PMLF Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 The most important game of round 1 starts in a few hours. Lineups: Brazil have not lost their debut game since 1934, when Brazil were beaten 1-3 by Spain. Brazil only lost the debut game twice (1930 and 1934) and have won the last 9 debut games. All debut games (In Portuguese): Quote 1930 – BRASIL 1 x 2 IUGOSLÁVIA – Preguinho (62’) 1934 – BRASIL 1 x 3 ESPANHA – Leônidas (55’) 1938 – BRASIL 6 x 5 POLÔNIA – Leônidas (18’,93’ e 104’), Romeu (25’) e Perácio (44’ e 71’) 1950 – BRASIL 4 x 0 MÉXICO – Ademir Menezes (30’ e 79’), Jair (65’) e Baltazar (71’) 1954 – BRASIL 5 x 0 MÉXICO – Baltazar (23’), Didi (30’), Pinga (34’ e 43’) e Julinho (65’) 1958 – BRASIL 3 x 0 ÁUSTRIA – Mazzola (38’ e 89’) e Nilton Santos (49’) 1962 – BRASIL 2 x 0 MÉXICO – Zagallo (56’) e Pelé (73’) 1966 – BRASIL 2 x 0 BULGÁRIA – Pelé (15’) e Garrincha (63’) 1970 – BRASIL 4 x 1 TCHECOSLOVÁQUIA – Rivelino (24’), Pelé (59’) e Jairzinho (61’ e 83’) 1974 – BRASIL 0 x 0 IUGOSLÁVIA 1978 – BRASIL 1 x 1 SUÉCIA – Reinaldo (45’) 1982 – BRASIL 2 x 1 UNIÃO SOVIÉTICA – Sócrates (75’) e Eder (88’) 1986 – BRASIL 1 x 0 ESPANHA – Sócrates (62’) 1990 – BRASIL 2 x 1 SUÉCIA – Careca (40’ e 63’) 1994 – BRASIL 2 x 0 RÚSSIA – Romário (26’) e Raí (52’ penalty) 1998 – BRASIL 2 x 1 ESCÓCIA – Cesar Sampaio (5’) e Tom Boyd (74’ contra) 2002 – BRASIL 2 x 1 TURQUIA – Ronaldo (50’) e Rivaldo (87’ penalty) 2006 – BRASIL 1 x 0 CROÁCIA – Kaká (44’) 2010 – BRASIL 2 x 1 CORÉIA DO NORTE – Maicon (55’) e Elano (72’) 2014 – BRASIL 3 x 1 CROÁCIA - Neymar (29’ e 71’ penalty) e Oscar (90’) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, PMLF said: 2014 – BRASIL 3 x 1 CROÁCIA - Neymar (29’ e 71’ penalty) e Oscar (90’) Ah yea, the ridiculous penalty and Naymar not getting a red card. Good game. I fully expect Brazil to win the group with 9 points and close to +10 goal difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 minute ago, GunmaN1905 said: Ah yea, the ridiculous penalty and Naymar not getting a red card. Good game. I fully expect Brazil to win the group with 9 points and close to +10 goal difference. Yes. I believe it will be something like: Brazil 2-0 Switzerland Brazil 4-0 Costa Rica Brazil 3-0 Serbia Then Brazil will be overconfident and probably lose at some point in the playoffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 Brazil's locker room: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Never really seen Alisson play on a consistent basis but must be really good if he is keeping Ederson out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantine Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Expecting Brazil to win but Switzerland will be tough nut to crack. Watched them against Spain, they were well organized in defense although not at all threatening going forward. It was just lucky De Gea's blunder that gave them equalizer. 1-0, Neymar to score some wonder goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Spain were not incisive enough which is often the case despite them getting 3 against Portugal. Brazil will be a lot more ruthless. I am predicting 3-0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, ReggaeBwoy said: Never really seen Alisson play on a consistent basis but must be really good if he is keeping Ederson out. He is better than Ederson for sure but I don't trust either of them. Alisson used to be pretty insecure and Ederson is reckless. The main reason Alisson is a starter though is because goalkeeping coach Taffarel likes him. And Alisson also has the advantage of having played for a few years for Internacional while Ederson is relatively unknown in Brazil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Constantine said: Expecting Brazil to win but Switzerland will be tough nut to crack. Watched them against Spain, they were well organized in defense although not at all threatening going forward. It was just lucky De Gea's blunder that gave them equalizer. 1-0, Neymar to score some wonder goal. 3 minutes ago, ReggaeBwoy said: Spain were not incisive enough which is often the case despite them getting 3 against Portugal. Brazil will be a lot more ruthless. I am predicting 3-0. My guess is a 2-0 win for Brazil. Neymar and Gabriel Jesus will score the goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon_84 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 The Swiss are very organised at the back but Brazil have enough quality to break them down. I'm going for a very nervy 1-0 to Brazil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PMLF Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 Hopefully Gabriel Jesus will do well so all those Firmino fans on Twitter, etc will shut up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOORAY HENRIK Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Neymar hat trick please. My fantasy team so far has been shocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Have we had any predictable Joga Bonito compilations yet where British TV tries to convince us that every Brazilian player started out playing streetball in the favelas and they all play like a Ronaldinho YouTube video? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayihavecookie Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Honestly think this is the best Swiss team we ever had. Group stage out would be a shock. I think we can win a point today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, HOORAY HENRIK said: Neymar hat trick please. My fantasy team so far has been shocking. Can I have one as well? I've got an excellent defence, but the rest of my team's letting me down. Considering how the last match turned out, I'll be more conservative with my prediction for this one... 2-1 Brazil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Keane always looks so unhappy to be there. Like he's being forced to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordan Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 3-0 Brazil. Unless Brazil going for 2nd place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 22 minutes ago, mayihavecookie said: Honestly think this is the best Swiss team we ever had. Group stage out would be a shock. I think we can win a point today. Has Seferović improved his finishing? Because whenever I watched him play he was tragic in that depertment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
