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What's your best underdog tactic right now Knap ?

I play with Parma in Italian Serie B 

(If possible not a 3 striker formation, as i did all my transfers for a 4231 formation, that doesn't work really well unfortunately in the end)

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8 minutes ago, raf0u said:

What's your best underdog tactic right now Knap ?

I play with Parma in Italian Serie B 

(If possible not a 3 striker formation, as i did all my transfers for a 4231 formation, that doesn't work really well unfortunately in the end)

The best underdog tactic is FM18.2.2KnapARGUS343P102.fmf.

The best non 343 underdog tactic is I believe FM18.3FLAT442MIDSOMERP103.fmf.

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Asked for test to be expanded next year for top dog and under underdog.

Volante Anchor may be an under underdog contender or MIDSOMER on counter

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Hi Knapp, I play with Milan,I have many questions

1 - Which one is the best

FM18.3.3FLAT442MIDSOMERLpoolP97.fmf

FM18.3FLAT442MIDSOMERP103.fmf 

FM18.3FLAT442MIDSOMERP103IWPLPOOLP104.fmf

2 - Right winger must be right or left foot ? And left winger ? for the 3 tactics or only one or 2 ?

3 - Right or left foot is it important for F9 ?

4 -  Should we prefer fast an technical F9's, or physical and good finisher and good head

5 - I have Lautaro Martinez, Salah, Berardi, Harry Kane and Draxler 

Draxler - left winger

Salah - right winger

Lautaro and Kane F9 ?

Can it works like this ?

 

6 - Berardi is better winger or F9 
 

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Usually right foot on right side for forwards wingers MCs DCs. Sometimes a cut in PPM would apply but it is best to experiment with individual players.

Good players who are fast and technical.

The 180 game independent test shows MIDSOMER P103 to be best, but good results can also be obtained using counter mentality.

I let AM pick then experiment with players in different roles.

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I ted to avoid TM or AP type roles as they restrict a tactic. However you can still play all sorts of fwds with this tactic F9 is just a FM game label.

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On ‎24‎/‎05‎/‎2018 at 15:35, knap said:

FM 18.3.3

 

Tested with Lpool in FMT no OIs

FM18.3FLAT442MIDSOMERP103IWPLPOOLP104.fmf

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Accomplished the impossible with this tactic. Been using Touch exclusively using Instant result but decided to try something different so I started a new save in the full version with Sampdoria using this tactic. Switched back & forth from Attacking to Counter mentality during match play, depending on the situation.

Won the Scudetto in the first season. Unbelievable.

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hey @knap did you tried a defensive striker tactic or use that role on this? im playing in the third league and sometimes i change my strikers to df because they are not even close for f9 role and they are scoring.. like defensive cb, this role has his own charm i think.. 

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If I was any good with editing I would set up a test side that could play all roles with equal ability. It may be that you team and players suit that set up.

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On ‎31‎/‎05‎/‎2018 at 15:17, knap said:

Attacking should work better for a top team, although you can win PL and EC with MU on counter.

Mentality may be working like FM 17 when going defensive to look after ball better can crack tight defences.

Hey knap, in light of above statement...

Is it better to use Counter at Home, and Attacking Away when underdog (since Attacking mentality is behaving like Counter-attacking in this year's FM). What do you say?

For a team like Bilbao in La Liga.

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In general the AI will be more open for an under dog, so they should not be playing against a defensive AI. It may be worth trying if on a game by game basis if the AI appear defensive.

However, if an attacking  route one pump ball into box tactic works for a top dog with little possession then thoughts on FM 17 may longer apply.

In general In past FMs a top dog winning tactic had the majority of possession. This year the opposite appears to be the case, although I am looking at more possession based tactics.

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Overview of Tactic List from testing                                  TOTAL                       SUB TOP    UNDERDOG

ARGUS FM 18.2.2       P102                                                    P385                          P206        P179  

PILGRIMAGE FM 18.3.3 LPOOL P104                                  P380                            P226       P154

WOF FM 18.3.3  P101  Flexible                                              P381                           P213          P168

WOF FM 18.3.3 LPOOL P100 ALL CUPS                                P365                          P196          P169

PILGRIMAGE Fluid  LPOOL P101                                           P367                          P201           P166

PILGRIMAGE FM 18.2 P105                                                   P357                          P218           P139

ARGUS VOL 4 FM18.3.3  Structured  P101 ALL CUPS       P363                          P220           P143

