elgreenio 120 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Lingard's nowhere near a pen for me. Had he been smarter he could have easily won one which people would probably moan at being extremely soft. It would have been one of those like Madrid's pen vs Juve in the CL, if the defender is stupid enough to make a challenge like that then dont be surprised if you end up giving away a penalty Link to post Share on other sites
enigmatic 3,444 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 At the risk of sounding like an even bigger troll than westy, I think the ref did OK with his actual decisions despite his lack of authority last night. Got the big decisions including all the penalty shouts right, bar the arguable red card for the head-sort-of-butt (which was given on advice of his assistant, and so lame even by footballer standards it was probably more 'unsportsmanlike' than 'violent'). Bailed England out when they threw the ball straight to Bacca whilst Maguire was still focused on the ball he'd just kicked off the pitch too. Could certainly have given more cards, but then I think we'd have ended up with the Battle of Nuremberg rather than a calmer game. Link to post Share on other sites
pearcey_90 1,396 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, Bigwig said: There was also someone (can’t remember who) who fouled someone then did the age old feigning injury to avoid a potential booking. Assume that was the one where Barrios jumped in two foot at Young and because of how he jumped in, Young caught him on his shin and went down. Which at this point ref gave a foul against Barrios (so must have seen him jump in two foot and not in control) and it wasn’t even his first foul after the headbut Don’t know how that guy managed to stay on. Link to post Share on other sites
m_fenton 1,519 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, enigmatic said: At the risk of sounding like an even bigger troll than westy, I think the ref did OK with his actual decisions despite his lack of authority last night. Got the big decisions including all the penalty shouts right, bar the arguable red card for the head-sort-of-butt (which was given on advice of his assistant, and so lame even by footballer standards it was probably more 'unsportsmanlike' than 'violent'). Bailed England out when they threw the ball straight to Bacca whilst Maguire was still focused on the ball he'd just kicked off the pitch too. Could certainly have given more cards, but then I think we'd have ended up with the Battle of Nuremberg rather than a calmer game. The one where the linesman was facing the wrong way and dealing with the ball coming back towards the pitch? Hardly bailing England out if the officials aren't even ready to play Link to post Share on other sites
Astafjevs 1,407 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 It was a classic game where the ref lost control, and then tried to regain control by showing cards to everyone. Link to post Share on other sites
pearcey_90 1,396 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, enigmatic said: Bailed England out when they threw the ball straight to Bacca whilst Maguire was still focused on the ball he'd just kicked off the pitch too. In fairness to that one, even the linesman wasn’t ready for play because he was watching Maguire getting rid of the 2nd ball. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
daylight 2,601 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, ham_aka_stam said: But they weren't doing any of the rest of it, and no-one was quite as bad as Falcao. Henderson was the worst, and he'd literally just been double-headbutted to the chest and chin... Lingard going down and screaming for a penalty was pathetic also. Link to post Share on other sites
ham_aka_stam 1,726 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, daylight said: Lingard going down and screaming for a penalty was pathetic also. I thought it looked like his foot was clipped, but admittedly haven't seen the replay in the cold light of day. Link to post Share on other sites
Barry Cartman 6,451 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Just now, ham_aka_stam said: I thought it looked like his foot was clipped, but admittedly haven't seen the replay in the cold light of day. I've just shown 3 angles of it Link to post Share on other sites
Barry Cartman 6,451 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Meanwhile in Brazil...... 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ham_aka_stam 1,726 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said: I've just shown 3 angles of it Sorry, I'll go through the thread and watch every link right now But yeah, there's contact, player gets no-where near the ball and fully deserves a penalty imo. Link to post Share on other sites
daylight 2,601 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Christ I just realised there is no football today or tomorrow, was just checking what game the BBC was showing and nothing but tennis, feeling kinda sad. Link to post Share on other sites
Hodgy 316 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 26 minutes ago, Bigwig said: I don’t particularly mind most of this, it just gets irksome when managers, players, press and pundits get all righteous about the dirty cheating foreigners while conveniently ignoring anything shady from the good honest Brits. To be fair Southgate has said something similar to the following post match like we've finally become wise to how to behave and have finally caught up, it's actually the first tournament I've seen where we have tried to get the refs attention regarding incidents or played the game as others have been doing for years and even then we were still second to Colombia in terms of dirty tactics and drawing attention. As for the pens, Lingard was never a pen for me yet I thought Maguire got caught even if it was slight, he was stretching for the ball and got touched but was already off balance so for me that wasn't a penalty but it was never a dive either, think the ref got that spot on. Link to post Share on other sites
Bliss Seeker 4,100 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, daylight said: Christ I just realised there is no football today or tomorrow, was just checking what game the BBC was showing and nothing but tennis, feeling kinda sad. 7 games left Link to post Share on other sites
