Jamezfc Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Taken from FM Scout. Won the league with Everton in 1st season. 110 goals. This is crazy. 4-3-1-2 Gamebreaker - What to expect Fueled by pure hatred of the dominance 4-2-3-1 tactics, I decided to try and break them. Using a patient, narrow, short passing possession based style. I have received staggering results with this one and I will share them with you. This strategy marches down the centre of the pitch and a cold methodical way. Quick passes in a tight space with many options for the person in possession due to the amount of bodies in a small area. 90+ goals with West Ham after one season using this. Quite possibly a game breaker. This tactic meets the philosophies of Play attacking football AND play possession based football without the use of wingers. High Possession High Shot count Plenty of goals from set plays. Return of the Target Man in Football Manager. Consistently punch above your weight. Meets criteria for both Play Attacking Football and Play Possession football Club Philosophies 4-3-1-2 Gamebreaker - Team Makeup Positional sense is of the utmost importance. Solid, hardworking, committed physical players who will work as a team to win tackles and be able to pick the correct pass. Gamebreaker - Key Attributes and PPM's per position First line is PPM's and second line is key stats.GK: none -Arial Ability, Command of Area, Concentration.FB: none-Anticipation, Strength, Positioning, Teamwork, Work rate. BPD: Tries Long Range Passes-Composure, Passing, PositioningCD: Marks opponent tightly. -Strength, Aggression, Jumping Reach, Bravery, Tackling, PositioningBWM: Dictates Tempo, Stop Play. Dwells on Ball.-Strength, Positioning, Team Work, Work Rate, Aggression, DecisionsDLP: Comes Deep to get ball, Tries Long Range Passes, Tries Killer Balls Often-Composure, First Touch, Passing, Creativity, Anticipation, Positioning APA: Moves into Channels, Plays One-Twos, Runs with Ball Through Centre, Tries killer balls often. Set as primary set piece taker in the tactic be default.-Composure, First Touch, Passing, Creativity, Anticipation, Off the ball, Flair, VisionTM: Strength, Balance, Heading, Jumping Reach, Finishing, Teamwork.-Plays with back to goal Poacher: Likes to beat Offside trap.- Anticipation, Off The Ball, Finishing, Acceleration, Agility, Composure Remember, the above list is the IDEAL and you should aim for one or two of the PPM's at 'weaker' teams. Iam not creator Gamebreaker 4-3-1-2 by The Reckonist.tac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizza Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Has nobody else downloaded this? Having decided not to buy FM17 I caved in today and have started a journeyman save landing at Weston Super Mare. Currently we're 8 games in, 6 wins and 2 draws, I've totally dominated every game despite being roughly the 3rd/4th worst team in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masmac Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Im using it too with my tiny Bromley FC. Working wonders so far but the lack of quality among my players shines trough from time to time. Defending against crosses are hell, just like with any other tactic :-) Also I haven't yet found the recipe to stand against teams that only plays counter attacking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Race 9 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 this looks very interesting I usually have a save playing as Man Utd so I go traditional with wingers and this wont be suitable however I also try a conference club team where I experiment and this looks ideal for a change of tactics many thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkysrovers Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 If I can convert my wingers to the fwds/am's I might be able to do this but already have my tactic/team set up for this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masmac Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I'm completely powerless when the opposition goes to 4123 DM Wide. Changing the Full Backs to "Defend" and man marking the wingers, seems to help a bit, but overall the opposition just look massively over powered in that formation. I know it's Beta but this is ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTL2877 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I'm currently using something like this. My team instructions are the same, I will change the mentality depending on who I'm up against though. I have slightly different settings for my FBs, I play them as WB with the support role. My midfielders are also slightly different along with my strikers and AMC role. I let the Assistant handle training, however I use the attached OIs. Been working will for me so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTL2877 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I can be a little weak in defence at times and seem to get caught out, but I think that's down to my players more than anything else. *Edit - I've just downloaded the tactic and will see how it fairs for me *Edit-Edit - Just changed my CM/D to a DLP/D and it seems to provide a bit more cover for 2 CDs, will see how I get on with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaameswilliamss Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Used this for a season playing as Swansea City alongside a standard 4-4-1-1 with similar match instructions/player roles. I managed to win the EFL Cup, finished 6th in the Premiership and scored 70+ goals. Genuinely a fantastic tactic but my defence was a shambles, I would always concede first and due to the lack of ambition or leadership in the team, it would take a lot for my team to respond to going behind. Depending on who I was playing I would switch the formation up. So if I came against Hull I would drop the two strikers to the wing and play the AM as a SS or AP and we would get a decent amount of goals. Swansea's squad is quite temperamental though so unless you have wingers who constantly moan about not playing, this tactic is for you haha! