set AM to do them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyes92300 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Just now, Spikester said: Knap a déclaré à plusieurs reprises qu'il n'utilisait pas les OI et ne définissait PAS AM pour les utiliser. okay bro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 Many factors are involved with cards, the easiest to tweak is remove get stuck in and adjust individual OI from hard tackle, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stian Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 2 hours ago, knap said: Tactics that I have used with Spurs and won PL are Tequila Sunrise, Beowulf 442 P107 and Sicilian P101. I would also try Preachin Blues 451 as I won PL with Arsenal. May also be worth a home and away tactic and looking at the posts on changing mentality. knap, will beowulf 442 107 work on the current patch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 All independently tested under FM 20.2.3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmastrich Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Argus 352 still working after 5 seasons with Newcastle! As you can see from screenshots, I have some elite players but not the best overall sqad in the Premier League? Just be patient, even if you lose 2-3 games in a row. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 I love winning the Super Cup: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, Spikester said: I love winning the Super Cup: which tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, Dreambuilder said: which tactic? Sicilian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyes92300 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Skin plz ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyes92300 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, Dreambuilder said: which tactic? Skin ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 minute ago, ilyes92300 said: Skin ? FM Touch standard skin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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