westy8chimp 1,658 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 24 minutes ago, enigmatic said: risk of sounding like an even bigger troll than westy Nah this is my foul rep preceding me here... I havent trolled, ive given my opinion of the game and why i lack the support and joy of the consensus. BC is captain troll but it goes largely unnoticed. 'kane one goal away from being officially better than pele'... No one has or will ever out troll that nonsense Link to post Share on other sites
Vynal Seven 2,679 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bliss Seeker said: 7 games left Only 3 and a half years to the next World Cup though. Link to post Share on other sites
Bigwig 2,486 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 8 games left. How dare you disrespect the third place play-off. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Hodgy 316 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, westy8chimp said: Nah this is my foul rep preceding me here... I havent trolled, ive given my opinion of the game and why i lack the support and joy of the consensus. BC is captain troll but it goes largely unnoticed. 'kane one goal away from being officially better than pele'... No one has or will ever out troll that nonsense Nope BC is simply living in the moment as the rest of us are and it's a bit of hysteria Kane being better than Pele. I didn't even know who you were before this thread so it's not reputation, it's the fact you're English and supporting everyone else but your nation and backing it up with bs like purist football. You are a troll and are clearly very good at it as most posts are directed at you since the end of the game Edited July 4, 2018 by Hodgy 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Pukey 2,378 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, westy8chimp said: I havent trolled You're an Englishman actively supporting the opposition on some weird high horse mentality of "good football" so either you're a troll or an idiot. Or both of course. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Wiggins Top Boys 1,410 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Barry Cartman said: https://streamable.com/r07en How did we end up with the same amount of Yellows in all of this From 50 secs on, watch all the Colombian players wrecking the penalty spot absolutely embarrassing that the ref allowed this to happen, he could have booked the entire colombian team for that 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Readingfanman 472 Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, Bliss Seeker said: 7 games left 8 games, there's a third place playoff. Savour the extra 90 minutes! Link to post Share on other sites
Barry Cartman 6,451 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, westy8chimp said: BC is captain troll but it goes largely unnoticed. 'kane one goal away from being officially better than pele'... No one has or will ever out troll that nonsense He's 1 goal away from having more goals at a World Cup than Pele, but we shouldn't count them because they weren't footage in Black and White from 50 years ago where goalies seemingly just watch tame shoots fly past them a yard away 1 Link to post Share on other sites
westy8chimp 1,658 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Barry Cartman said: where goalies seemingly just watch tame shoots fly past them a yard away Lol vs the best keepers in the world at that time. They stood still because he was mesmeric. He wasn't good enough though to score without knowing though... he should probably have stood still more with back to goal and let people kick it at his heels... then he might be as good as Kane. Back then you had to do very well to get a penalty... he was kicked to pieces without so much as a freekick... but Kane feels an arm round him and goes down and scores a few pens.... GOAT? Link to post Share on other sites
Crispypaul 988 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 minute ago, westy8chimp said: Back then you had to do very well to get a penalty... That's because nobody bothered to press so you had ages to do anything anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
Readingfanman 472 Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 Kane isn't scoring past the best keepers in the world, despite him also being at a World Cup, the same way Pele was? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Barry Cartman 6,451 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, westy8chimp said: Back then you had to do very well to get a penalty Yeah because from the footage you shown, nobody made any tackles Link to post Share on other sites
westy8chimp 1,658 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Yes Ospina - if we had a thread about best GK in the EPL and I said Ospina... oh yeh I'm a troll again Tunisian keeper lined up for a huge transfer after his performance? Who was the Panama keeper again? Pele (58) scored a hatrick vs France - their GK at the time Claude Abbes of St Etienne was known as one of the best in Europe and had just won the French lg title He scored a brace vs favorites Sweden in the final Link to post Share on other sites
Barry Cartman 6,451 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Best goalies IN THE WORLD! Link to post Share on other sites
Barry Cartman 6,451 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, westy8chimp said: Pele (58) scored a hatrick vs France - their GK at the time Claude Abbes of St Etienne was known as one of the best in Europe and had just won the French lg title He scored a brace vs favorites Sweden in the final I thought it wasn't about the stats, it was about the purity of football? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Cedrik 207 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) It's a bit useless to compare football from that time with the game now, so much has changed. Btw, what is your point? Are you that frustrated with the fact that some people are not completely over the top in awe with the things Kane has shown so far? Don't forget there is still the game against Sweden left, and who knows what to follow. Kane has more than enough time to convince everyone. Edited July 4, 2018 by Cedrik Link to post Share on other sites
