bestbrother Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Jugoslavia in the 1/2s then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliss Seeker Posted July 7, 2018 Author Share Posted July 7, 2018 Don't have to deal with the Russian nonsense, and have home crowd support now. It's coming home guys. Mental! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Against a team that's played 240 minutes in the last two games, hope they're knackered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Croatia are knackered. It's coming home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon_84 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Surely Paddy Power paying out on England outright bets is imminent? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Honestly, England is a better matchup for Croatia, but it goes both ways. Croatia has always had trouble with breaking down defensive teams, because all of the offensive starters are more suited to open games where they get more space. Should finally be a proper game instead of one team defending for 90% of it's duration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, Pukey said: Against a team that's played 240 minutes in the last two games, hope they're knackered. In fairness that last game was walking pace, it says wonders that not a single player went down with cramp. Normally you see at least 3 or 4 going down in 120 minutes, add to that 4 days rest, I hardly think it will be an issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Croatian players were dropping like flies that match and were only not subbed out because they used all of them. They also played 2 straight intense games into penalties. England should be relishing this match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 1 minute ago, adhikapp said: Croatian players were dropping like flies that match and were only not subbed out because they used all of them. They also played 2 straight intense games into penalties. England should be relishing this match. It's the world cup semi final. That will have no effect. Kane was dead against Colombia and he looked fine today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Your definition of "intense games" must differ from mine, the Croatia vs Russia game was pretty much walking pace, hardly intense. Also if you look at Kane in the last 16 game he was knackered, absolutely done after 75 minutes, he seemed fine the next game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Christ @GunmaN1905 we typed that at the same time, we could be on to something! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, daylight said: Christ @GunmaN1905 we typed that at the same time, we could be on to something! Great (or not so great) minds think alike? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
claassen Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 France-England in final and France win Pogba and Kanté will make the difference in midfield Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon_84 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 37 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said: Great (or not so great) minds think alike? Great minds think alike but fools seldom differ is the one you're looking for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon_84 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, claassen said: France-England in final and France win Pogba and Kanté will make the difference in midfield Mr YouTube and a midget. I bet Jordan Henderson is ******** himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 5 hours ago, GunmaN1905 said: It just doesn't feel right. Possibly a Croatia-England semifinal, should be like 20k of each in the stands, and instead we'll have theatre atmoshpere. Hell, if someone told me 10 years ago that I wouldn't care about Croatia getting in the semis of WC and that I would have no interest of finding a way to get a ticket, I'd laugh it off. But here we are. Why don't you care? Should be a cracker of a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Pub was loud!!! Roll on the school night Can't wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Daylight etc right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, pearcey_90 said: Daylight etc right now Why me? Loving it at the moment to be honest, If Russia had won I would have been a bit down, let's be honest here, England have had enough luck. Not sure why you would single me out though, I've hardly been anti England, this squad is quite likeable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 1 minute ago, daylight said: Why me? Loving it at the moment to be honest, If Russia had won I would have been a bit down, let's be honest here, England have had enough luck. Not sure why you would single me out though, I've hardly been anti England, this squad is quite likeable. What luck have England had? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Just now, Andrew_ said: What luck have England had? The whole route, you haven't had to play any good side yet. Let's not turn this into a "we haven't had any luck", of course you have, I have never seen any easier route to the semi's. It doesn't mater though, you have beaten who you had to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Andrew_ said: What luck have England had? I think he's referring to the easy group and route to the final (should you get there). Considering there was talk of Germany/Brazil in the Quarters, Sweden is a bit easier by comparison Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Just now, daylight said: The whole route, you haven't had to play any good side yet. Let's not turn this into a "we haven't had any luck", of course you have, I have never seen any easier route to the semi's. It doesn't mater though, you have beaten who you had to. Croatia have had it easy too, to be fair. Group of Iceland, Nigeria, Argentina, Croatia. Denmark L16, Russia QFs, England SFs. Marginally harder than England's, by virtue of having to play the hosts I suppose. Also the group was tougher but not by a great deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted July 7, 2018 Administrators Share Posted July 7, 2018 Hardly England's fault bigger sides have crapped the bed and didn't end up in our half of the draw though. This stuff about weaker teams, easy route being luck is nonsense really. England have no control over that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Only thing i would call lucky is the goal Kane got off his heel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 1 minute ago, JDownie said: Croatia have had it easy too, to be fair. Group of Iceland, Nigeria, Argentina, Croatia. Denmark L16, Russia QFs, England SFs. Marginally harder than England's, by virtue of having to play the hosts I suppose. Also the group was tougher but not by a great deal. Iceland and Argentina is tougher than Englands group, I think England would have struggled against at least 2 of those. I really think it will be a great semi between England and Croatia, both sides like to go forward, certainly better than seeing one side trying to break the other down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted July 7, 2018 Administrators Share Posted July 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Andrew_ said: Only thing i would call lucky is the goal Kane got off his heel. Yeah that was pretty mad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afced7 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, daylight said: The whole route, you haven't had to play any good side yet. Let's not turn this into a "we haven't had any luck", of course you have, I have never seen any easier route to the semi's. It doesn't mater though, you have beaten who you had to. Croatia have literally had one in this tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Lucas Weatherby said: Hardly England's fault bigger sides have crapped the bed and didn't end up in our half of the draw though. This stuff about weaker teams, easy route being luck is nonsense really. England have no control over that. Oh BS, no team "crapped the bed", it's called luck as that is how it turned out, England got lucky how the draw from their side went, no one said they had control over it, they got LUCKY how it worked out. Maybe google 'lucky'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, afced7 said: Croatia have literally had one in this tournament. Argentina and Iceland? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afced7 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 1 minute ago, daylight said: Oh BS, no team "crapped the bed", it's called luck as that is how it turned out, England got lucky how the draw from their side went, no one said they had control over it, they got LUCKY how it worked out. Maybe google 'lucky'. Germany and Spain? Have you actually followed this World Cup? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted July 7, 2018 Administrators Share Posted July 7, 2018 1 minute ago, daylight said: Oh BS, no team "crapped the bed", it's called luck as that is how it turned out, England got lucky how the draw from their side went, no one said they had control over it, they got LUCKY how it worked out. Maybe google 'lucky'. But it wasn't by chance though All teams played their matches, and yes, it's how it turned out. But it wasn't a lottery or a coin toss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afced7 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 1 minute ago, daylight said: Germany and Iceland? You'll have to point me in the direction of the Croatia - Germany match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted July 7, 2018 Administrators Share Posted July 7, 2018 Yeah, I'm sure its just luck that both England and Belgium fielded weaker sides and England happened to lose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Just now, afced7 said: Germany and Spain? Have you actually followed this World Cup? That's not in England's hand, they played who they played, they got lucky how the draw went for them. This is what I hate, England have done well but they have had a lot of luck, now you get the posters going overboard, it's all good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Love how before every game England fans are called out as arrogant if we think the opposition might not be all that, but then as soon as the game is over we discover that actually, yes, we were playing the most hopeless teams ever. In reality, Colombia and Sweden are two very good teams. Croatia are an extremely good team we face in the semis. Maybe we're lucky that a major tournament is happening which is pretty wide open, but that luck applies to every team in the tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted July 7, 2018 Administrators Share Posted July 7, 2018 Just now, daylight said: they have had a lot of luck This is complete rubbish. Belgium winning was not luck on England's behalf, regardless of the other groups and games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 England have beaten what's in front of them when the other teams haven't. It's an easier draw now sure, but hardly England being lucky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpain16 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Why on Earth should it matter who England faced. No one will care years from now. You don't get to the semis by chance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, afced7 said: You'll have to point me in the direction of the Croatia - Germany match. I already corrected this before you posted. 7 minutes ago, Lucas Weatherby said: This is complete rubbish. Belgium winning was not luck on England's behalf, regardless of the other groups and games. You are a nightmare! I have said before that both B sides tried to win that game, England actually got lucky they didn't win, they got the easier side, they have had luck here, if you don't see that then fair enough! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 England got lucky that Ibrahimovic retired. And Larsson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Andrew_ said: And Larsson. See this guy gets it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted July 7, 2018 Administrators Share Posted July 7, 2018 Larsson 2 minutes ago, daylight said: I have said before that both B sides tried to win that game, England actually got lucky they didn't win, they got the easier side, they have had luck here, if you don't see that then fair enough! I don't really subscribe to the view that losing to Belgium was lucky. I thought we were unlucky in that game as it was fairly even. There's no real easy games in a World Cup, you can only beat what is in front of you, and I'd say luck comes down to individual moments of matches etc like Kane's backheel, or Griezmann's goal against Uruguay, not the actual draw as it pans out because its pre-determined where group stage winners and RUs pair up in the knockout rounds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afced7 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, daylight said: I already corrected this before you posted. You are a nightmare! I have said before that both B sides never tried to win that game, England actually got lucky they didn't win, they got the easier side, they have had luck here, if you don't see that then fair enough! If you say so, in any case Belgium are probably better than Argentina, although facing Belgium last was way better than playing Argentina second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Point proven. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigmore Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 It’s 11.40pm. My housemate is asleep on the floor in my living room having spent the taxi ride home with his head out the sunroof doing the John Barnes rap. Another friend is asleep on my sofa after mainly spending the entire day throwing beer everywhere. I’m in bed suffering with a bit of sun burn. But what a day... what a day! World Cup Semi Final, in my lifetime, amazing. I can’t imagine what the hell is going to happen to this country if we get to a final, let alone win it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Lucas Weatherby said: Larsson I don't really subscribe to the view that losing to Belgium was lucky. I thought we were unlucky in that game as it was fairly even. There's no real easy games in a World Cup, you can only beat what is in front of you, and I'd say luck comes down to individual moments of matches etc like Kane's backheel, or Griezmann's goal against Uruguay, not the actual draw as it pans out because its pre-determined where group stage winners and RUs pair up in the knockout rounds. I don't think this English side could beat Brazil and then France, beating Sweden and then Croatia, yes they can, surely that has to be classed as luck how the draw worked out? While there is maybe no 'easy' games in the World Cup, (I think it was easy against Panama no?), you have had a very nice route to the semi's. I said it earlier this week, if this was an England side from say 2006 they would steamroll this World Cup, it's all about timing. The England sides from the early 00's is better than this side, but here we are and this side is going for the final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, Wigmore said: It’s 11.40pm. My housemate is asleep on the floor in my living room having spent the taxi ride home with his head out the sunroof doing the John Barnes rap. Another friend is asleep on my sofa after mainly spending the entire day throwing beer everywhere. I’m in bed suffering with a bit of sun burn. But what a day... what a day! World Cup Semi Final, in my lifetime, amazing. I can’t imagine what the hell is going to happen to this country if we get to a final, let alone win it. If England win this country will shut down for at least a month as no way anyone is going to work after it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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