x42bn6 Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 I was busy looking around for players (transfer window time) and I found a perfect player - if he was stood still all the time. My question is: What are the chances that a player gets generated with absolutely pathetic physical attributes (makes BSN level look like the Premiership) but nearly-perfect technical and mental attributes for his position? His attributes are all random in the database (he starts at Brescia, and is a 79/-8, if I recall correctly). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 My question is: What are the chances that a player gets generated with absolutely pathetic physical attributes (makes BSN level look like the Premiership) but nearly-perfect technical and mental attributes for his position? Yeah I've noticed this, seems to happen quite a lot in FM08. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers08 Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Looks perfect the play maker , central midfeild / behind the striker type role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers08 Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 9th january ...My birthday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
x42bn6 Posted October 11, 2008 Author Share Posted October 11, 2008 Yeah I've noticed this, seems to happen quite a lot in FM08. Well, even for rubbish newgen standards, surely this sets a new low! Looks perfect the play maker , central midfeild / behind the striker type role. I don't know, really. He makes Claude Davis look like Usain Bolt, has the turning radius of the Titanic, has the balance of Didier Drogba brushing against an opponent (conveniently in the opponent's penalty area), the jumping ability of a falling ball and the fitness of "Joe Six-Pack"... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nils Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Looks like Maradona in today's shape Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHAVFC Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 9th january ...My birthday. That's sorted then. In 2015 your birthday is on a Friday. Put it on the calander already. Friday 9th January 2015 "smithers08's birthday" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 I don't know, he's got OTB 17... he just has to do it quite slowly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Look at the blokes height & weight, about 5' 6" & 9st (ish) & yet he has 15+ strength, the bloke is a little Hercules so no wonder he has no pace of agility, he's just a block of muscle. Seriously though, I'd have thought first touch, dribbling, creativity & technique stats like his should be accompanied by high balance & agility stats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnK41.int Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 what's your skin ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philly_flyer10 Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Thats why FM was unplayable once the real players retired, the physical stats need to be separated from the technical ones so the technically great players dont use up all the PA on that and end up with the athletic ability of homer simpson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdiatmh Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 I don't know, really. He makes Claude Davis look like Usain Bolt, has the turning radius of the Titanic, has the balance of Didier Drogba brushing against an opponent (conveniently in the opponent's penalty area), the jumping ability of a falling ball and the fitness of "Joe Six-Pack"... made me lol wow, i never actually got that far into a game before the furthest i got was 10years (way back in CM04? - it was the one where chelsea got rich) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike7077 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 It's like what would happen to Lionel Messi if he exclusively ate pasties! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beneamata Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 it's like what would happen to lionel messi if he exclusively ate pasties! lmao! 10 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjquick Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 9th january ...My birthday. Mine too. xD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
salzia27 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 I dont think he is a Newgen....I seem to remember Depetris from 2007.Check if he has italian nationality[not after days achieved but before that] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne\'o Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 when this happens guys, i know some people may not like to do this but why dont you take nature into your own hands and play god, by that you could use the FMM editor and boost his poor physical stats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy13 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Regens have been fixed in FM09 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkeoh Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Regens have been fixed in FM09 Lets hope so i guess we will have to wait till the game comes out to find out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Aja Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 SI have addressed the issue of poor physical attributes for regens (so they say). This is something that has been mentioned consistently on the forums, apparently, and they'd be mad not to fix it. I also hate the fact that players who are "blank" at the beginning of the game (ability-wise), or regens, always end up with high attributes in areas where they don't need them. Like high crossing and finishing for a CB, yet rubbish tackling and positioning. And then strikers with great tackling and marking, yet awful finishing, composure and the like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
