rrepek Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Midsomer works amazing, I use it for Betis and in first season of CL I got to final which I lost against Tottenham. My striker did not shot 2 penalties in first half.😬 Sometimes against hard away matches I lost different 3 or 4 goals. Do you have any advice to protect such results? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 Drop mentality and stop FB runs. If you want to try and change game try WOF 2323 or the 415 tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandonDonovan10 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 @knap as a huge fan of 4-4-2, this works very well for me but i have a question, i'm managing la galaxy, playing zlatan and gio dos santos at up top, can i change zlatan's role to target man? or you have target man 4-4-2? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 7, 2018 Author Share Posted May 7, 2018 For me TMs do not work, MIDSOMER P103 is the top 442 but The Crunge and GOODBYE 442 vary the front 2. However I do not bother about fitting players to roles and you will be lucky to find any green circles in the test squads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bianconero Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 I cant seem to find a link to MIDSOMER P103 ? Can you help ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Scout Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Bianconero said: I cant seem to find a link to MIDSOMER P103 ? Can you help ? First post, second from the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko1878 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 What do you look for in players for the 103pt tactic? Do you look for what the roles are or prefer specific attributes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 10, 2018 Author Share Posted May 10, 2018 I only look for best players I can find for positions. GK FB/WB with pace CB MR/ML with pace MC AM MC DM AMR/L with pace (not specifically needed for 442 but can play MR/L or ST) ST with pace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko1878 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 8 hours ago, knap said: I only look for best players I can find for positions. GK FB/WB with pace CB MR/ML with pace MC AM MC DM AMR/L with pace (not specifically needed for 442 but can play MR/L or ST) ST with pace Happy days, so basically you value pace over most things. For the MC positions, you have the BWM is the defensive minded player and the CM is the attack minded? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 10, 2018 Author Share Posted May 10, 2018 Pace always helps. Can be a bbm for attack and an AMC will work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandonDonovan10 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Hi @knap can I share this tactic on Turkish FM website? I will mention your name Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 12, 2018 Author Share Posted May 12, 2018 Should be in tactic name anyway. Hope they enjoy a traditional 442. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3TAH Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Thought I'd finally sign up to the site so I can feedback on my experience... currently 12 seasons in to a file having won the league in every major league (Spain, Italy, France, Germany and England... (eventually). I would like to give you feedback: I found that different leagues have generally different formations, the hardest for me by far was England as the AI 4-2-3-1 makes playing a 4-4-2 much more challenging. I absolutely walked Italy, the 4-4-2 is so powerful there, similarly when I got the Madrid job, I broke every record there was to break. I used your 4-4-2 volante pretty constantly, but my spell in Germany was the first time I really struggled to dominate. I ended up setting for the 4-4-2 Midsomer at home, which has proved constantly unbeatable. From version 18.2.2 to the newest, I think I have gone almost 4 seasons with only wins at home across several clubs (before England). This it still the tactic I use, now the MM 18.3.3. Away, I was always okay, but it required me to move to England to really start concerning myself with this. Eventually I settled on your newest 4-4-2 MM Volante away. and this has worked wonders. I do however find if I play against anyone with advanced inside forwards, I instantly drop my wing backs to defend and that is enough to see out a game. The only thing left for me to win now is international cups, I have won domestic cups every season since I started, but have never found glory in europe, no matter what formations I use. Thank you for all of the tactics, allowing me to experiment! I hope this feedback provides useful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Using the LPool Midsomer 442 for Home matches and Volante for Away. That’s been a good strategy for me in my Barcelona save with Instant Result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christrott79 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 The game is broken Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 15, 2018 Author Share Posted May 15, 2018 In what way? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christrott79 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 In that the game is completely random from one save to the next. Had a base start save with Spurs since 18.3.3 has come out to test tactics with, always using default squad with only signing being several youth back up players. Had best 1st season with Spurs with this tactic compared to any other tactics, 94 points, champions league final (lost to Barca but only had 9 men for a large part of it) and the team were playing like Brazilian gods. Took your advice that pace was key so signed Alaba & Sergi Roberto to replace Rose & Aurier and Dybala to replace Sonny up top in second season and the team is nigh on unbeatable Thought right, here we go, time for a long term save, started new game with Spurs, again using default squad for 1st season and now they can’t string a pass together! Results are so hit and miss it’s completely frustrating! it almost explains the varying results on the Mr L Testing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandonDonovan10 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Knap you are the best! 3 trophies in 1 season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 15, 2018 Author Share Posted May 15, 2018 I was messing about today and you can still win without playing any CBs. You an change the not stringing a pass together to one variable. Change that and they are back to superstars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryTortuga Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 15 hours ago, knap said: I was messing about today and you can still win without playing any CBs. You an change the not stringing a pass together to one variable. Change that and they are back to superstars. What do you mean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 16, 2018 Author Share Posted May 16, 2018 Which one? You can win without a back 4, or changing a variable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryTortuga Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 No CBs - do you play with 2 HB's and Wing Backs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 16, 2018 Author Share Posted May 16, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmste Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 43 minutes ago, knap said: results for this tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christrott79 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 19 hours ago, knap said: I was messing about today and you can still win without playing any CBs. You an change the not stringing a pass together to one variable. Change that and they are back to superstars. Any suggestions on potential variables!?!