The New FMCU General Discussion Thread

[Mandy42]

22 hours ago, -Jef- said:

What do you do to spice things up?

nutella and edible underwear can help! 

 

OH! you mean in the football manager save! 

I've just sacked my U18 and U23 managers so I can have control over all of the teams. I also have a list of "home made achievements" to keep track of, some of them are season by season, others are much longer term. For instance tracking how my players fare in trying to beat Alan Shearer's premier league goals record, is a long term goal. While another is winning every competition I'm entered in over the course of a season.

After that I have a long term club goal for becoming the most successful English club of all time (I have the stats for honours won by English clubs off wikipedia). I take the stats as the baseline at the start of the save and add any new trophies clubs win from the game world. 

specific to your save, could you take an international managers job at the same time? give you something "different" if you feel the next few years are gonna be the same.

[deltablue]

Who remembers Vogel?

[Deisler26]

3 hours ago, deltablue said:

Who remembers Vogel?

Who can forget?

[Jimbokav1971]

Nicknames are back and working properly. 

[Jimbokav1971]

 

[deltablue]

I can't remember if I've mentioned it before but last year I felt inspired to try a side save with an English lower league database, and to play it more often recently. It really is a different world even from the smaller playable leagues, including in matters of player fitness and the basic mistakes made by players on the pitch. It's great fun.

I naturally wanted to start in Kent ('proper' Kent specifically, no London suburbs) so chose Rusthall from Tunbridge Wells in the Kent Invicta League (as it was then called), all the way down in Level 10. I got promoted in the first season as well as winning a cup. It was a cup only featuring the 17 teams from this particular division and with 4 promotion spots, but still. In fact only a spring slump denied us a double when were were otherwise running away with the league, and even then we were within a whisker of recovering enough to snatch it anyway. This was despite being predicted to be down in mid-table and having no budgetary room to do anything in the first pre-season. I couldn't even offer a contract to a greyed-out forward (we had none at all) though thankfully someone else could so we got him anyway. Oh and most of the players in a lot of the teams were 16-17.

We found ourselves in the Sussex Premier League instead of the Kent equivalent but that was actually for the better as there were far more teams and fewer relegation places. We hit the round running but then fell away. We were comfortably safe from relegation even with a late-season free-fall but the board were hoping for a proper mid-table spot. I had hoped that having strengthened a lot after promotion we'de benefit from a more settled team the following season but things looked precarious enough job-wise to resign with 2 matches to do.

In that second season at Rusthall I was actually offered the job at Dorchester in the Conference South but there were a few reasons why I wasn't interested. One of those was that I know that sometimes people play 'realistically' and have rules in place about only being able to move up one division with a new job, and I decided to do something similar. 3 divisions just seemed too big a jump to be interesting, while there was also nothing about Dorchester or most other clubs at that level to be appealing anyway, as big a relative step up as it would be. I wanted to stick to the highest level I'd been promoted to so that meant a Level 9 club, with interest from Guiseley (in the Conference North) providing reassurance that I could have my pick of clubs at that low level.

I ended up with AFC Liverpool, who had failed to get promoted back to Level 8 but thankfully with only 1 promotion place and no playoffs, 'top half' was the next highest expectation available. The quality of the players was clearly superior to what I had at Rusthall. I got through the pre-season and into the actual season today, losing the first league game, only narrowly squeaking past the team who are propping up the league at this early stage and going out of the cup to a Level 10 team (at home) I switch tactics and we've utterly torn apart our next three opponents in the league (even if they might not have been the most challenging) to be a point off top after 5 matches despite the opening day defeat. I reckon we've got a very good chance of getting the league and sole promotion spot if we keep it up, even if it looks like I'll be moving up the leagues bit by bit rather than taking a particular club up quite a few divisions.

[Deisler26]

12 hours ago, deltablue said:

I can't remember if I've mentioned it before but last year I felt inspired to try a side save with an English lower league database, and to play it more often recently. It really is a different world even from the smaller playable leagues, including in matters of player fitness and the basic mistakes made by players on the pitch. It's great fun.

