Popular Post Morrissey Posted October 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2018 It's that time again... Like last year, I'll be activating all the leagues (including the Juniors) as close to the IRL setup as I can manage. This time, it'll be an easier job as I've added the Lowland League squads to the FM database! Quite a few changes have happened since, but I'll likely have a file out by the Sunday on launch weekend. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) Steam Link: Download the DB here Logopack: Scotland (by MozzaGaming).zip Enjoy! N.B. Fantasy File to follow. There is no promotion out of the SJFA leagues in this file. Edited November 12, 2018 by Morrissey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazRTaylor Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Love this database. I know there is no promotion/relegation between some of the tiers in Scotland, so you can’t go from the very bottom to the top. Whilst I acknowledge this isn’t lifelike, will you be releasing a version where this is possible? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 I follow you around the Lowland League circuit with your match reports etc so I'm excited that I'll be able to see the real squads in your file. As Daz requests, I really need a save with certain promotion/relegation even if it has to be fantasy, eg automatic relegation from/promotion to the Highland League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share Posted October 28, 2018 On 25/10/2018 at 20:58, DazRTaylor said: Love this database. I know there is no promotion/relegation between some of the tiers in Scotland, so you can’t go from the very bottom to the top. Whilst I acknowledge this isn’t lifelike, will you be releasing a version where this is possible? On 26/10/2018 at 02:17, phnompenhandy said: I follow you around the Lowland League circuit with your match reports etc so I'm excited that I'll be able to see the real squads in your file. As Daz requests, I really need a save with certain promotion/relegation even if it has to be fantasy, eg automatic relegation from/promotion to the Highland League. Don't worry guys, there will be a fantasy version alongside the IRL one! Probably going to follow the most likely integration, merging the East Juniors with EoS and the West Juniors with the SoS. There are currently talks ongoing to have a full pyramid in place for 2019/20, so if anything comes out about these I'll follow their plan too. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazRTaylor Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 On 28/10/2018 at 15:33, Morrissey said: Don't worry guys, there will be a fantasy version alongside the IRL one! Probably going to follow the most likely integration, merging the East Juniors with EoS and the West Juniors with the SoS. There are currently talks ongoing to have a full pyramid in place for 2019/20, so if anything comes out about these I'll follow their plan too. Excellent news. I tried your database for the first time last season and I had loads of fun, so looking forward to this one. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicoPolska Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Edusporst's regens are french ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavelberry Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 WICK GO AGAIN. THIS DOES NOT SLIP! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattjohn Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I Love this database it is brilliant, will FM19 version have the U20's leagues? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Bladesman Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Great news, and thanks for your hard work on this. Always much appreciated! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss_1873_Rfc Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Cannot wait for this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavelberry Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Hey @Morrissey will you be doing kits/logos etc again this year as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) @Wavelberry I will indeed! The crafty so-and-sos appear to have changed the small icon size, so they'll need changed (all 220 odd!) So...who fancies a test file? (REMOVED - see below!) This one has the structure totally in place, after I sorted some gremlins out. Hopefully it works...mainly simple changes after this, and then the altogether more complex issue of league reconstruction! NOTE - Selkirk and a couple of other sides find themselves in some sort of EoS purgatory. Don't worry, I needed two sides in each of the two - they become 12 team leagues in 2019/20. Edited November 5, 2018 by Morrissey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavelberry Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Will have a gander green later this morning and see if Wick's players are still OP... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss_1873_Rfc Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 How do the cups work in the South of Scotland league? They are played bi annually now. Also, with clubs being licensed, do the correct clubs gain entry to the Scottish Cup? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Hoss_1873_Rfc said: How do the cups work in the South of Scotland league? They are played bi annually now. Also, with clubs being licensed, do the correct clubs gain entry to the Scottish Cup? I’ve kept the SoS cups to one a year. FM wouldn’t cope with bi-annual and any squad would be decimated by injuries having so many games. Licencing is a tough one. Given that all the EoS and SoS clubs have it re-opened, I think I’ll leave it as the “best” sides qualifying regardless. Junior champs and Amateur champs will continue to qualify. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Just giving this a test whirl now as St Andrews United, whom I saw play once in about 2013 when I was a Masters student there. Their goalkeeper at the time was shorter and shitter than me! One tiny little bit of feedback already... Should it not be St Andrews (no dot) as opposed to St. Andrews? I seem to remember that the locals and the uni were very pedantic about the lack of the dot, as apparently the name of the city predates the use of punctuation for abbreviation and possessives (hence not being Andrew's, either). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss_1873_Rfc Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 7 hours ago, Morrissey said: I’ve kept the SoS cups to one a year. FM wouldn’t cope with bi-annual and any squad would be decimated by injuries having so many games. Licencing is a tough one. Given that all the EoS and SoS clubs have it re-opened, I think I’ll leave it as the “best” sides qualifying regardless. Junior champs and Amateur champs will continue to qualify. I'm going to take Newton Stewart all the way! