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You can try with an underdog team. PILGRIMAGE is top sub top so may be worth trying both together as Home and Away tactics

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11 minutes ago, knap said:

You can try with an underdog team. PILGRIMAGE is top sub top so may be worth trying both together as Home and Away tactics

Thanks, I shall try this combination. I used PILGRIMAGE with Bayern; would have become "The Invincible", if my players weren't so complacent and uninterested in the last game. Also won the german cup, but got knocked out in semi finials of CL by Spurs.

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hello knap i need some help friend....you say that  PILGRIMAGE is a sub top tactic ok???and that we can use WOF together as home and away....i believe that you mean  PILGRIMAGE home and WOF away???

and second question which  PILGRIMAGE version.....

 

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Overview of Tactic List from testing                                  TOTAL                       SUB TOP    UNDERDOG

WOF FM 18.3.3  P101  Flexible                                              P381                           P213          P168

WOF FM 18.3.3 LPOOL P100 ALL CUPS                                P365                          P196          P169

PILGRIMAGE Fluid  LPOOL P101                                           P367                          P201           P166

PILGRIMAGE FM 18.2 P105                                                   P357                          P218           P139

ARGUS VOL 4 FM18.3.3  Structured  P101 ALL CUPS       P363                          P220           P143

BLUE MATTER    FM 18.3.3 P105                                         P356                           P207           P149

GOODBYE FM 18.3 VOL 6 P103 Very Fluid                        P349                           P204          P145

GOODBYE 3421                                                                     P324                          P205         P119

MIDSOMER 442 P103 (FLAT TEST)                                      P349                          P199         P150

WOF 2323    FM 18   P104                                                    P335                          P187         P148

BLUE MATTER FM 18.3 VOL 4 P102     352                       P335                           P206         P129

ASH FM 18.3 P104                Highly Structured                P326                            P190         P136

VOLANTE BWM FM 18.3 P101                                           P326                            P191         P135

WOF 3412                                                                            P325                             P198         P127

WOF 2233 P102HS         FM 18.2                                      P311                             P194         P117

BLUE MATTER VOL 4 P100 4123 FM 18.2.1                  P310                             P179         -P131

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how do you calculate that scoring ?

 

Didn't you always use Arsenal, Tottenham and Lpool ?

 

Also if you could make one of those lists for all your tactics also maybe for top teams it'd be cool.

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It is an independent test over 180 games with 2 teams, sub top CA 145 underdog CA 120.

My test is only 38 games so using 180 increases the accuracy.

For top teams I would look at my results and sub top.

At the moment 300 tactics have been tested from around the world.

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alright, no stats on 433 BLUE MATTER ? been using that as my main favorite tactic with Juventus and it's pretty solid - score an insane amount and usually win heavily.

 

But I'm trying to find some tactics for away games in the CL - I'll probably be using the WOF, ARGUS and PILGRIMAGE in some sort of mix.

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Hopefully next year there will be a top and under underdog test. Too late for this year as they have a tactics queue of probably 180 tactics to be tested.

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Hey knap, if I want to convert your current top tactics WoF, and Pilgrimage to a 3421 formation (i.e. with 2 AMs behind lone striker), which roles and PIs would you suggest for the attacking midfielders. Please suggest.

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@knap ¬FM18.3.3KnapWOF343P101.fmf what individual training is recommended to players for this sequence

 

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GK = ?
DCL / DCR = ? 
DC = ?
WB's = ?
MCR = ?
MCL = ?
STC = ?
STR / STL = ?


Like this

Individual Training Focus:
STCL/STC/STCR : Individual Training Focus = "Trequartista"
MCL/MCR : Individual Training Focus = "Deep Lying Playmaker";
CDL/CD/CDR : Individual Training Focus = "Ball Playing Defender" Training Focus 
WBL/WBR : Individual Training Focus = "Complete Wing Back";
GK : Individual Training Focus = "Goalkeeper"

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This is a set up that I am looking at

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I don't use individual training in any test game, but I end to train tactic roles.

