Ernest166 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I am playing with Liverpool. Which one is the best plug-and-play for me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 8, 2017 Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 Lpool could probably fit any of formations GOODBYE 3430 should still be best underdog GOODBYE 343 is high scoring with solid defence BLUE MATTER 433 High scoring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby90 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 What is the match training for GOODBYE 343? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 8, 2017 Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 I am using FMT atm but usually use AM for all training. This is from last year with regard to training PRE-SEASON general training -TEAM COHESION HIGH scheduling 50% (no rest before-no rest after match) match preparation = MATCH TACTICS before the 1st game of the season general training -BALANCE AVERAGE (no rest before -REST after match) keep 50% match preparation MATCH TACTICS until 100% fluid, after that the training should be like this general training BALANCE AVERAGE (no rest before- REST after match) 10 or 20 % ( i prefer 10%) match preparation (whatever you like, it depends from the opponent - except match tactics and teamwork , its pointless to use these because when you have 100% fluid your players have good understanding) this till the end of the season , of course if you buy some players in January you drop the familiarity and you must again adjust the scheduling to 50% and match tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 8, 2017 Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 Another 97 pt tactic can't make a ton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardhck73 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 5 hours ago, Ernest166 said: I am playing with Liverpool. Which one is the best plug-and-play for me? blue matter . I recorded 23 consecutive wins. i abandon coutinho, lallan, ox. signed a top striker , play alongside with salah and mane ings, and solanke are good subs need enough midfielders with good marking and tackling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Well, decided to give the underdog a test with Brighton. Its january, and results have been good, but maybe not so great as on FM17.. Or maybe im remembering wrong? Sitting top the PL for Christmas, but the others teams arent having great season atm. Crossing from the wings seem to result in goals against, as my centrebacks cant mark (or clear the ball) for ****. Brighton dont have the best wingbacks in the world, so that might be a reason. They are not getting as many goals or assists as on FM17 either. Beating Liverpool 5-1 was off course a highlight, while i had a bad spell in late november losing 3 in a row. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardhck73 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 40 minutes ago, Rober82 said: Well, decided to give the underdog a test with Brighton. Its january, and results have been good, but maybe not so great as on FM17.. Or maybe im remembering wrong? Sitting top the PL for Christmas whic tactic ? i like to try Brighton too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
acura Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 3 hours ago, edwardhck73 said: blue matter . I recorded 23 consecutive wins. i abandon coutinho, lallan, ox. signed a top striker , play alongside with salah and mane ings, and solanke are good subs need enough midfielders with good marking and tackling. for better results should i prefer FB(s) or WB(a) with blue matter? @knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest166 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 5 hours ago, edwardhck73 said: blue matter . I recorded 23 consecutive wins. i abandon coutinho, lallan, ox. signed a top striker , play alongside with salah and mane ings, and solanke are good subs need enough midfielders with good marking and tackling. Great, thanks for the answer mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giraffin Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 11 hours ago, knap said: Another 97 pt tactic can't make a ton. Which formation is this one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 Tweak of 343. FB/WBs are a key adjusting position. If you watch AI formation they will often attack down one side with an attacking IF/W or RMD. There is a risk reward element to going attacking or defensive with your FB/WBs. If they go all out attack will have 4 AI fwds staying up all the time. Depending on state of game and how risk adverse you are as a Manger will depend on whether you want to implement defensive options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giraffin Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 20 minutes ago, knap said: Tweak of 343. FB/WBs are a key adjusting position. If you watch AI formation they will often attack down one side with an attacking IF/W or RMD. There is a risk reward element to going attacking or defensive with your FB/WBs. If they go all out attack will have 4 AI fwds staying up all the time. Depending on state of game and how risk adverse you are as a Manger will depend on whether you want to implement defensive options. So you've only tweaked the Wingbacks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 That was in answer to acura question. In essence the defence is just GOODBYE from last year so mainly looking at the attacking aspect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 Brighton results are interesting as I assume GOODBYE 3430. The ME has changed in subtle ways from FM17, as I could not make a GOODBYE 343 to work as well as in FM 18, but the 3430 is also still working. It would be interesting to run the Brighton half season again with the real ME Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby90 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Should i play GOODBYE 343 or GOODBYE 3430 with Spurs?Which one is better in your opinion?? And also what about changing the GOODBYE 343 mentality to counter-attack and the wb to support role?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 I play Spurs on the basis of winning PL 1st season with just original squad. I therefore used the 4321 tactic. GOODBYE 343 is awkward for the Spurs squad but if Kane is retrained as SS then GOODBYE 3430 works well. The other tactic for Spurs is GOODBYE 3421 which again I set up specifically for Spurs as a formation they use The tactics are set up in a very specific manner and any changes mean you go into untested territory. As such, I only recommend using SUS tactics, BLUE MATTER/goodbye 343 as an attack tactic, perhaps if needing a goal going defensive and pushing up D/Line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby90 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Where can i find GOODBYE 3421 for FM18 beta?