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkysrovers Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Is there any Opposition Instructions for this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenevo Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Have to say that this tactic is pretty special! I'm playing as Salford City and decided not to make many changes at all, in fact I only brought in a young striker as backup due to being low on numbers in the squad, so basically I've got pretty much what you start with. We started off against a relatively easy side in Gloucester City in a home tie and we get off to a brilliant start with a 2-0 lead, but soon after half time we were level at 2-2 after they scored twice in 2 minutes. Suddenly I felt maybe this tactic needs to bed in a bit before it's effective? Suddenly James Poole pops up and grabs the winning goal. Off to a good start! Next match we drew 2 - 2 against Stalybride away which I felt was a fair result. Then came the dominance! Arch rivals FC United and we're at home! We got off to a bad start in the 17th minute, but soon enough went level and then the best thing happened, red card for FC United! I cranked up the pressure and changed from control to attacking and the rest is history... 7 - 1!!! Nuneaton 3 - 2 Salford AFC Fylde 0 - 0 Salford Salford 5 - 0 Gainsborough Curzon Ashton 0 - 5 Salford Salford 4 - 2 Alfreton Salford 2 - 2 FC Halifax Kidderminster 1 - 2 Salford Chorley 3 - 1 Salford Salford 5 - 1 Nantwich (FA Cup 2nd Qual Rnd) Salford 3 - 1 Brackley We find ourselves in 3rd place, 3 points behind 1st and 5 points clear of dropping out of the play-off spots. I couldn't be happier, especially with such a small team like Salford and the amazing fact that most of our players don't even fit the tactic properly. We don't have a proper AMC and the only players that are comfortable with their roles are the central midfielders. Next up, FA Cup 3rd Qual Rnd! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgonzalez Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 This was working great for me in my Derby save, got promoted using another tactic but switched to this and was having great results.... but it's started to be less effective now yet I've not changed anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleAlf Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 I like the football beeing produced by this tactic, thanks for sharing. Too early to say how it works for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkysrovers Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Dont update your game - it ruins this tactic!! Whatever tweak was made to the AI has made the opposition defence a lot stronger(too strong). My leading players now look like they deserve to be in the next division down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamezfc Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 18 hours ago, sparkysrovers said: Dont update your game - it ruins this tactic!! Whatever tweak was made to the AI has made the opposition defence a lot stronger(too strong). My leading players now look like they deserve to be in the next division down It still banging goals in for me weird Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkysrovers Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 I managed to piece together a few results, defenders seemed to be a lot more aggresive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonafan70 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Sorry for the stupid question - but what are PPM's? And can they be changed? What ever they are?! Again, sorry for stupid question time!! cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkysrovers Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 PPM - Player Preferred Moves, I think. You can find them in the training page of a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaBola1977 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Great starter tactics and work well initially for me with Everton, but then started to concede quite a few goals mainly against weaker teams I then took over at Shrewsbury after relegated to league 2 and adjusted slightly to play with an anchor man results are played 36, W23, D7, L6 and currently sitting top of league 2 other info removed so as to not hijack the original thread, Apologies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tieio Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Holy thread hijackers in this one Batman! Get your own post people... Seriously though, this looks good, going to give it a try tonight and post later what I find. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kefalo84 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 How do i load the tactic once i download it?? I placed it in "tactics" folder but when i go to load it i don't see it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkysrovers Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 It should be in there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earnie is God! Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 There's a change. I could be wrong but I think now we are in the full game and not the beta, we need the files to be fmf not tac otherwise they don't show up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkysrovers Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 I thought it was a bug - had anyone noticed that your two strikers change position during the matches? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnley Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Please can someone upload this in fmf? Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 7 minutes ago, burnley said: Please can someone upload this in fmf? Thank you. It's in the workshop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