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 16, 2018 Author Share Posted May 16, 2018 It is just a one off tactic. Depends if anything different pre season or in the 1st few games of season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick Lamak Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Is there a counter-attacking mentality of the 442 tactics provided here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 The original FM16 FM18 Tactic is on counter. Counter is just a risk setting and this year more risk tends to work better and counter should be re named lower risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimartino Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Having a lot of fun with this one ( FM18.3FLAT442MIDSOMERP103.fmf ). Just two hints: 1-Change mentality to counter 2-Plug and play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmste Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, dimartino said: Having a lot of fun with this one ( FM18.3FLAT442MIDSOMERP103.fmf ). Just two hints: 1-Change mentality to counter 2-Plug and play training? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimartino Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 40 minutes ago, fmste said: training? I'm playing FMT, so no match training. General Training set to team cohesion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryTortuga Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Thanks for all the tactics, Knap! I think you win Football Manager 2018. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 24, 2018 Author Share Posted May 24, 2018 FM 18.3.3 Tested with Lpool in FMT no OIs FM18.3FLAT442MIDSOMERP103IWPLPOOLP104.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christrott79 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Giving this a whirl with Spurs, better than the WM 103 version you think? I'm guessing it doesn't matter what foot the IW's are as you have Mane on the right? Still looking for for pace up front and on wings? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 25, 2018 Author Share Posted May 25, 2018 Always look for pace. At this level they tend to have PPMs as well and often cut in from both wings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
omrgul Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 13 hours ago, knap said: FM 18.3.3 Tested with Lpool in FMT no OIs FM18.3FLAT442MIDSOMERP103IWPLPOOLP104.fmf Hey knap, so the major difference is only the Inverted Wingers instead of WMs? Also, please suggest. Where should I play Messi? Right IW or as False 9? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 25, 2018 Author Share Posted May 25, 2018 Midfield has a few tweaks. Depends who else can play wings, but I would try to use Messi as a FWD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 25, 2018 Author Share Posted May 25, 2018 I've also noticed that MIDSOMER works well on Counter mentality. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wong Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 is it essential that everyone is on tackle harder? getting crazy amount of yellow and red cards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Scout Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 hour ago, wong said: is it essential that everyone is on tackle harder? getting crazy amount of yellow and red cards If a player gets a yellow card, tick "ease off tackles" on his PI. If the player is BWM (they have fixed "tackle harder" PI), change him to CM and tick every PI as BMW has + ease off tackle. If a player gets a red card, issue a warning after the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandonDonovan10 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 On 25.05.2018 at 12:32, knap said: I've also noticed that MIDSOMER works well on Counter mentality. which one? the last? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 Not the IW version as no feedback so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertoNUFC Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Which tactic exactly is the one which got such good results (top tactic with back 4) in Mr L test and is renamed 442 flat on there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 29, 2018 Author Share Posted May 29, 2018 it is P103 - There is a detailed analysis on the site as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
omrgul Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Hey knap, was the original midsomer tactic 103pts was tested with Counter mentality as well? Is that why the posts were at Mr. L's forum that there is a difference of a 100 points between the 2 versions? Also, with this one (Counter mentality original with WMs), which tactic do you recommend to supplement? I am playing Barcelona currently. I feel there should be another tactic (apart from SUS), which should be deployed for Champions League AWAY games, or the Cup finals. Please suggest. I was thinking of using 442 Volante Anchor. But that one has Attacking mentality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 With MU I have played CL Finals using BLACK NIGHT 451 and RAW SIENNA 4231 and 424 and won them all. I have not found counter mentality to work that well this year as P&P. When moving away from P&P then a more adaptive approach can be used by game managing. I have often used a full SUS for hard away games. There is no need to use a full SUS but maybe just limit FB runs. Perhaps the ideal away set up is Highly Structured counter tactic. Volante Anchor is a White Europe tweak and I've not had good test results, so using Anchor or Counter mentality is a more an approach in practice than testing. 3 at back is now a goto defensive formation and there is a flat back 5 MIDSOMER tactic, the other defensive formations that should work are 4141 or 451/41221 Maybe a 451 Highly Structured counter tactic would be best for hard away games. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaAlbin_88 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 The FM18.3FLAT442MIDSOMERP103 tactic works incredible with counter mentality knap 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 What teams are you using? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaAlbin_88 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, knap said: What teams are you using? Im using nott forest, im in year 2020 so i have a good team! Im gonna test it out with an underdog team to see if it is as good then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 Attacking should work better for a top team, although you can win PL and EC with MU on counter. Mentality may be working like FM 17 when going defensive to look after ball better can crack tight defences. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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