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger100 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Playing as Liverpool and using Barcelona 343 and so far second season I am on a 38 game unbeaten run and some of that goes back to season 1 when I won everything but used a couple of different tactics, but have settled on 343 and we play lovely football and I can accommodate some youngsters and wide men as I used shadow strikers for some of the first season but wasn't happy with the football we played despite winning and I could not get some of the younger boys into the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 11 hours ago, edwardhck73 said: Goodbye 3430, Im sure Knap has a link for it in the first post of this thread. Its FM 17 WB Version. Knap,I will probably have a go again with a relegation candidate in the PL, as well as Fc United, and Rosenborg when the instant result skin is up and running. I find the results encouraging as well so far, but need instant result to be sure. I cant seem to figure out which players work best in the Shadow Strikers positions atm. I would think pace and acc are imp as it is a counter, but the best performers so far i Juan Mata at United.. So i guess not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 All in OP and Spurs can also use the 4231. I also use a 4231 narrow with Spurs but that is not firing on all cylinders atm FMT has instant result. Eriksen is also a great SS and Kane becomes exceptional, but I like the balance Spurs can have with Lamela. I wish they would change the mentality to low to high risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brigzi Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, knap said: All in OP and Spurs can also use the 4231. I also use a 4231 narrow with Spurs but that is not firing on all cylinders atm FMT has instant result. Eriksen is also a great SS and Kane becomes exceptional, but I like the balance Spurs can have with Lamela. I wish they would change the mentality to low to high risk. rashidi had a mod for fm17 that changed that to very high risk, high risk and so on, to make it easier for people to understand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnysarg Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 What is the best tactic for a league 2 save please bud Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 I would be easier to understand but mods can cause problems with updates, so I try not to use them. I spent a few years getting a team up from level 10 only for game to crash on promotion to VS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urotsukidoji Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Using 343 with Blackburn. Played 11 won 10 drew 1. Goal difference of +30. Sitting on top of league first game I ever played of FM18 first tactic I have used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadaX Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 @knap Do you have any specific positional traits that I should be looking for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 There is a screenshot of attribute a few posts back or do you mean PPMs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadaX Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 27 minutes ago, knap said: There is a screenshot of attribute a few posts back or do you mean PPMs. Yep, meant ppms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brigzi Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 any intention to update the 4321? been doing the best for me so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 Nor especially - There are good ones usually good movement "gets fwd" moves into channels and bad ones "stay back" "plays with back to goal|" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 Once the full ME is out in 4hrs?? I will see if they still perform or need tweaking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 100 Pts in Beta. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kroshot Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 what tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Good to see you've already mate a start this year Knap'ster! Looks like you'll be the competition this year buddy Did you also hear the rumours that I was dead or something btw?!?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 Yes very disturbing. Saw you were posting again which was really good to see. Franky had good tactics last year and Zyndars are always quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca72 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 1 hour ago, FuSS said: Good to see you've already mate a start this year Knap'ster! Looks like you'll be the competition this year buddy Did you also hear the rumours that I was dead or something btw?!?! Good to see you back FuSS. My 2 favourite tactic makers in one thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Are we going to see a tactical masterclass by FuSS, Knap, CE, and Zyndar? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loisvale Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Really enjoyed the disraeli gears tactics in fm 17. Great to have a range of formations in one place with similar philosophies under the hood. Really allowed you to use all of your squad and keep the opponents guessing. Great to see a repeat of those at some point. Also interesting to see one of your beta 4231 formations has one team instruction - very unknap like! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 I have a few more GOODBYE formations waiting in the wings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
acura Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 10 hours ago, knap said: That was in answer to acura question. In essence the defence is just GOODBYE from last year so mainly looking at the attacking aspect. Thank you again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 2 hours ago, knap said: Yes very disturbing. Saw you were posting again which was really good to see. Franky had good tactics last year and Zyndars are always quality. Yeah, Cleon told me, just found the thread, amazing how these things run away with people Anyway, sorry, no thread-hijack intended, I'm looking forward to giving some of your tactics a go - are any a 4-1-2-2-1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 I call it 451 in OP, but IT was just a test of some of the new roles for FM18. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piaz88 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 38 minutes ago, knap said: I have a few more GOODBYE formations waiting in the wings. Would be awesome if you could realease a fast counter tactic for underdogs (no 4-3-3 please :D) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 We are live - any problems with tactics with new ME???????????????? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkaco Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 I can't import them :S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Tactics have changed to .fmf automaticly but still wont load into fm 18. Those you already have put in the three slots you can save, those will then work. Still going with Brighton, just won the league cup. Will update in a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkaco Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 What do I do then? I've just started a new save and I can't load any tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachVince Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 anyone can upload in fmf the 343 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 Load the old save and tactics being used should load and then save them. !GOODBYE3433P97.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkaco Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 I deleted every save that I had created Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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