finkenm Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 1 hour ago, edgar555 said: It's in the workshop Where is the workshop? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 1 minute ago, finkenm said: Where is the workshop? Steam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyer Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Tried it with Villa and Tranmere, wasn't too impressed with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandmanager Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 awful tactic for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kefalo84 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Works pretty good for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamBamBam Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Just tried to add this to the game now its been fully released and it doesn't load up....... Any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtrwsmiff Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 It's because it's saved as a .tac and the full version needs them to be .fmf files. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUsedToBeGreat Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 2 hours ago, BamBamBam said: Just tried to add this to the game now its been fully released and it doesn't load up....... Any ideas? I had the same issue went to the FM Scout site - it downloaded and works as in loads... no idea if it works - God knows I need the help! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamBamBam Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 16 minutes ago, mrtrwsmiff said: It's because it's saved as a .tac and the full version needs them to be .fmf files. And how do change it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUsedToBeGreat Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 5 minutes ago, BamBamBam said: And how do change it? remove the .tac and put in .fmf I just got snotted 3-1 at home to Leicester - LOADS of bookings though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamBamBam Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Tried that for my filters and it didn't work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUsedToBeGreat Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, BamBamBam said: Tried that for my filters and it didn't work Ive just sent you a direct message Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUsedToBeGreat Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Jamezfc - What was your Everton team? I have had 2 home games - lost 3-1 in both... Loads of possession and shots on goal BUT defeats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carninho Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 this tactic got my Forest team promoted. I didnt have the best squad to fit the required player roles, i.e. my SS was Garcia on loan from Man City, who is a bit raw for first team football. Its great having a team without IF's or Wingers and playing 2 up front for the first time in years. I'd been stuck in a wide 4321 rut, and really bored of scouting the same players each year, esp when the IF's dry up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamBamBam Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Doing good for me. Started with Southend Utd, predicted finish 19th, currently 5th after 18 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTFC Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Great tactic. I'm in my 3rd season with Cadiz (1st season in Spain's top division) and with a pretty poor squad and expectations of certain relegation I'm 5th in the league after 14 games. I've lost 4 and 3 of those were against Real & Athletico Madrid and Barca. Seriously overperforming considering my usual BWM's are Glenn Whelan, Valon Behrami and Sam Morsy. The first 2 are 34 & 33 respectively and Morsy was released by Wigan in League 1. Stick to the required traits and it's a great tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawsey Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Great little tactic this one & got Walsal promoted up to the Championship for me & helped me land the Hull job. I would say moving down from Control to standard helps when you are in the lead to shut up shop at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGougan33 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 So never played the beta, downloaded the tactic from fm scout. 15 games played, 13 won, 2 drawn. 40 goals scored, 14 conceded. Celtic Football Club was the team, naturally the strongest in the division, however being 2/3rds of the way through the season using a new tactic it`s been fairly impressive. Will be very interesting to see what happens when I have built my own squad around the tactic. Thanks for bringing it to this forum, it presses much better than my own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMFC Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Sorry for the stupid question guys, but how do I transform this fil in .fmf ?? Or where can i find this .tac ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooniebagoonie Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 anyone got a place to get this tactic, downloading it from here and it wont convert to a fmf file, FM Scout is also no good as it wont import Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkysrovers Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 You guys need to go to FM Scout and get it from there. As the creator didnt open this thread, he wont be providing it with updates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 It's available in the steam workshop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUsedToBeGreat Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Thank you - I tweaked it here and there on my Everton save and have just won the title in season 1. I bought players in based on the requirements as stated and it worked a treat! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
penza Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 15 hours ago, IUsedToBeGreat said: Thank you - I tweaked it here and there on my Everton save and have just won the title in season 1. I bought players in based on the requirements as stated and it worked a treat! what tweak did you use? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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