Taz & The Devil Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Well as promised i did another video, its not brilliant but then its not meant to be. Enjoy. My new video, its called FeS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanester Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Blaine: Thinking about doing a Christmas fact or fiction (I think we are still awaiting the results of Nick's )... any interest? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Christmas you say? Might be fun. Question one: Santa Claus brings you presents. Fact ot Fiction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick OGS20 Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by vanester: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Blaine: Thinking about doing a Christmas fact or fiction (I think we are still awaiting the results of Nick's )... any interest? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Christmas you say? Might be fun. Question one: Santa Claus brings you presents. Fact ot Fiction? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> It's fact and don't anyone dare suggest otherwise Question Two: Malcolm Glazer is a c*nt of the highest order - Fact or Fiction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatter Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Agreed Nick. Am i being overly cynical to suggest that Giggs best form in aaaaages has coincided with this whole contract situation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanester Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nick OGS20: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by vanester: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Blaine: Thinking about doing a Christmas fact or fiction (I think we are still awaiting the results of Nick's )... any interest? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Christmas you say? Might be fun. Question one: Santa Claus brings you presents. Fact ot Fiction? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> It's fact and don't anyone dare suggest otherwise <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I thought so too but today guys in my class said Santa doesn't exist Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick OGS20 Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 LIES It's a Glazer-led conspiracy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mika Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Taz & The Devil: Well as promised i did another video, its not brilliant but then its not meant to be. Enjoy. http://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=E4F4AE14A9F24B209A96426BCC8E7B53 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> 1hr 29mins to go *curses dial-up* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz & The Devil Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mika: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Taz & The Devil: Well as promised i did another video, its not brilliant but then its not meant to be. Enjoy. http://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=E4F4AE14A9F24B209A96426BCC8E7B53 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> 1hr 29mins to go *curses dial-up* <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> If you're on dial up i wouldnt bother. Its not worth it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mika Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Taz & The Devil: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mika: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Taz & The Devil: Well as promised i did another video, its not brilliant but then its not meant to be. Enjoy. http://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=E4F4AE14A9F24B209A96426BCC8E7B53 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> 1hr 29mins to go *curses dial-up* <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> If you're on dial up i wouldnt bother. Its not worth it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Nothing better to do tbh What channel was Peter Drury doing the commentary for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drainedvitality Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by vanester: Download it at school and burn it on cd, that's the way to go <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> *reported Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mika Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 One thing I was just looking for, has anyone here got a copy of this seasons squad photo online? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James07? Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 I was going to do my half term reports tonight, but frankly Mr dead liverpool manager I can't be arsed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 So, I wonder who it was that voted Ryan Giggs as world footballer of the year? (He got one first place vote and one third place vote) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACou2000 Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mika: One thing I was just looking for, has anyone here got a copy of this seasons squad photo online? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> This was the bst I could find from manutd.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz & The Devil Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 How rough does Van look in that team photo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Scholes\' Regen Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 I have a poster of the squad photo, it would seem Scholes wasn't there as his head looks like it was photoshopped onto it Even looks fake on that lower detail pic. I am writing to United to express my moderate annoyance at it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lathund Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Someone posted the following on a Rovers messageboard. From USsoccer.com but he couldn't find the article again, maybe it's been removed? Think it's true? And surely he wouldn't be able to make his debut before the transfer window opens? "Now that he’s been loaned from Manchester United to fellow English Premier League club Blackburn, it will be interesting to see if 18-year-old U.S. defender Jonathan Spector will get a start when Rovers host Newcastle United on Sunday (Dec. 26), England’s historic Boxing Day." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 News to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James07? Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Bit of a question to you all, topical after Le Roi’s peerless display on MUTV yesterday. There seems to be a bit of a debate going on in the letters pages of the fanzines about our continued veneration of Eric. Some people are arguing that it's disrespectful to the current players. That it's wishing for a time that's long gone and we should use our energy getting behind those wearing the shirt now It's always worse at this time of the year with the 12 Cantona's song (or 12 Mr Mystery’s on Saturday ) but I kinda see the point. None of the summer signings have a decent song devoted to them yet - well, not one that's caught on at least. Maybe if Pete Boyle got off his fat arse and did the job he's meant to do the situation would improve I guess also, Eric's simply a very special case - how many other players, 8 years after their departure get sung about at any club? Ole's the only other person who is always sung about when he's not playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James07? Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 BTW, this singing stuff is all theoretic obv. United fans are too busy with their prawn sarnies to do such a thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Senegal Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by James07?: I guess also, Eric's simply a very special case - how many other players, 8 years after their departure get sung about at any club? . <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Deification, or lack of imagination Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz & The Devil Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Eric is the King, he deserves a song sung about him. I dont think singing about him means we dont get behind the team any less. Although i agree the powers that be should come up with some cool sings for our new players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz & The Devil Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Cool sings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz & The Devil Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 You know what? I'm sick of hearing about Rooneys great finishing, the guys worst attribute is his finishing. The guy couldnt score in a room full of women under the influence of rohypnol and all the commentators go on about is his great finishing. **** off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James07? Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 I'll ask Mum to stop wearing PVC at matches. It's putting young Wayne off. /0\ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz & The Devil Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 2D TV reported young Wayne was shágging the same prostitute as his great uncle Stanley Rooney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T!mbo Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Ah the good old reverse Norfolk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaine Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Fact or fiction: To begin, a free for all that isn't strictly fact or fiction but follows the same principle of predicting the near immediate future... 1) Who will we sign? If no-one, put no-one. If someone, please put: Player/Permanent or Loan (If permanent, then immediate or Pre-contract) eg. Mark Schwarzer/Permanent (Pre-contract) 2) Who will we sell? If no-one, put no-one. If someone, please put: Player/to which club/Permanent or Loan (If permanent, then immediate or Pre-contract) eg. Kleberson/Werder Bremen/Loan Now on to the proper stuff... 3) Glazer will mount a full takeover bid (nb. he has not done this to date; preliminary talks and speculation will not count as fact.) 4) We will win against: a) Bolton b) Villa c) Boro d) Spurs e) Exeter (FA Cup) (nb. I am not including replays.) f) Chelsea (Carling Cup Semi Final Away Leg) g) Liverpool h) Aston Villa i) Chelsea (Carling Cup Semi Final Home Leg) 5) Ruud will be back by the Liverpool game (15/01/05). 6) We will be less than 9 points behind Chelsea at the end of January. 7) Giggs will have signed a new contract by the end of January. 8) Roy Carroll will have signed a new contract by the end of January. 9) Should we get there, we will draw a Premiership team in the fourth round of the FA Cup. 10) Should we get there, we will have a home tie in the fourth round of the FA Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaine Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 BTW Got this message... <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> i wonder if you are now more inclined to use my strategy VS ROMAN + GLAZER or are you all still as smart as you were it is kind of rubbing it in but i told you so but you right you are way to smart for me have agood you know what <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> ...from you know who Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albot Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Long live Rand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James M Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 rand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T!mbo Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Fact or fiction: 1) Who will we sign? If no-one, put no-one. If someone, please put: Player/Permanent or Loan (If permanent, then immediate or Pre-contract) eg. Mark Schwarzer/Permanent (Pre-contract) No-one Actually Eric Cantona/Permanent/Press Secretary and Public Relations manager 2) Who will we sell? If no-one, put no-one. If someone, please put: Player/to which club/Permanent or Loan (If permanent, then immediate or Pre-contract) eg. Kleberson/Werder Bremen/Loan Spector/QPR/Loan Now on to the proper stuff... 3) Glazer will mount a full takeover bid (nb. he has not done this to date; preliminary talks and speculation will not count as fact.) Fiction - Various factions will do enough to conspire against him, the ginger ****. 