decapitated Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Before today I would have considered there would have been more change of Switzerland beating Brazil than Mexico beating Germany I Still think Brazil will win, but it won't be a walkover, and its not certain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 1-0 to the Swiss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Nordan said: 3-0 Brazil. Unless Brazil going for 2nd place. Brazil can't go for second place in the group or they will be crucified by the media and fans here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantine Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Wouldn't mind that But nah, Brazil is just too OP on this tournament Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordan Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Just now, PMLF said: Brazil can't go for second place in the group or they will be crucified by the media and fans here. But....you've told me no one cares over there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayihavecookie Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 vor 3 Minuten schrieb GunmaN1905: Has Seferović improved his finishing? Because whenever I watched him play he was tragic in that depertment. I like Seferovic as he's a hard working player, but he's never been a good finisher and the last season where he has hardly played will not have helped him improve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Nordan said: But....you've told me no one cares over there. No one cares during 99% of the time, but people care during the World Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Brazil's best route would be to play against Germany right after the group and exorcise those demons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Giving this one my full attention so i am expecting it to be boring as.. low scoring and possibly a late Swiss upset. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Four pundits for a game is ridiculously excessive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 Just now, GunmaN1905 said: Brazil's best route would be to play against Germany right after the group and exorcise those demons. The risk is losing and getting even more traumatized. But I think Brazil would be favorites this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Well, you're Brazil. If you don't win, nobody will care if you got to the finals or got knocked out in the group. And getting rid of Germany right away would be the best possible outcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayihavecookie Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 7 of the players starting today (Allison, Casemiro, Coutinho, Neymar - Rodriguez, Xhaka, Seferovic) faced each other in the U17s World Cup in 2009. Switzerland won 1:0 on their way to the title back then. Wouldn't mind them repeating this today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordan Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, PMLF said: No one cares during 99% of the time, but people care during the World Cup. World Cup and the World Club Championship....Cup. 3-0 it is then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 minute ago, mayihavecookie said: 7 of the players starting today (Allison, Casemiro, Coutinho, Neymar - Rodriguez, Xhaka, Seferovic) faced each other in the U17s World Cup in 2009. Switzerland won 1:0 on their way to the title back then. Wouldn't mind them repeating this today. It's kind of impressive how 7 out of 22 players today played that game. Moving from U17 to U20 to senior is not so easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Is it in their contract that they have to look so down and depressed? Say what you want about Wright's opinions, he is at least happy to be there and smiles. It's supposed to be fun.... right??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordan Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Neymar's hair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Camera man having a stare down with T.Silva Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 This tweet shows well how Silva is the most common surname in Brazil: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Our anthem is so boring compared to others. Brazil's is a real foot tapper! Though saying that the Swiss one is a bit dreary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Weezer said: Though saying that the Swiss one is a bit dreary. Yeah, when there's like 3 Swiss players actually playing for the NT. Quote Our anthem is so boring compared to others. Brazil's is a real foot tapper! Why? I always thought it's the highlight of English NT performance at every big tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Weezer said: Our anthem is so boring compared to others. Brazil's is a real foot tapper! Though saying that the Swiss one is a bit dreary. If we win the World Cup, we should be allowed to change it to something better like Tubthumping by Chumbawamba Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordan Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Nothing wrong with Francisco Venancio, still he chose Casemiro ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 ****ing cliches about Brazilians already ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 Just now, G-Man11 said: ****ing cliches about Brazilians already ffs. Every WC this happens in foreign press, as if all previous 20 boring Brazilian squads never existed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Yeah, I'll take your commentators over mine who's saying Brazil didn't have a top keeper since Taffarel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Just now, PMLF said: Every WC this happens in foreign press, as if all previous 20 boring Brazilian squads never existed. Apparently Miranda would just never make a no-nonsense clearance because Brazilian CB's don't do that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 Just now, G-Man11 said: Apparently Miranda would just never make a no-nonsense clearance because Brazilian CB's don't do that It seems they really have never watched Brazilian football. We even have a colloquial word for this kind of no-nonsense CB: zagueiro-zagueiro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 minute ago, GunmaN1905 said: Yeah, I'll take your commentators over mine who's saying Brazil didn't have a top keeper since Taffarel. Yes, that's pretty silly, Brazil had good goalkeepers both before and after Taffarel. But it's a cliché that Brazil only have good attackers and (attacking) fullbacks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
decapitated Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 What was Xhaka doing there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grff Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Not card for Xhaka?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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