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Hi Knap, can you explain what type of player is ideally needed for the CMs? And like it's role within the tactic, how would it differ from say a BBM? Also wingers foot preference not an issue? Great tac BTW :) 

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The MU players are a good fit and the roles form the tactic structure. Usually left on left but ppms can override and they can be swopped during a match.

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7 hours ago, knap said:

The MU players are a good fit and the roles form the tactic structure. Usually left on left but ppms can override and they can be swopped during a match.

Okay cool, so the CMs will be the type of player that's a more an BBM CAR hybrid? Just quite hard to find a natural CMs :)

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I was just about to post a 442 with MU. Still using Matic Pogba but now in these roles

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f you look at positions Matic is a defensive MC and Pogba a M, and I ignore roles, which can be trained

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As a formation it should counter a 442 as it protects wings and out numbers in midfield. 

I've not had too many problems with 442 as A Madrid are probably best uses of a 442 as well as Leicester (may be worth not playing offside).

It is also good SUS Formation, so I would try it on counter against strong 442s.

The other tactics to try would be  White Europe 343 IF tactic or the Volante Anchor another White Europe tweak..

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vor 3 Minuten schrieb knap:

As a formation it should counter a 442 as it protects wings and out numbers in midfield. 

I've not had too many problems with 442 as A Madrid are probably best uses of a 442 as well as Leicester (may be worth not playing offside).

It is also good SUS Formation, so I would try it on counter against strong 442s.

The other tactics to try would be  White Europe 343 IF tactic or the Volante Anchor another White Europe tweak..

ty so much, so i think generally the ARGUS-Formations are good as an Underdogg because of the structured team-shape..

so do you think the 442 Midsommer AF-Formation is better than an pilgrimage 4321 ? or just trying out :)

i have just read that you talked about fwds 3>2>1 :)

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In FM the best form of defence is usually attack. The main problem with the 343 is it is open down wings. but if you can get a lead with a 343 then it may be worth protecting the lead with  a 442 or 451 type formations.

 

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vor 13 Minuten schrieb knap:

In FM the best form of defence is usually attack. The main problem with the 343 is it is open down wings. but if you can get a lead with a 343 then it may be worth protecting the lead with  a 442 or 451 type formations.

 

yeah i dont want to play with 3 fwds, its like an cheat i think, so iam trying one of those pilgrimage formations with 2 wingers or IFs or alternativ the 442 midsommer with 2 AFs

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vor 28 Minuten schrieb knap:

The VOL MEZ and Volante tactics are also strong underdog tactics

i  play with an top club in premier league, my problem is the big games against mu, arsenal and so on :D

do you have an link to the volante tactics ? i dont finde the thread

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Anything i can do to sure up my defence, I can't keep a clean sheet to save my life with this tactic but scoring loads.

 

Playing as Salford City in 2023/24 in the Premier League, media prediction 18th but currently in 6th. 

 

Scored 63 (highest in the league) but conceded 44 (2nd highest in the league)

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Best form of defence is attack. In general goal difference depends on quality of squad. If you can get a good lead it may be worth trying a SUS or part SUS.

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The 2 main elements of a SUS tactic is to reduce WB runs changing to support or defend or DFB, and reducing mentality to control counter and contain. A part SUS would be a mix say WBs to defend and mentality to counter.

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442 is a good option for underdogs. MIDSOMER P103 which some use in counter or VOLANTE Tactics (The Anchor version is a White Europe) or VOL MEZ. ARGUS 451.

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Overview of Tactic List from testing                                  TOTAL                       SUB TOP    UNDERDOG

ARGUS FM 18.2.2       P102                                                    P385                          P206        P179  

PILGRIMAGE FM 18.3.3 LPOOL P104                                  P380                            P226       P154

WOF FM 18.3.3  P101  Flexible                                              P381                           P213          P168

WOF FM 18.3.3 LPOOL P100 ALL CUPS                                P365                          P196          P169

PILGRIMAGE Fluid  LPOOL P101                                           P367                          P201           P166

PILGRIMAGE FM 18.2 P105                                                   P357                          P218           P139

ARGUS VOL 4 FM18.3.3  Structured  P101 ALL CUPS       P363                          P220           P143

BLUE MATTER    FM 18.3.3 P105                                         P356                           P207           P149

GOODBYE FM 18.3 VOL 7 Very Fluid                                  P349                           P208          P141

GOODBYE 3421                                                                     P324                          P205         P119

MIDSOMER 442 P103 (FLAT TEST)                                      P349                          P199         P150

MIDSOMER 442 VOL MEZ                                                    P342                          P196         P146 

MIDSOMER 343 VOL MEZ                                                    P337                          P195        P142

WOF 2323    FM 18   P104                                                    P335                          P187         P148

BLUE MATTER FM 18.3 VOL 4 P102     352                       P335                           P206         P129

ASH 343 19,3.3 LPOOLP99 Highly Structured                 P333                           P205       P128

ARGUS 3430                                                                          P331                          P192         P139

VOLANTE BWM FM 18.3 P101                                           P326                            P191         P135

MM  442 VOLANTE P103                                                    P323                            P187        P136

WOF 3412                                                                            P325                             P198         P127

WOF 2233 P102HS         FM 18.2                                      P311                             P194         P117

BLUE MATTER VOL 4 P100 4123 FM 18.2.1                  P310                             P179         -P131

MMVOLANTEANCHOR            442                                   P302                            P165           P127

ARGUS 352 18.2,2 P101                                                   P306                            P169            P137

BLUE MATTER 433 18.3                                                    P295                             P158           P137

BLUE MATTER VOL 4 4213 VOLANTE 18.3                     P289                            P184            P105

PILGRIMAGE 3511 18.2.2 P102                                       P297                            P181            P116

PILGRIMAGE 451 MUP101 18.3.3                                    P293                           P169          P124

MIDSOMER WIDE DIAMOND   18.3                                P287                            P175            P112

RAMBLE ON ASYMMETRIC18,3 P100                             P287                           P169            P118     

RAW SIENNA 4231 18,2,2                                                 P272                           P147             P125 

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  • 3 months later...

Ramble On was not requested for FM 19, although in the Beta a had a 41122 tactic.

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