BLUE MATTER    FM 18.3.3 P105                                         P356                           P207           P149

GOODBYE FM 18.3 VOL 7 Very Fluid                                  P349                           P208          P141

GOODBYE 3421                                                                     P324                          P205         P119

MIDSOMER 442 P103 (FLAT TEST)                                      P349                          P199         P150

MIDSOMER 442 VOL MEZ                                                    P342                          P196         P146 

MIDSOMER 343 VOL MEZ                                                    P337                          P195        P142

WOF 2323    FM 18   P104                                                    P335                          P187         P148

BLUE MATTER FM 18.3 VOL 4 P102     352                       P335                           P206         P129

ASH 343 19,3.3 LPOOLP99 Highly Structured                 P333                           P205       P128

ARGUS 3430                                                                          P331                          P192         P139

VOLANTE BWM FM 18.3 P101                                           P326                            P191         P135

MM  442 VOLANTE P103                                                    P323                            P187        P136

WOF 3412                                                                            P325                             P198         P127

WOF 2233 P102HS         FM 18.2                                      P311                             P194         P117

BLUE MATTER VOL 4 P100 4123 FM 18.2.1                  P310                             P179         -P131

MMVOLANTEANCHOR            442                                   P302                            P165           P127

ARGUS 352 18.2,2 P101                                                   P306                            P169            P137

BLUE MATTER 433 18.3                                                    P295                             P158           P137

BLUE MATTER VOL 4 4213 VOLANTE 18.3                     P289                            P184            P105

PILGRIMAGE 3511 18.2.2 P102                                       P297                            P181            P116

PILGRIMAGE 451 MUP101 18.3.3                                    P293                           P169          P124

MIDSOMER WIDE DIAMOND   18.3                                P287                            P175            P112

RAMBLE ON ASYMMETRIC18,3 P100                             P287                           P169            P118     

RAW SIENNA 4231 18,2,2                                                 P272                           P147             P125   

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Hey knap,

first of all thank you very much for your excellent tactics! I have one small question about your midsommer 103 p tactic. I noticed, that your left wm has the option "runs with ball often", while your left wm is missing this. Would it change the outcome of the tactic if I try to make it symmetrical?

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I often find small differences in PIs help a tactic perform, and there is no reason to be totally symmetrical. It has been like this since first created back in FM 16.

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vor 1 Minute schrieb knap:

I often find small differences in PIs help a tactic perform, and there is no reason to be totally symmetrical. It has been like this since first created back in FM 16.

Okay, thanks for your quick reply. I think you are correct, but my inner Monk sometimes make my don't wanna use a tactic, if it is not perfectly symmetrical :D Well, I am playing in german 4th division, media prediction was 16 (out of 18) and I started to use the tactic in the second half of the season. First half of the season (using another tactic) wasn't very good, but if I get good results, I will definitely post it here. :)

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Le 17/07/2018 à 21:59, TheFanatikz a dit :

Been using the FM18.3FLAT442MIDSOMERP103 with Barcelona and its working wonders so far.

Considering i have an ageing squad and zero transfer budget smashing Madrid was quite a surprise.

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I confirm. Real Madrid really does not like the 442 FLAT Midsomer. Unbelievable performance. With your tactics I feel that my team seems invincible. I would do screens of my end-of-season results.

 

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If you want to counter a 442 it means protecting wings, especially on the AI attacking side which can be seen from AI formation. Therefore 451 or 442 4141 formations even 424.

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vor 2 Stunden schrieb knap:

If you want to counter a 442 it means protecting wings, especially on the AI attacking side which can be seen from AI formation. Therefore 451 or 442 4141 formations even 424.

my friends are playing in the same league with 442, so there is no AI :D

i will try 442 P103 or VOL MEZ version in Counter mentality

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first season using this one after 3 years with WOF...

Won everything, 7 trophy  and I destroyed Arsenal in the champions league final !!!! (Put my WB on Support and use Counter ; Every Game)

God Bless U Knap ;)

 

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On 03/09/2018 at 20:11, Intensa said:

first season using this one after 3 years with WOF...

Won everything, 7 trophy  and I destroyed Arsenal in the champions league final !!!! (Put my WB on Support and use Counter ; Every Game)

God Bless U Knap ;)

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Good to see someone else using Knap's tactics on the full game. What match prep and scheduling notch do you set?

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