I naturally wanted to start in Kent ('proper' Kent specifically, no London suburbs) so chose Rusthall from Tunbridge Wells in the Kent Invicta League (as it was then called), all the way down in Level 10. I got promoted in the first season as well as winning a cup. It was a cup only featuring the 17 teams from this particular division and with 4 promotion spots, but still. In fact only a spring slump denied us a double when were were otherwise running away with the league, and even then we were within a whisker of recovering enough to snatch it anyway. This was despite being predicted to be down in mid-table and having no budgetary room to do anything in the first pre-season. I couldn't even offer a contract to a greyed-out forward (we had none at all) though thankfully someone else could so we got him anyway. Oh and most of the players in a lot of the teams were 16-17.

We found ourselves in the Sussex Premier League instead of the Kent equivalent but that was actually for the better as there were far more teams and fewer relegation places. We hit the round running but then fell away. We were comfortably safe from relegation even with a late-season free-fall but the board were hoping for a proper mid-table spot. I had hoped that having strengthened a lot after promotion we'de benefit from a more settled team the following season but things looked precarious enough job-wise to resign with 2 matches to do.

In that second season at Rusthall I was actually offered the job at Dorchester in the Conference South but there were a few reasons why I wasn't interested. One of those was that I know that sometimes people play 'realistically' and have rules in place about only being able to move up one division with a new job, and I decided to do something similar. 3 divisions just seemed too big a jump to be interesting, while there was also nothing about Dorchester or most other clubs at that level to be appealing anyway, as big a relative step up as it would be. I wanted to stick to the highest level I'd been promoted to so that meant a Level 9 club, with interest from Guiseley (in the Conference North) providing reassurance that I could have my pick of clubs at that low level.

I ended up with AFC Liverpool, who had failed to get promoted back to Level 8 but thankfully with only 1 promotion place and no playoffs, 'top half' was the next highest expectation available. The quality of the players was clearly superior to what I had at Rusthall. I got through the pre-season and into the actual season today, losing the first league game, only narrowly squeaking past the team who are propping up the league at this early stage and going out of the cup to a Level 10 team (at home) I switch tactics and we've utterly torn apart our next three opponents in the league (even if they might not have been the most challenging) to be a point off top after 5 matches despite the opening day defeat. I reckon we've got a very good chance of getting the league and sole promotion spot if we keep it up, even if it looks like I'll be moving up the leagues bit by bit rather than taking a particular club up quite a few divisions.

Tunbridge Wells isn't 'proper' Kent. You should have come to Chatham Town. That's propah Kennnnt 

[deltablue]

17 minutes ago, Deisler26 said:

Tunbridge Wells isn't 'proper' Kent. You should have come to Chatham Town. That's propah Kennnnt 

Technically Medway is a unitary authority with its own jurisdiction seperate from the rest of the county.   I just wanted to avoid the areas that were actually London, and Dartford which might as well be in London anyway and only counts as part of Kent with a certain generosity of spirit. That ruled out quite a few teams actually

[Deisler26]

13 minutes ago, deltablue said:

Technically Medway is a unitary authority with its own jurisdiction seperate from the rest of the county.

Must be why we're such arseholes 

[deez0r]

Always nice getting into a new save @deltablue.

If anyone is struggling for a save I highly recommend going lower league Belgium. As part of my European Tour I am now there and loving it so far. Only 3 playable leagues but in that 3rd league there is so many great potential youngsters that it's such fun to play in. In 2 seasons I have brought in around 30 or 40 players and my whole first team is under 20!

Great for anyone who also enjoys youth development! 

[Maw74]

This seems a bit harsh.

Yeah the pen would have made it 1-1 but his team mates hardly covered themselves in glory after that, 

[Minuy600]

Tried again. Went to Wallis & Futuna, a supposedly extremely easy competition for how weak it is. Did everything right. Lost the first two games anyway.

I'm extremely tired of this. All I want is to have fun and at least have incidental successes like everyone else. What the hell is wrong with me to make me so desperately terrible?

[Ronaldo Beckham]

1 hour ago, Minuy600 said:

Tried again. Went to Wallis & Futuna, a supposedly extremely easy competition for how weak it is. Did everything right. Lost the first two games anyway.

I'm extremely tired of this. All I want is to have fun and at least have incidental successes like everyone else. What the hell is wrong with me to make me so desperately terrible?

Don't worry mate. I feel the same when I play Fifa 21 and yet I still go back for more punishment.

Have you thought about downloading some tactics to give you a helping hand ?