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FM 18.3.3 WOF Knap 343 P101 - this tactic deserves more comments here. Perhaps there might be better tactics for underdogs, however I do like playing big clubs and focus on youth development / intake. I was hardly trying out ARGUS and PILGRIMAGE which was not working as intended with Real Madrid (recently I got beaten 0-6 by Arsenal using ARGUS) - I am tactical dumb maybe that's the reason. However - WOF is working like a GEM. I always start with WOF now, and depends on the circumstances I stick to it or move to PILGRIMAGE or ARGUS in the later stage of the game.

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ASH is Highly Structured

ARGUS is structured

WOF is Flexible

PILGRIMAGE is Fluid

GOODBYE is Very Fluid

It was a test to see if any advantage from each Shape.

WOF is very well balanced - ARGUS is more under dog and PILGRIMAGE more sub top.

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Just want to share my results with " FM18.3.0KnapWOF343P104 " ; Used during 3 seasons and finally win CL last year

For me, by far (for the moment), the Best you've done this year !!! :applause:

Now, I will try "FM18.3FLAT442MIDSOMERP103", I had to sell some players because a new stadium is under construction

 

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My center striker, last season, sold to Chelsea at the end

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Is it against a particular formation 442? Is this with Lpool?

I played the EC Final against RM last night with Lpool and did not notice an issue. I was using a White Europe tweak of ASH in a 3412 Formation.

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il y a 9 minutes, neomansysPT a dit :

Did you use the same tactic for every game, or do you switch home/away, underdog/top team, etc?

At the beginning when I decided to use this tactic, I thought to use FM18.2.2KnapARGUS343P102 at Home and WOF Away
But the level of play of my team was really better with WOF so, I kept this tactic all the times

For me, WOF is by far the most underrated tactic from Knap but the results are absolutely fabulous

(Start my new season with Midsomer 442... Aboslutely destroyed Liverpool In European Super Cup 6-2... )

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Hey dudes,

Wanted to share my experience with this tactic.

Followed @Intensa advice and used 18.3.0 WOF 343 P104 tactic (we've been always 2nd, always losing big matches), and these are the results:

- League:

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Unbeaten until winning the league (before Tondela's match), then asked AM to do the remaining games, where he lost 2 of them. Alas, we broke the point record (difference was 23 points to 2nd place until AM came into play)

- Cup:

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Unbeaten

- League Cup:

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Unbeaten

- Champions League:

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This is the only thing off this season. Apaling. Was only able to win one against Juventus, all others I was destroyed, or able to draw at the last second.


Apart from that last one, great work @knap !

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Hey dudes,

Sorry to post again, but I finished the next season, and just had to share this magical season:

- Super Cup:

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Won the Super Cup against the League's 2nd place

- League:

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Lost 3 games during the season, but we were champions with a dif of 13 points to the 2nd place

- Cup:

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Unbeaten

- League Cup:

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Unbeaten

- Champions League:

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We won the frickin' Champions League!

 

We basically won EVERYTHING we participated on!

And the next season already looks promising:

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Thank you Knap, you are a godsend!

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On 01/09/2018 at 18:05, neomansysPT said:

Hey dudes,

Sorry to post again, but I finished the next season, and just had to share this magical season:

- Super Cup:

image.thumb.png.af88bb0d24a3a3099890ed3cd96f3fa6.png

Won the Super Cup against the League's 2nd place

- League:

image.thumb.png.46e3445ac906232f16697cf4a00d1630.png

image.thumb.png.aa5a8752e1bc5cf13c618148aec9c817.png

Lost 3 games during the season, but we were champions with a dif of 13 points to the 2nd place

- Cup:

image.thumb.png.2e88576a133da471b6048144fc989821.png

Unbeaten

- League Cup:

image.thumb.png.1027ed8718c3b1e56c7f4315e39a10a9.png

Unbeaten

- Champions League:

image.thumb.png.625ae2ea7cb5201041fc6b559cf42ba1.png

We won the frickin' Champions League!

 

We basically won EVERYTHING we participated on!

And the next season already looks promising:

image.thumb.png.16ab27d691e693aeed9bb8f29b54f1f9.png

Thank you Knap, you are a godsend!

This tactic works in 18.3.4?? 

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