x42bn6 Posted October 12, 2008 Author Share Posted October 12, 2008 I dont think he is a Newgen....I seem to remember Depetris from 2007.Check if he has italian nationality[not after days achieved but before that] Although he's not a newgen, he has all attributes 0 in the editor so the game generates attributes for him based on the weightings SI give - which will presumably give him newgen-ish attributes. what's your skin ? http://www.sortitoutsi.net/index.php?page=downloads&area=file&fileid=5363 made me lolwow, i never actually got that far into a game before the furthest i got was 10years (way back in CM04? - it was the one where chelsea got rich) ??? I'm in my 8th year in the game as you can see. I did get a bit further with Xerez (18 years?) once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adawxawx Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Its maradona wait, no it's not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaza01 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Regens have been fixed in FM09 They say that every year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsk360 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 i use the same skin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theres only one GV! Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Quote: Originally Posted by smithers08 View Post 9th january ...My birthday. Mine too. xD Mine too!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickooko Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Regens have been fixed in FM09 They say that every year x 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanricouk Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Its a known problem, and ruined the game once the real players retired. FM07 had regens with bad technical stats FM08 had regens with bad physical stats I expect FM09 will have regens with bad mental stats. Regens all as thick as Djib Cisse! Oh noez! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themistofelis Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Jumping 1 is so much fun , he can not jump over a folded newspaper , not to mention that whales are much more agile and my grandmother can outpace him . I just hope that regens start at the age of 14 with CA 1and no position in 09 so we can shape their stats via training and tutoring . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glamdring Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Unfortunately this has been one of those things like corners and throw-ins - one version something is way over-powered or under-powered and the next version it tends to be "fixed" by going too much the other way. I can't remember the version now, but in one version you could have all manner of players doing Rory Delap-esque long throw ins, now long throws are useless except when the AI for some reason totally fails to mark a man in the box, which is clearly a bug rather than a great tactic from the human player. Corners have also been up and down like a yo-yo in terms of effectiveness from version to version because they are, I assume, very hard to get balanced. As for regens, for some reason there has always been certain attributes that are appalling - in FM06 you were lucky to find a regen with Determination greater than ~5, in CM03/04 regens physical stats were generally good, but technical stats were irrelevant because the match engine rewarded pace and jumping so much that Usain Bolt would be able to score hatfulls. I really hope regens are nicely balanced in FM09 because in every version I have the dream of trying to build a team entirely out of my youth system, but CM03/04 is the only version I've come close to doing that successfully in and that was a lot because of the match engine "bug" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
x42bn6 Posted October 13, 2008 Author Share Posted October 13, 2008 Jumping 1 is so much fun , he can not jump over a folded newspaper , not to mention that whales are much more agile and my grandmother can outpace him .I just hope that regens start at the age of 14 with CA 1and no position in 09 so we can shape their stats via training and tutoring . A CA of 1 wouldn't get a player into a BSN/S's Under-18s team... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themistofelis Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 A CA of 1 wouldn't get a player into a BSN/S's Under-18s team... It can if the developing process that includes age is expanded a bit 14 years old CA 1 15 years old CA 40 16 years old CA 70 17 years old CA 100 18 years old CA 120 in an ideal situation ( good coaches & no injuries ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcgee Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I'd be happy with that, except a Rooney/ Messi sort of player every once in a while. I agree with newgens having completly pointless stats needing to be fixed. I believe the future on the game requires the human player to mould the stats of a young player, not rising uniformly as they do now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomis07 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 This guy isn't a newgen though, is he? :confused: So perhaps he really is pretty slow and can't jump very well IRL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
solstar Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Play him behind the striekr or stick a fast guy next to him and get him trying through balls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonfun1980 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 SI say every year the regens have been fixed, lets hope this time they mean it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Äktsjon Männ Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 This guy isn't a newgen though, is he? :confused: So perhaps he really is pretty slow and can't jump very well IRL. He has random attributes in the database (values set to zero). Which means the attribute generation should be done similarly to how it's done for regens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terras-FM Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Is he a Regen without the Face or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terras-FM Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 My bad just read the post but happens alot good players weak reminds me of how i use to play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerner Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 it must suck to realise that your once perfect player actually has completely shocking physical attributes. But he could be the next Nick Carle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnCanary Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Its maradonawait, no it's not It's Maradona at his technical best, playing in his current physical state [] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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