[Minuy600]

11 hours ago, Ronaldo Beckham said:

Don't worry mate. I feel the same when I play Fifa 21 and yet I still go back for more punishment.

Have you thought about downloading some tactics to give you a helping hand ?

Yeah I also suffer on FIFA quite badly, but at least I can adjust the difficulty for that and leaves a bit more room for mistakes, I feel.

I'm very much not for downloading tactics, it seems like cheating and I am not that way. Though if this keeps going on, I might eventually have to.

[oriole01]

So I wasn't quite able to let go of my Ajax Cape Town FM19 save after calling quits on the thread I did here. After ending the thread I kept playing and made Ajax the dominant force in South Africa, but the CAF Champions League kept eluding us. But now after 7 seasons we've finally done it, winning 7-1 over the Algerian team that knocked us out at the quarter final stage last year, with our club legend 34-year-old Thabo Mosadi scoring two goals including a 30-yard curler in his final game as a player. I'm so unbelievably proud of this team!

Kinda started crying after this went in!

[Mandy42]

13 hours ago, oriole01 said:

Kinda started crying after this went in!

That's why they call it the beautiful game, great story! 

[Muttley84]

What have been people playing in March in UEFA leagues? Overall a better spread across Europe that the previous month, but the UK still dominates in numbers of threads. A fair deal of long-term careers ending in this period (might be related to the new update and people wanting a fresh start). You won't see my career on the map as I have yet to decide where to start...

[Cheez3y]

Yay, finally on the map.

[Ronaldo Beckham]

@Muttley84Have you added me as I am manager RC Abidjan in Ivory Coast ?

[Muttley84]

1 hour ago, Ronaldo Beckham said:

@Muttley84Have you added me as I am manager RC Abidjan in Ivory Coast ?

As stated only presenting European leagues in the map.

[Ronaldo Beckham]

Just now, Muttley84 said:

As stated only presenting European leagues in the map.

Yeah I just noticed lol. No worries buddy.

Is there any countries in Europe not represented so far then ?

[Mandy42]

2 hours ago, Ronaldo Beckham said:

Yeah I just noticed lol. No worries buddy.

Is there any countries in Europe not represented so far then ?

don't see anyone in Denmark or Finland on the map

[Ronaldo Beckham]

1 minute ago, Mandy42 said:

don't see anyone in Denmark or Finland on the map

I am surprised about that as I swear I have seen people do Denmark saves.

I always fancied do a Brondby/Denmark joint manager save so maybe I will do that next.

[Jimbokav1971]

I'm going to put this in my thread, but I need to say that this isn't my work, but looks impressive all the same. We've known for a while that the best info was no longer up to date, so this should be really beneficial to lots of us. 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qbn_c7ZQNprDh7K4qcQgEdPJ1uYuRH9icDRtNGVEkL8/edit#gid=0

[Jimbokav1971]

Dinamo Zagreb might be getting more popular as a save. That Orsic looks handy. 

[Maw74]

1 hour ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Dinamo Zagreb might be getting more popular as a save. That Orsic looks handy. 

[Rikulec]

I think they might have been one of the most, if not the most hated team for a large part of the FMCU community for years.

[Maw74]

I want to bring this club back 

Just trying to decide what version to do it on.

Could revive saves on FMC15 or FM18, maybe start fresh save on FM21?

 

[dsousa96]

Hello, I'm currently coaching Arsenal Pristine (Kosovo), it's a 4rd tired league club, amateur ofc, and they have a policy of only buying players with under 17 years old, is there any way to delete this policy? I don't see myself in the 1st tier of this country with this Policy tbh, I wan't to know if and when my club turns pro if this policy goes away. Thanks

Edited March 20, 2021 by dsousa96

[Maw74]

A crazy own goal.

Just got to 

[oriole01]

3 hours ago, dsousa96 said:

Hello, I'm currently coaching Arsenal Pristine (Kosovo), it's a 4rd tired league club, amateur ofc, and they have a policy of only buying players with under 17 years old, is there any way to delete this policy? I don't see myself in the 1st tier of this country with this Policy tbh, I wan't to know if and when my club turns pro if this policy goes away. Thanks

I took a look in the editor, they indeed have a maximum age of 17 set, which can be removed. But you would need to save an editor file with this change and start a new save for this to take effect.