Marc.Foster050 91 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said: Best goalies IN THE WORLD! Some great finishes in there I'm struggling to see your point Link to post Share on other sites
m_fenton 1,519 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 These 2 just proving that sometimes BOTH sides of an argument are wrong 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Barry Cartman 6,451 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Marc.Foster050 said: Some great finishes in there I'm struggling to see your point I don't really have a point, it was him who shown the clip of Pele as some sort of reason why we shouldn't celebrate Kane's performances at the WC Link to post Share on other sites
G-Man11 2,215 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 22 hours ago, Readingfanman said: Such a football hipster. IF England win, I'm sure you'll be happy at least a little bit. Looks like I might be forced to join you England fans . Sisters BF just got back from 2 weeks in Jamaica for a funeral (so luckily I've not had to discuss the WC with him yet) and now is determined to drag me to watch the England match in front of a big screen with England fans, like some of you he just can't understand/accept I'm not into the England side . Couldn't think of anything worse to do with my Saturday but I also know he's one of those people who simply wont take no for an answer. Link to post Share on other sites
bestbrother 1,418 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Razzler said: "Refused" Basically, something like he didnt feel confident or ready to take one. How they know that, idk, but its Talksport, so its gospel Link to post Share on other sites
craigcwwe 4,043 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 34 minutes ago, westy8chimp said: Nah this is my foul rep preceding me here... I havent trolled, ive given my opinion of the game and why i lack the support and joy of the consensus. BC is captain troll but it goes largely unnoticed. 'kane one goal away from being officially better than pele'... No one has or will ever out troll that nonsense Because he was joking? Link to post Share on other sites
Barry Cartman 6,451 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 What a 24 Hours Link to post Share on other sites
Heartwork 1,730 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Diego Maradona in "pot calling the kettle black" shocker: 3 Link to post Share on other sites
craigcwwe 4,043 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Who cares what that gobshite has to say? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Barry Cartman 6,451 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, craigcwwe said: Who cares what that gobshite has to say? I wonder who will agree in here... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Heartwork 1,730 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I just think it's hilarious. He has no self-awareness. Link to post Share on other sites
Baptista_8 951 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 22 minutes ago, G-Man11 said: Looks like I might be forced to join you England fans . Sisters BF just got back from 2 weeks in Jamaica for a funeral (so luckily I've not had to discuss the WC with him yet) and now is determined to drag me to watch the England match in front of a big screen with England fans, like some of you he just can't understand/accept I'm not into the England side . Couldn't think of anything worse to do with my Saturday but I also know he's one of those people who simply wont take no for an answer. I thought you were an Aussie for some reason Link to post Share on other sites
toon_84 1,687 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, Heartwork said: Diego Maradona in "pot calling the kettle black" shocker: He's just keeping the Colombians sweet so he can get the best wholesale prices 1 Link to post Share on other sites
westy8chimp 1,658 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said: I wonder who will agree in here... Kane 2018 WC > Maradonna 1986 WC Link to post Share on other sites
Readingfanman 472 Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 30 minutes ago, G-Man11 said: Looks like I might be forced to join you England fans . Sisters BF just got back from 2 weeks in Jamaica for a funeral (so luckily I've not had to discuss the WC with him yet) and now is determined to drag me to watch the England match in front of a big screen with England fans, like some of you he just can't understand/accept I'm not into the England side . Couldn't think of anything worse to do with my Saturday but I also know he's one of those people who simply wont take no for an answer. Embrace it Link to post Share on other sites
gavo01 88 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Maradonna is a cheating. lying, fat Argentinian scumbag. I don't like feeling hate towards people but I'll make an exception for this guy. When he goes I'm more likely to fly to his very secret grave and p*** all over it than to shed a tear. Link to post Share on other sites
Barry Cartman 6,451 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, westy8chimp said: Kane 2018 WC > Maradonna 1986 WC Glad you've seen the light Link to post Share on other sites
Heartwork 1,730 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I mean if anyone's gonna be an authority on cheating at a World Cup... Link to post Share on other sites
Wiggins Top Boys 1,410 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Just speaking to a Colombian friend of mine who lives back there now, the line out there is genuinely the Pekerman/Maradona ****. Gringo puta ref was our 12th man, Kane dived for the penalty, we're all cheats, Colombian players are heroes. amazing 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Barry Cartman 6,451 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, Heartwork said: I mean if anyone's gonna be an authority on cheating at a World Cup... He's just pissed off his main dealer has gone 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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