McD Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Originally posted by Peacemaker7:I've posted my feelings about Walter earlier in the thread - but I won't let my respect and love for the guy blind me to the fact that he does have blind spots in his management and he can be very very frustrating at times. Personally, I think he's done the job he came to do and should now move perhaps into a General Managers role - he's not getting any younger and next season we will need a lot more in terms of creativity and adventure. I just don't think Walter can deliver that. With the influence and respect WS garners at the club, any other role for him than manager wouldn't work at all. A new guy's role would be completely compromised. He deserves at the very least another year. All managers make frustrating and bemusing decisions at times, along with some very good ones, and he is certainly not the only guilty party in throwing this title away. Ultimately it's up to us to accept the better (and more expensively assembled) side have shown their class over the whole season and won it. For now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacemaker7 Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Well the 'new guy' will be McCoist, so it's a kind of natural progression. Never sure if the General Manager's role works anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacemaker7 Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Does anyone think we'll all be this friendly and agreeable on Thursday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudagar Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Ha ha I was just thinking the same Peacemaker . All fun and games until.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_cfc Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Originally posted by Peacemaker7:Does anyone think we'll all be this friendly and agreeable on Thursday you dont need an answer to that do you i've got a feeling that like last time that both games will not have more than 1 goal in it for the majority of the game. just to make us all nervous as hell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sned Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 I think Dundee Utd being 'cheated' out of the game at Ibrox recently is exactly why they'll be breaking their b******s to beat us Thursday. They won't see it as being cheated against Rangers, they'll see it as being cheated against the OF. Plus every DU fan in the stadium on Thursday would love to see our tears if we lose the title there. I can see us not winning at Tannadice, for sure. Nerves building already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerokus Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Glasgow CIty Centre is gonna be fun on Thursday night. As are the trains and buses from up north. I think if we win 6-5 and youse win 5-0 then GD and GS would be exactly equal. That would be a bit weird! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Originally posted by BWCH:Plus every DU fan in the stadium on Thursday would love to see our tears if we lose the title there. You under-estimate the resentment that's swelled amongst United supporters against us in the last year. I live in Dundee and it is tangible. I'm sure they'd still love to beat an OF side, but a defeat would certainly be sweetened by us losing the league. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how or who United play on Thursday. We shouldn't be relying on anyone other than ourselves and it's because we haven't been able to do that in the last three months that we're in this position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopra_hill Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Would you consider this season a success or failure if you lose the league to celtic but win the two cups. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Originally posted by chopra_hill:Would you consider this season a success or failure if you lose the league to celtic but win the two cups. At the start of the season, when expectations were to start a building a better sqaud, get closer to Celtic in the league and have a reasonable European run, then yes it would have been looked on as a successful season. Because of where the club got to recently and how close they were to the quadruple, it probably wont be looked upon as a succes but should be. The team havent played well enough in the last 3 months but have overachieved and hopefully laid the foundations for a better season next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketheheadlesschicken Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Originally posted by Peacemaker7:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Frankie 7: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tony_cfc: was i right in thinking that the St Mirren fans started signing "your just a skinny Eddie Murphy" when Beasley came on I also thought i heard them singing, "Where's you trophy now". Yeah there were giving it mad licks tonight. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Yeah must be great to gloat over a team that were in the UEFA Cup Final whilst you sit 10th in the SPL in your midden of a stadium. Shows how thick they are. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> When you've been hearing constantly about "the quadruple", it's hard not to have a laugh. A bit like when you hear for weeks solid about England and then they get beat on penalties yet again. I don't see why they shouldn't laugh just because they didn't choose a team that wins all the time and has a UEFA 5 star rated stadium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Dundee United manager Craig Levein has played down a training ground incident involving captain Lee Wilkie and youngster Mihael Kovacevic. Must have been arguing over who will score an OG first. [F.A.O. Stan petrov -> ] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATW Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Originally posted by tony_cfc:was i right in thinking that the St Mirren fans started signing "your just a skinny Eddie Murphy" when Beasley came on They stole that of us. We sang that to Darchiville or what ever his name is but we sang "You're just a fat Eddie Murphy" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HD Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 When you've been hearing constantly about "the quadruple", it's hard not to have a laugh. A bit like when you hear for weeks solid about England and then they get beat on penalties yet again. I don't see why they shouldn't laugh just because they didn't choose a team that wins all the time and has a UEFA 5 star rated stadium. Yep. Unlike Rangers fans, St Mirren's don't expect to win things. 10th in the SPL is a great season for them and they're enjoying it. Which, after all, is what football is all about. Enjoyment. Anyway, they're bulldozing that midden of a stadium soon and the new one is half-done already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Don't mind a bit of banter from the smaller teams like St Mirren, Aberdeen and Celtic, as long as they can take it back. How anodyne would going to a football match be without that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleyjag Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Breaking news Pre season match arranged for gers already:- Following the events of last Wednesday in Manchester, Rangers are set to announce a pre-season match against Manchester's riot police. Apparently Walter Smith thought it would be a good test for the club as the Manchester riot police are the only opposition they have attacked in Europe this year. Boom, boom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacemaker7 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Originally posted by HD:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">When you've been hearing constantly about "the quadruple", it's hard not to have a laugh. A bit like when you hear for weeks solid about England and then they get beat on penalties yet again. I don't see why they shouldn't laugh just because they didn't choose a team that wins all the time and has a UEFA 5 star rated stadium. Yep. Unlike Rangers fans, St Mirren's don't expect to win things. 10th in the SPL is a great season for them and they're enjoying it. Which, after all, is what football is all about. Enjoyment. Anyway, they're bulldozing that midden of a stadium soon and the new one is half-done already. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Poor bastards live in Paisley as well so..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOORAY HENRIK Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Originally posted by ATW:They stole that of us. We sang that to Darchiville or what ever his name is but we sang "You're just a fat Eddie Murphy" It was sung at Ibrox when we played them months ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Originally posted by HOORAY HENRIK:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ATW: They stole that of us. We sang that to Darchiville or what ever his name is but we sang "You're just a fat Eddie Murphy" It was sung at Ibrox when we played them months ago. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> was actually going to say that - the DMB variation was just stupidity, but they obviously a bunch of idiots who support a pish team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_cfc Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Naismith out for a year supposedly 6 months for Burke too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted May 20, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted May 20, 2008 So Naismith looking at being out for the entire 08/09 season then. Jings. Step up John Fleck! I'd have thought Burke would have been a candidate to be sold in the Summer. Don't think anyone will sign someone who is crocked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 I'd have thought Burke would have been a candidate to be sold in the Summer. Don't think anyone will sign someone who is crocked. bad news indeed feel sorry for Naisy though, was developing to be a good player for us and then done by a combination of a stamp on his leg and a shocking pitch at the National stadium Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFurball Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 I've always believed that goals scored should take precedence over goal difference. Football needs to reward teams who attack and score goals more. (No I'm not fishing, although I realise there's a bit of irony in applying that to us this season. ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan petrov Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 eh, what? goal difference takes into account both attacking and defending, there is no argument whatsoever for rewarding scoring more goals over conceding less and vice versa, and a rangers fan of all people sould know that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 I've always preffered the head to head way. It works well in Spain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 I can't believe we've actually scored more goals than Celtic this year even if it's only one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFurball Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Originally posted by Gary Toner:I've always preffered the head to head way. It works well in Spain. Head to head is rubbish. The league should be won over how you perform over 38 games, not 2. Barcelona were the best team in Spain last year but lost the league because they played poorly in 2 games against Real Madrid. Stan, it's the way I've always felt. Teams that are open and attacking should be rewarded. If the goal difference situation was the other way round, and Celtic ended the season with more goals scored but a poorer goal difference, then I'd feel a smidgeon of sympathy for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Rotten news for Naismith. Long struggle ahead for the poor lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzza Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Rino staying at Milan till he retires according to the man himself Absolutely gutting news for Naismith, was really looking forward to seeing him in action more next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 The injuries to both Burke and Naismith happened on 20th April so I wonder why it was so long before they had their operations? Lets hope, especially for Naismith, that the estimated time out is deliberately high and he will be back before that. I also Hope that Walter is currently looking for wingers to buy now. Any names in the frame? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted May 21, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted May 21, 2008 We were linked with Mark Reynolds (Motherwell) yesterday and today it's Lee Wallace (Hearts) Both defensive players and are left sided I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacemaker7 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Mark Reynold's would be a good signing I think, he's fairly young yeah, and looks like he will be a good player. Would learn a lot beside Carlos and Weir. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacemaker7 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Originally posted by Andy "Muzza" Murray:Rino staying at Milan till he retires according to the man himself NO! Come home Rino Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted May 21, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted May 21, 2008 Looks like we'll be playing Ayr on 28th July in a testimonial for their groundsman David Harkness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HD Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Could have told you that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFurball Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Yeah, but you didn't, so Ter did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaberdeenn Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Are any of you lot coming up tonight? Apparently 10k are headed up to Aberdeen and 10k headed to Dundee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaberdeenn Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 And according to the paper yesterday afternoon over 18,500 tickets were already sold and the ticket office are expecting a near sell-out. Gonna be a hell of a night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaberdeenn Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Originally posted by aaberdeenn:And according to the paper yesterday afternoon over 18,500 tickets have already [/b]been[/b] sold and the ticket office are expecting a near sell-out. Gonna be a hell of a night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaberdeenn Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Originally posted by aaberdeenn:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by aaberdeenn: And according to the paper yesterday afternoon over 18,500 tickets have already been sold and the ticket office are expecting a near sell-out. Gonna be a hell of a night. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovenkrands01 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 I got the point from the first post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted May 22, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted May 22, 2008 All we can do is try and win the match tonight. Goal difference isn't going to win it for us. There is no way we're going to win 5-0 and Celtic 1-0. All we can hope for is someone like Noel Hunt doing what Scott McDonald did a few years ago, and I can't see that happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Dean Gripton Posted May 22, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted May 22, 2008 No pecific thread for tonight's games yet, so I'll ask here. I presume games are both on Setanta? Or just the game at Tannadice? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacemaker7 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 As far as I know both games are on Setanta. Can't really be arsed tbh, now way in a million hells are Celtic going to even come close to not winning. Just hope they score three in the first five minutes and then it's deffo all over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCatAFC Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 Originally posted by Gripper:No pecific thread for tonight's games yet, so I'll ask here. I presume games are both on Setanta? Or just the game at Tannadice? Dundee United/Celtic on Setanta 1 Aberdeen/Rangers on Setanta 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted May 22, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted May 22, 2008 I'm going to bring down at EasyJet flight this evening by keeping my phone on and listening to it on BBC Five Live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted May 22, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted May 22, 2008 And the last Rangers game I didn't watch that was on TV (when I wasn't at the match) was Helicopter Sunday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleyjag Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 Bit worried about what to do tonight. Either lock myself in the house with no other means than SSN keeping me informed or head out into a pub here and hope that the Aberdeen and other Rangers fans behave themselves whilst the game is on. MON THE ARABS! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted May 22, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted May 22, 2008 Don't know if anyone else has posted this before, or they know already but haven't posted. Anyway, it's not against a diddy team this time and we're meant to be playing Liverpool at Ibrox on Saturday July 26th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleyjag Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 Aye, they are playing Caley for Barry Wilson's testimonial in August as well (on a Monday night of all days!). Got my tickets arranged for that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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