[dsousa96]

1 minute ago, oriole01 said:

I took a look in the editor, they indeed have a maximum age of 17 set, which can be removed. But you would need to save an editor file with this change and start a new save for this to take effect.

Yeah, but I'm mid season in the 2nd divison of Kosovo, after 6 y in game because of that policy, maybe they delete that policy after turn to pro maybe?

[Maw74]

Does anyone no how to delete these 2 in editor?

So annoying, might have to start the editing again and create club from scratch rather than just editing MK Dons.

 

[DaneBramage]

8 hours ago, Maw74 said:

Does anyone no how to delete these 2 in editor?

This is where it's recorded in FM20. Hopefully it's the same in FM21.

[Maw74]

48 minutes ago, DaneBramage said:

This is where it's recorded in FM20. Hopefully it's the same in FM21.

Thanks.

 

Yep same place, I deleted them but when I set up game they are still there.

[Maw74]

On 22/03/2021 at 19:50, DaneBramage said:

This is where it's recorded in FM20. Hopefully it's the same in FM21.

No worries anyway, wanted to start with everything blank but editing them worked.

So that works fine, everything else is a fresh start, having those 2 records in game makes sense anyway.

Edited March 24, 2021 by Maw74

[-Jef-]

On 18/03/2021 at 21:12, Jimbokav1971 said:

Dinamo Zagreb might be getting more popular as a save. That Orsic looks handy. 

I have gladly and successfully buried them in the middle of the table with my Hajduk save

[Jimbokav1971]

It appears that there is a significant Dinamo Zagreb hatred which I was unaware of. 

[-Jef-]

22 hours ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

It appears that there is a significant Dinamo Zagreb hatred which I was unaware of. 

Am actually Dinamo fanboy since I was a little kid

[Jimbokav1971]

1 hour ago, -Jef- said:

Am actually Dinamo fanboy since I was a little kid

Careful. You will get lynched in here with that sort of allegiance. 

[rodesire]

On 19/03/2021 at 00:48, Rikulec said:

I think they might have been one of the most, if not the most hated team for a large part of the FMCU community for years.

what's the history there?

[Rikulec]

31 minutes ago, rodesire said:

what's the history there?

I think it started with the popularity of youth only saves in the San Marino league. Basically Dinamo were the team that everyone came up against in the European qualifiers at the later stages where they could actually hope for getting into the group stages. Usually they'd get knocked out, often quite dramatically. That's why everyone began to hate them.

[deltablue]

Yep, basically it was usually them or Copenhagen

[Fudal]

8.40 XG

[dafuge]

Loving that formation 

[Fudal]

And to cap off a wonderful save in Estonia...

I expected it to take way longer than 22 years, but I am very proud of these boys!

[anagain]

On 10/03/2021 at 07:48, Muttley84 said:

What have been people playing in March in UEFA leagues? Overall a better spread across Europe that the previous month, but the UK still dominates in numbers of threads. A fair deal of long-term careers ending in this period (might be related to the new update and people wanting a fresh start). You won't see my career on the map as I have yet to decide where to start...

That's a really cool idea. Dunno why I never click on this general thread. Wish I could keep up with more threads too.

Was curious what happened to @Stuniverseand his Faroes thread.

 

[Mandy42]

Anyone shed any light on why this guy is performing so well? He's playing in my U18s and has been stalked by clubs since he came into my academy. Wolves offered me £10M for him plus addons which only really made me more determined to keep him. I just don't understand why he is so prolific with finishing of 3 and long shots of 7. 

[deez0r]

13 hours ago, Mandy42 said:

Anyone shed any light on why this guy is performing so well? He's playing in my U18s and has been stalked by clubs since he came into my academy. Wolves offered me £10M for him plus addons which only really made me more determined to keep him. I just don't understand why he is so prolific with finishing of 3 and long shots of 7. 

I dont think finishing is as major a component any more compared to what it used to be. In saying that a stat of 3 should mean his finishing is Heskey-like. Decent enough stats for a winger though!

[withnail316]

Evening. How are we. FMCU?

FM's been tricky for me for a while, I was very much into a York save after buying the Xbox version, but life got in the way and I ran out of steam. I did decide to open the laptop up today though and I *think* I've managed to get into a new save. Fingers crossed I feel the same way in a few days, because if so I may yet be back with a thread...