4) We will win against: a) Bolton FACT b) Villa Fact c) Boro Fiction d) Spurs Fiction e) Exeter (FA Cup) Fact (nb. I am not including replays.) f) Chelsea (Carling Cup Semi Final Away Leg) Fiction g) Liverpool Fact h) Aston Villa Fact i) Chelsea (Carling Cup Semi Final Home Leg) Fiction 5) Ruud will be back by the Liverpool game (15/01/05). Fiction 6) We will be less than 9 points behind Chelsea at the end of January. Fiction 7) Giggs will have signed a new contract by the end of January. Fiction 8) Roy Carroll will have signed a new contract by the end of January. Fact 9) Should we get there, we will draw a Premiership team in the fourth round of the FA Cup. Fiction 10) Should we get there, we will have a home tie in the fourth round of the FA Cup. Fact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericcantona7 Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Blaine: _Fact or fiction:_ To begin, a free for all that isn't strictly fact or fiction but follows the same principle of predicting the near immediate future... 1) Who will we sign? If no-one, put no-one. If someone, please put: Player/Permanent or Loan (If permanent, then immediate or Pre-contract) no-one 2) Who will we sell? If no-one, put no-one. If someone, please put: Player/_to which club_/Permanent or Loan (If permanent, then immediate or Pre-contract) Spector/Bolton/loan Now on to the proper stuff... 3) Glazer will mount a full takeover bid _(nb. he has not done this to date; preliminary talks and speculation will not count as fact.)_ FICTION 4) We will win against: a) Bolton FACT b) Villa FACT c) Boro FACT d) Spurs FACT e) Exeter (FA Cup) FACT _(nb. I am not including replays.)_ f) Chelsea (Carling Cup Semi Final _Away Leg_)FACT g) Liverpool FACT h) Aston Villa FACT i) Chelsea (Carling Cup Semi Final _Home Leg_) FACT 5) Ruud will be back by the Liverpool game (15/01/05). FACT 6) We will be less than 9 points behind Chelsea at the end of January. FACT 7) Giggs will have signed a new contract by the end of January. FACT 8) Roy Carroll will have signed a new contract by the end of January. FACT 9) Should we get there, we will draw a Premiership team in the fourth round of the FA Cup. FACT 10) Should we get there, we will have a home tie in the fourth round of the FA Cup. erm FACT <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericcantona7 Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 that last one is just a 50/50 guess ffs, anyway anyone got a spare ticket for Bolton? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz & The Devil Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Blaine: _Fact or fiction:_ To begin, a free for all that isn't strictly fact or fiction but follows the same principle of predicting the near immediate future... 1) Who will we sign? If no-one, put no-one. If someone, please put: Player/Permanent or Loan (If permanent, then immediate or Pre-contract) _eg. Mark Schwarzer/Permanent (Pre-contract)_ Nobody 2) Who will we sell? If no-one, put no-one. If someone, please put: Player/_to which club_/Permanent or Loan (If permanent, then immediate or Pre-contract) _eg. Kleberson/Werder Bremen/Loan_ Spector/Blackburn/Loan Now on to the proper stuff... 3) Glazer will mount a full takeover bid _(nb. he has not done this to date; preliminary talks and speculation will not count as fact.)_ Fiction. He will pitch an offer like before and he will be told to get to ****. 4) We will win against: a) Bolton fact b) Villa fact c) Boro fact d) Spurs fact e) Exeter (FA Cup) fact _(nb. I am not including replays.)_ f) Chelsea (Carling Cup Semi Final _Away Leg_) fiction g) Liverpool fact h) Aston Villa fact i) Chelsea (Carling Cup Semi Final _Home Leg_) fiction 5) Ruud will be back by the Liverpool game (15/01/05). fiction 6) We will be less than 9 points behind Chelsea at the end of January. fact 7) Giggs will have signed a new contract by the end of January. fiction 8) Roy Carroll will have signed a new contract by the end of January. fiction 9) Should we get there, we will draw a Premiership team in the fourth round of the FA Cup. fact 10) Should we get there, we will have a home tie in the fourth round of the FA Cup. fiction <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick OGS20 Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by James07?: Bit of a question to you all, topical after Le Roi’s peerless display on MUTV yesterday. There seems to be a bit of a debate going on in the letters pages of the fanzines about our continued veneration of Eric. Some people are arguing that it's disrespectful to the current players. That it's wishing for a time that's long gone and we should use our energy getting behind those wearing the shirt _now_ It's always worse at this time of the year with the 12 Cantona's song (or 12 Mr Mystery’s on Saturday ) but I kinda see the point. None of the summer signings have a decent song devoted to them yet - well, not one that's caught on at least. Maybe if Pete Boyle got off his fat arse and did the job he's meant to do the situation would improve I guess also, Eric's simply a very special case - how many other players, 8 years after their departure get sung about at any club? Ole's the only other person who is always sung about when he's not playing. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I don't have any problem with constant singing about Eric. It's infinitely preferable to the increasingly prevalent anti-Scouse/Citeh/Leeds/Arsenal() crap that's fine in extreme moderation but has been ridiculously OTT this season. Hell, I'd prefer us to wax lyrical in song about the legend that was Ralphie Milne than to hear 'If you all hate Scousers...' trawled out yet again. One of the fanzine columnists (possibly Fubar in UWS?) pointed out that although Rooney and Smudger have been almost unanimously accepted as Reds and indeed become pretty popular, we're still singing 'If you all hate Scousers/We all hate Leeds scúm', when a far better option would be to come up with some witty chants based on the fact that they may not be born and bred Reds but they now play for us. Shows support for the player whilst still having that wind-up factor and displaying the right level of animosity towards rivals. One things for sure, there's been nowhere near enough support for the lads on the pitch and far too much time devoted to Liverpool/Citeh (and some incredibly cringeworthy songs about Arsenal ffs). I guess you could say singing about Le Roi is the easier option than breaking new ground with new songs about new players and our club, which is a shame as it's always been something our support has been excellent at. Those of you who've been to aways this season, what's the atmopshere been like on them, compared to previous seasons? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericcantona7 Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 12 Cantonas adds atmosphere to even the dullest games though. it can really lift the crown in a way that no other song can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick OGS20 Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Fact or Fiction 1) Who will we sign? Stuart Downing (Permanent, Immediate) Steven Gerrard (Permanent, Immediate) Or alternatively, no-one 2) Who will we sell? Spector - Coventry (Loan) O'Shea - Newcastle (Permanent, Immediate) Now on to the proper stuff... 3) Glazer will mount a full takeover bid Fiction - I've every faith the combined efforts of IMUSA/SU/MEC/RAG and everyone else will force anyone even considering backing his bid (and boy does he need backing) to think again, and I've a reasonable degree of faith in Gill continuing to do the right thing 4) We will win against: a) Bolton - Fact b) Villa - Fact c) Boro - Fiction d) Spurs - Fact e) Exeter (FA Cup) - Fact f) Chelsea (Carling Cup Semi Final Away Leg) - Fiction g) Liverpool - Fact h) Aston Villa - Fact i) Chelsea (Carling Cup Semi Final _Home Leg_) - Fact 5) Ruud will be back by the Liverpool game (15/01/05). Fact - hopefully 6) We will be less than 9 points behind Chelsea at the end of January. Fact 7) Giggs will have signed a new contract by the end of January. Fact 8) Roy Carroll will have signed a new contract by the end of January. Fiction - bye bye Roy 9) Should we get there, we will draw a Premiership team in the fourth round of the FA Cup. Fiction 10) Should we get there, we will have a home tie in the fourth round of the FA Cup. Fact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drainedvitality Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 I cant see you signing Gerrard tbh. If/when he becomes available I'd say either Chelsea or Real will be able to snap him before you do. Not only can those clubs out bid you but they could offer a higher percentage of the transfer fee up front rather than over so many months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz & The Devil Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by drainedvitality: I cant see you signing Gerrard tbh. If/when he becomes available I'd say either Chelsea or Real will be able to snap him before you do. Not only can those clubs out bid you but they could offer a higher percentage of the transfer fee up front rather than over so many months. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> How do you work that out? We are the richest club in football and always offer most of a transfer fee up front and generally offer massive wages. Just because Gill says there is no money to spend without selling players first does not mean we cant afford but we are looking at the bigger picture and keeping within the business plan that has made us the richest club in the world. That said sadly i dont see us signing him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick OGS20 Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by drainedvitality: I cant see you signing Gerrard tbh. If/when he becomes available I'd say either Chelsea or Real will be able to snap him before you do. Not only can those clubs out bid you but they could offer a higher percentage of the transfer fee up front rather than over so many months. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I wasn't being entirely serious tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drainedvitality Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Taz & The Devil: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by drainedvitality: I cant see you signing Gerrard tbh. If/when he becomes available I'd say either Chelsea or Real will be able to snap him before you do. Not only can those clubs out bid you but they could offer a higher percentage of the transfer fee up front rather than over so many months. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> How do you work that out? We are the richest club in football and always offer most of a transfer fee up front and generally offer massive wages. Just because Gill says there is no money to spend without selling players first does not mean we cant afford but we are looking at the bigger picture and keeping within the business plan that has made us the richest club in the world. That said sadly i dont see us signing him. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Anything Man Utd can offer, Chelsea could double. Simple as. Gerrard would be ideal for United though. Perfect replacement for Keane imo. And I can see Fergie fighting tooth and nail to get him. I just feel that he will lose out on this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonch19 Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 i agree. sadly, 3 players that would be absolutely awesome for us we won't/didn't get: robben, ronaldinho and gerrard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick OGS20 Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by drainedvitality: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Taz & The Devil: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by drainedvitality: I cant see you signing Gerrard tbh. If/when he becomes available I'd say either Chelsea or Real will be able to snap him before you do. Not only can those clubs out bid you but they could offer a higher percentage of the transfer fee up front rather than over so many months. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> How do you work that out? We are the richest club in football and always offer most of a transfer fee up front and generally offer massive wages. Just because Gill says there is no money to spend without selling players first does not mean we cant afford but we are looking at the bigger picture and keeping within the business plan that has made us the richest club in the world. That said sadly i dont see us signing him. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Anything Man Utd can offer, Chelsea could double. Simple as. Gerrard would be ideal for United though. Perfect replacement for Keane imo. And I can see Fergie fighting tooth and nail to get him. I just feel that he will lose out on this one. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Chelsea could offer double, yeah, but your assuming that Mourinho wants him (and would want to offer him megabucks and risk squad unrest) and that money is the be-all and end-all for Gerrard. I'm sure Liverpool are paying him a handsome sum, and I think it's pretty clear the only reason he would consider leaving is to win things. If he sees United as viable contenders for major trophies, then why not? The Smith and Rooney transfers have broken down a lot of barriers - there's been no backlash at United and nowhere near as much as feared in Leeds or Liverpool. Add to that the opportunity to stay in the North West and the fact he's best mates with Wayne (BB ran with this as their main story this month, with sources suggesting the deal's not as unfeasible as some would suggest, and also suggesting Gerrard wasn't interested in Chelsea after Kenyon dropped him in it re: certain text messages in the summer). Meh, I'm just playing devil's advocate tbh as I don't think we'll get him, but you never know.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonch19 Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 you could argue though that chelsea are more likely to win things the way theyre going at the moment, and it'd avoid the inevitable liverpool backlash he'd face. i dont think we'll get him but then i never thought smith would join us so what do i know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick OGS20 Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 But like I said, would they want him? Where's he going to play? Mourinho has shown he's not interested in accumulating a huge squad of great players only to have to leave half of them in the stands on match day. Are they really going to fork out £30m or so, plus presumably a 6-figure weekly salary, on someone they don't really need? I'm not sure even Chelsea are that obscenely reckless in the transfer market. Besides, I think a lot of people are coming round to the idea that Fergie's building his next great side here, and the lure of being the driving force behind that - the final piece of the jigsaw - might be a very attractive one and worth the hassle. Plus, he'll have company with Wayne and his missus can spend all day every day frittering away his massive wage packet with young Coleen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drainedvitality Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 I dont doubt that he would like to play for United, I just feel that right now with Chelsea's financial muscle they can sign whoever is willing to play for them. And as far as winning trophies goes, only time will tell but I think that Chelsea are far better equiped than United. You do bring up a good point regarding Kenyon. Though we dont really know what went on there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
player_65 Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Fact or fiction: To begin, a free for all that isn't strictly fact or fiction but follows the same principle of predicting the near immediate future... 1) Who will we sign? If no-one, put no-one. If someone, please put: Player/Permanent or Loan (If permanent, then immediate or Pre-contract) no-one 2) Who will we sell? If no-one, put no-one. If someone, please put: Player/to which club/Permanent or Loan (If permanent, then immediate or Pre-contract) Kleberson/At. Madrid/Loan (with view to permanent), Djemba-Djemba (prays)/PSG/Permanent Now on to the proper stuff... 3) Glazer will mount a full takeover bid (nb. he has not done this to date; preliminary talks and speculation will not count as fact.) FACT - but an unsuccessful one 4) We will win against: a) Bolton FACT b) Villa FACT c) Boro FACT d) Spurs FACT e) Exeter (FA Cup) FACT (nb. I am not including replays. f) Chelsea (Carling Cup Semi Final Away Leg) FICTION g) Liverpool FICTION h) Aston Villa FACT i) Chelsea (Carling Cup Semi Final Home Leg) FACT - but it won't be enough 5) Ruud will be back by the Liverpool game (15/01/05). FICTION 6) We will be less than 9 points behind Chelsea at the end of January. FACT 7) Giggs will have signed a new contract by the end of January. FACT 8) Roy Carroll will have signed a new contract by the end of January. FICTION - he's off 9) Should we get there, we will draw a Premiership team in the fourth round of the FA Cup. FICTION 10) Should we get there, we will have a home tie in the fourth round of the FA Cup. FACT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatter Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 1) Who will we sign? No-one. 2) Who will we sell? Spector - Loan - Blackburn (obvious choice) 3) Glazer will mount a full takeover bid Fact - He will launch a bid. Whether it succeeds or not is another matter 4) We will win against: a) Bolton - Fact b) Villa - Fact c) Boro - Fact d) Spurs - Fact e) Exeter (FA Cup) - Fact f) Chelsea (Carling Cup Semi Final _Away Leg_) - Fiction g) Liverpool - Fact h) Aston Villa - Fact i) Chelsea (Carling Cup Semi Final _Home Leg_) - Fiction 5) Ruud will be back by the Liverpool game (15/01/05). - Fiction 6) We will be less than 9 points behind Chelsea at the end of January. - Fact 7) Giggs will have signed a new contract by the end of January. - Fact 8) Roy Carroll will have signed a new contract by the end of January. - Fiction 9) Should we get there, we will draw a Premiership team in the fourth round of the FA Cup. - Fact 10) Should we get there, we will have a home tie in the fourth round of the FA Cup. - Fiction Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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