Blah_1123 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 As the title says. My youth team just won the U21 Cup and it got me thinking, does this benefit me in anyway or is it just a thing that exists? Does winning youth competitions increase mental stats? Player reputation? Club reputation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontyOnTheRun Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Would like to know this as well. Improves youth manager's rep I would think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy8chimp Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Excellent question. If it doesn't increase, or have an effect of some sort, based on personality for instance, mental attributes or hidden attributes.... And it doesnt affect reputation of those players... It should Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlatanera Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 As far as I can tell all your reward is a question in the press conference asking you if any of them will be integrated into the first team, and if you answer yes, a follow-up of which one in particular? It also suggests you've done a good job of hoarding young players. If you have a B team and they win the league, I've found their manager ends up higher up the list of "icons" than I did when I won the first team's league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah_1123 Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 I wonder if @Neil Brock would be able to shed some light on this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacaw Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Small boost to players rep seems likely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snorks Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I think player rep, value etc get a small boost. As well as Kudos for your manager, a little bit of cash for the club perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheriff7 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I don't know but in my Fm18 saves my B team or U21 manager after a good year always had offers from other clubs (9/10 of them accept them). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 If you have a successful youth squad, I have found it easier to keep them at the club rather than them demanding to go out on loan to sit on the bench at some team 2 divisions below, despite them promising to play them as a key player. As for reputation etc, I doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steakfaced Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 4 hours ago, FrazT said: If you have a successful youth squad, I have found it easier to keep them at the club rather than them demanding to go out on loan to sit on the bench at some team 2 divisions below, despite them promising to play them as a key player. As for reputation etc, I doubt it. If that's the case I really think FM missing a mark here. Even just referencing the victory more often would be cool, cuz once I win them I forget who was ever on the team.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snorks Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, steakfaced said: If that's the case I really think FM missing a mark here. Even just referencing the victory more often would be cool, cuz once I win them I forget who was ever on the team.. It will be in the player history won;t it? If your u18s win everything - there would be a fair few of them coming through over the next few years anyway I would think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hluraven Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Is there any benefit in real life? I couldn't tell you a single youth competition winner ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 44 minutes ago, hluraven said: Is there any benefit in real life? I couldn't tell you a single youth competition winner ever. England winning the World Cup? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
herne79 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 17 hours ago, Blah_1123 said: As the title says. My youth team just won the U21 Cup and it got me thinking, does this benefit me in anyway or is it just a thing that exists? Does winning youth competitions increase mental stats? Player reputation? Club reputation? From a player development perspective, playing in matches helps their development - but so also does playing at the right competitive level and player performance during those matches. So, if you're winning the U21 Cup, your players must be performing quite well and at a decent competitive level. Therefore they'd likely get a small helping hand in development. It won't be much because Cup matches are few and far between, but every little helps. It's the Sky Cycling team adage: individually such little gains don't mean much, but collectively they can add up to make quite a difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryRoberts1975 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Maybe the youth teams doing well leads to future sponsorship? I remember in FM17 my youth team was suddenly sponsored for £7.5 million a season after winning quite a lot of trophies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPompey Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 the only way to know this would be to compare before and after stats / hidden stats At worst then its a good run of matches in a team which will improve morale. IRL I think there have been many youth players with ots of potential that never get fullfilled. Additionally some youth players mature younger than others and then their development flatlines whilst others continue I would expect to see a slight change in ability of playing in big games / under pressure etc as winning youth competitions should help develop a winning mentality. However i suspect FM will not recognise this in anyway other than perhaps a history stat. Why not add this as a future game improvement suggestion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted August 17, 2018 Administrators Share Posted August 17, 2018 On 16/08/2018 at 11:05, herne79 said: From a player development perspective, playing in matches helps their development - but so also does playing at the right competitive level and player performance during those matches. So, if you're winning the U21 Cup, your players must be performing quite well and at a decent competitive level. Therefore they'd likely get a small helping hand in development. It won't be much because Cup matches are few and far between, but every little helps. It's the Sky Cycling team adage: individually such little gains don't mean much, but collectively they can add up to make quite a difference. I think herne79 makes a valid point here. The higher standard the match in the competition (so say in theory the final is a bigger deal than the first round) plus the fact it's against what you would assume is a better opposition will help with the development of your player. Likewise they'll get a morale boost and generally happier players tend to play and train slightly better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Do youth matches have an importance weighting just like senior matches? I’m not sure as we know that for U18s their development curve is driven by their training rather than match experience so in my mind weighting youth match importance for the purpose of match experience modelling would seem to be a redundant process. The 18-21 age group matches might be different but then again I’d expect the experience to have a limited value other than setting a low end attribute mentality profile that can be improved upon with further positive senior experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted August 17, 2018 Administrators Share Posted August 17, 2018 24 minutes ago, Barside said: Do youth matches have an importance weighting just like senior matches? I’m not sure as we know that for U18s their development curve is driven by their training rather than match experience so in my mind weighting youth match importance for the purpose of match experience modelling would seem to be a redundant process. The 18-21 age group matches might be different but then again I’d expect the experience to have a limited value other than setting a low end attribute mentality profile that can be improved upon with further positive senior experience. Yeah there is an importance rating - essentially the higher the rep of the match the bigger the potential boost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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