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neekiess Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 How does the promotion from the 3 EOS leagues work and the relegation from the Lowland? 4 way play-off with winners of EOS and SOS play for the one spot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, neekiess said: How does the promotion from the 3 EOS leagues work and the relegation from the Lowland? 4 way play-off with winners of EOS and SOS play for the one spot? IRL, the three EoS conference winners are set to play off against each other to become EoS champ, then face the SoS winner in a promotion playoff. However, Selkirk going bust has given us an issue, as now 2 teams will be promoted - no confirmation of how it'll work as yet, I'm going to throw all 4 into playoffs with 2 emerging as winners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 Right folks - here is the first proper DB file for testing. I've removed the other one as it didn't work properly. Save this (My Documents > Sports Interactive > Football Manager 2019 > editor data) and it'll be ready to go. IMPORTANT - new games will be slow to load up. Don't worry, this is normal from the point you click "New Career" and the game will be as quick as normal once loaded up. All I need to do now is add detail (awards, real managers, update squads) and get the graphics done. Let me know if you find any issues Scotland - The Full Pyramid (v1).xml 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis1792 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Morrissey said: Right folks - here is the first proper DB file for testing. I've removed the other one as it didn't work properly. Save this (My Documents > Sports Interactive > Football Manager 2019 > editor data) and it'll be ready to go. IMPORTANT - new games will be slow to load up. Don't worry, this is normal from the point you click "New Career" and the game will be as quick as normal once loaded up. All I need to do now is add detail (awards, real managers, update squads) and get the graphics done. Let me know if you find any issues Scotland - The Full Pyramid (v1).xml In what way will the first db file not work? I have started a career game on it and am happy to keep playing as long as it won't crash, haven't finished the first season yet so am I to expect it to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 36 minutes ago, lewis1792 said: In what way will the first db file not work? I have started a career game on it and am happy to keep playing as long as it won't crash, haven't finished the first season yet so am I to expect it to? DM's you back mate. It'll work, just not as things do IRL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) It seemed a bit too easy to bring in good players (who had interest from 2 levels above) in my quick play as St Andrews. Not only were they willing to join me ahead of teams from further up the pyramid, they were willing to relocate to Fife from all corners of Scotland. I can accept that for non-contract football at that level, you'll go where the better deal is regardless of standard, but the willingness to move geographically didn't seem right to me. Does the game just treat Scotland as too geographically small to worry too much about players moving between distant local regions? Edited November 5, 2018 by Guest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 16 minutes ago, Robot (SMFC) said: It seemed a bit too easy to bring in good players (who had interest from 2 levels above) in my quick play as St Andrews. Not only were they willing to join me ahead of teams from further up the pyramid, they were willing to relocate to Fife from all corners of Scotland. I can accept that for non-contract football at that level, you'll go where the better deal is regardless of standard, but the willingness to move geographically didn't seem right to me. Does the game just treat Scotland as too geographically small to worry too much about players moving between distant local regions? It does, yeah. I'm currently experimenting to see if I can "break up" the regions. The other thing that'll have an impact is club reputations, which are wildly wrong (most Juniors etc are rated just below SPFL level, with exactly the same rep). They'll be updated along with other details etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montrosefc Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Great work on the database so far. Looking forward to see how far I can take Montrose Roselea. Happy to help making kits if anyone can send me the pictures. Roselea ones are already done of course! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 6 hours ago, Morrissey said: It does, yeah. I'm currently experimenting to see if I can "break up" the regions. The other thing that'll have an impact is club reputations, which are wildly wrong (most Juniors etc are rated just below SPFL level, with exactly the same rep). They'll be updated along with other details etc. Yeah, we've complained before that the Scottish head of research is a bit lazy with attention to the lower league clubs. You have to go through and sort out all their reputations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 2 hours ago, phnompenhandy said: Yeah, we've complained before that the Scottish head of research is a bit lazy with attention to the lower league clubs. You have to go through and sort out all their reputations In his defence, FM is generally only concerned with ‘active’ clubs - that’s where I come in! The to-do list is: Club Reputations Update Squads Add Managers Add Media Sources Adjust Scottish Cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Thanks partly to your sterling media efforts and the excellent Lowland Football League website along with lively blogs, I'm already managing Edinburgh University. I wish I could find out what degrees the players are studying to add to the verisimilitude! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markypark14 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Excellent work as always Morrissey but one significant issue I have found so far. The EoS North/South divisions have a fixtures issue. At the end of the 2018/19 season the teams are assigned correctly and fixtures are generated but for the 2020/21 season, not the 2019/20 season. Therefore the teams in the EoS North/South sit idle in the league for a season. All the other divisions have fixtures and the cups play as normal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoss_FM Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I've already started as EduSport in Lowland League. Should I wait and download your updated db and re-start my save? Or will there be no difference. Great job btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 @markypark14 This should now be fixed in my final release file, coming shortly. Cheers for the heads up! @TheBoss_FM Should be fine to keep going hopefully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 My game can only load up fmf files and doesn't see this xml. Is there something I should be doing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpole Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, phnompenhandy said: My game can only load up fmf files and doesn't see this xml. Is there something I should be doing? maybe try import to the editor and save as .fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, Bigpole said: maybe try import to the editor and save as .fmf Sorry, I figured it out. It's incompatible with my edited file. Loads up with lower league Welsh file. I'm putting it through its paces as I await a lower league English file and a Norn Irish one if it's soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 21 hours ago, markypark14 said: Excellent work as always Morrissey but one significant issue I have found so far. The EoS North/South divisions have a fixtures issue. At the end of the 2018/19 season the teams are assigned correctly and fixtures are generated but for the 2020/21 season, not the 2019/20 season. Therefore the teams in the EoS North/South sit idle in the league for a season. All the other divisions have fixtures and the cups play as normal. In mine EoS South has 2 teams inc Selkirk and I can't open up North at all. So about that xml file - it doesn't show up in the editor when I try to see what's going on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markypark14 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 35 minutes ago, phnompenhandy said: In mine EoS South has 2 teams inc Selkirk and I can't open up North at all. So about that xml file - it doesn't show up in the editor when I try to see what's going on! Yeah Selkirk and Syngenta are in the South division, although not sure why. 39 teams in the conferences, 16 of which make up the new Premier Division leaving 23 to make up the North and South divisions. But perhaps it something to do with how the game handles the promotion/relegation. The xml file shows in the editor for me if you go to File ---> Import @Morrissey one other thing regarding the North/South divisions. In the rules they only play each other once - shouldn't it be twice? (Apologies if you've already fixed this!) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 49 minutes ago, markypark14 said: Yeah Selkirk and Syngenta are in the South division, although not sure why. 39 teams in the conferences, 16 of which make up the new Premier Division leaving 23 to make up the North and South divisions. But perhaps it something to do with how the game handles the promotion/relegation. The xml file shows in the editor for me if you go to File ---> Import @Morrissey one other thing regarding the North/South divisions. In the rules they only play each other once - shouldn't it be twice? (Apologies if you've already fixed this!) They're there because the two will join the EoS next season, all being well. One extra team is promoted to make 16 in the Lowland after Selkirk's withdrawal this season. I'll double check it, thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavelberry Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Sooooo salivating at the chance to go back to Harmsworth... Am also gonna head up there IRL soon to get the best picture ever... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattjohn Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 The FM18 version had a option of early pre season the end of may, will this be a option in FM19? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 Steam link added to post 2 - it's alive! Only the 2,500 changes this year... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 48 minutes ago, Morrissey said: Steam link added to post 2 - it's alive! Only the 2,500 changes this year... File with promotions/relegation to be ready today?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazRTaylor Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 8 hours ago, Morrissey said: Steam link added to post 2 - it's alive! Only the 2,500 changes this year... Thanks mate, looking forward to this. When I choose the league in game setup, it won't allow any leagues to be chosen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markypark14 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 As Daz says above, the Steam file doesn't allow us to select what divisions are playable, You can still start the game but it only loads down to the Highland/Lowland leagues as playable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 Cheers guys - will try and sort this tonight. No idea why it’s happening, was fine on my end! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT1711 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Same issue with me, Morrisey. When I load the DB it only allows me to select teams from Highland and Lowland. Leagues below Lowland don't show (assuming there is an issues under the hood in this area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatham Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, MT1711 said: Same issue with me, Morrisey. When I load the DB it only allows me to select teams from Highland and Lowland. Leagues below Lowland don't show (assuming there is an issues under the hood in this area. Noticed if you load the database, you are able to load in the other leagues from the end of the 2019 season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winski Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Great work! I'd like to start a save with Brora Rangers, but they don't have a U19 team. Same as a lot of other teams in that division. Any idea why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 Right folks - temp fix is now in place. Manual verification no longer works in Editor hence the original issues! While the "league selection" box will remain blank, all will load for season 1. You can change the number running from season 2 onwards in settings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Is the verification difficulty due to the file being an xml? Any way you can convert it to fmf? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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