The Manchester United thread 2006/2007 - featuring BBB leaving early

[Nick OGS20]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by James07?:

no matter the opinion on Saha's recent pathetic efforts it's not the game to chuck smudger into? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

nah, probably not. i'd put him in for the Reading replay though

[Scatter]

it is also possible that ole just had a bad game and there's no need to look for any other reason behind it other than that.

[Nick OGS20]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mark g:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick OGS20:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Taz & The Devil:

And to whoever was having a go at Ronaldos distribution yesterday saying Ole got no service he had a great chance about 6 yards out that came from a fantastic cross from Ronaldo. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

true, but that cross took a MASSIVE bobble. literally went from on the ground to hitting halfway up Ole's shin.

sort it out groundsman </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It wasn't a bobble, the defender who was right next to Ole got a touch on it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

god, i must have been really drunk saturday night then. point still stands anyway

[Nick OGS20]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scatter:

it is also possible that ole just had a bad game and there's no need to look for any other reason behind it other than that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

that too. no-one has said 'Ole's legs have gone' after any other game he's played this season iirc, deserves a few more chances before being pensioned off.

[mark g]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick OGS20:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scatter:

it is also possible that ole just had a bad game and there's no need to look for any other reason behind it other than that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

that too. no-one has said 'Ole's legs have gone' after any other game he's played this season iirc, deserves a few more chances before being pensioned off. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just to get a bit more hate thrown at me, goals aside (and he's shown he's not lost that knack), i've not thought his contribution to all round play has been up to scratch more often than not this season. I think he still has a part to play from the bench, but i'm not sure he's up to starting any more.

[mark g]

Does the lack of vitriol coming my way after that comment mean i'm already on more ignore lists than Pires?

[Nick OGS20]

i'm seething far too much to respond right now. just you wait

[SLO_Fila]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mark g:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick OGS20:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Taz & The Devil:

And to whoever was having a go at Ronaldos distribution yesterday saying Ole got no service he had a great chance about 6 yards out that came from a fantastic cross from Ronaldo. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

true, but that cross took a MASSIVE bobble. literally went from on the ground to hitting halfway up Ole's shin.

sort it out groundsman </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It wasn't a bobble, the defender who was right next to Ole got a touch on it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You sure? I saw a bobble as well.

[Nick OGS20]

i'm SURE it was a bobble. just kicked up at the last minute, there wasn't a defender that near.

mika recorded the game i think, will get him to check later

[No Longer Bling]

bikey i think it was that just nudged it onto ole. if im thinking of the same chance anyway.

[Nick OGS20]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF1odn1sHIY

first highlight. not really that clear. either way my point stands, and Taz's point about Ronaldo's end product is rendered invalid because it's clearly Carrick putting the cross in

[Mika]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by alilaw:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by gonch19:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by James07?:

Is anyone actually thinking of going to this treaty of rome thing? £17 a pop I think. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

id love to if only to see becks at ot one last time (assuming we dont get real in later rounds) but i wont be able to take the time off work </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mate he's gone, get over it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Haha

And Becks can rot.

[alilaw]

PLEASE tell me you're joking Mika, please oh please oh PLEASE.

[Mika]

Rot might be harsh but I don't like him.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Boss building for the future

Sir Alex Ferguson is looked forward to the next six or seven years at United, just as he is the next 90 minutes of the club's Champions League campaign.

At his pre-match press conference in France, the boss talked about his plans for the future and the building work which is beginning to pay dividends, both domestically and in Europe.

"What we've tried to do is reconstruct a team that we knew was getting older," he said.

"But we didn't build the present team (just) to win the European Cup. The main issue is to be successful in our own country."

The current crop have already won the Carling Cup, in 2006 - and as he did in '96, Sir Alex is trusting fresh talent as he pursues bigger targets this term and beyond.

"It's difficult to say how long players like Giggs and Scholes and Neville can play at the very top - I think that these are great moments for them certainly," said Sir Alex, ever-mindful of the part his long-serving trio are playing this season.

"But the younger players who've developed at the club, that's where the future is certainly - players like Rooney, Ronaldo, Vidic, Evra, Fletcher, O'Shea and Park.

"They're all good ages. They can stay together and grow as a team for the next six or seven years. That's what we expect and we hope our calculations are right.

"In that six-, seven-year period we have a great chance of winning things. Hopefully the European Cup is one of them." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Richardson cruelly omitted there, wp Fergie.

[alilaw]

OK. We'll skip over the fact that his and Ruud's situations were pretty much identical and that Beckham's just as much of a United legend and was arguably a bigger loss to the team

[Mika]

I'm not comparing him to Ruud and I'm not doing down Becks' contribution to us in any way.

I just don't like the guy.

[alilaw]

Alright

[Nick OGS20]

part of me hates Becks for the way he disappeared up his own arse and engineered his move away, but he was a hero for ages and ultimately i still think he's fb :*)

[Mika]

I always thought he was a pillock to be fair, great player though.

[Razor Eddie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick OGS20:

Larsson wasn't marked if he passes early. only by the time he's been forced wide and has clearly made his mind up is Larsson marked.

frankly i'd query the 'has the ability to score from there' part too, he's possibly the worst striker i've ever seen when clean through on goal with time to think and i had no confidence whatsoever in him tucking that away, especially on his right foot.

i stand by everything i've said about him. lazy, moody, mentally fragile, needs a slap. he's a passenger atm </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Big Ron lives. \o/

Sorry, just catching up.

[ACou2000]

good to see Saha coming out today and saying how confident everyone feels

you'd never guess he was confident given the way he was playing...

he's still fb though

[SLO_Fila]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mika:

Rot might be harsh but I don't like him.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Boss building for the future

Sir Alex Ferguson is looked forward to the next six or seven years at United, just as he is the next 90 minutes of the club's Champions League campaign.

At his pre-match press conference in France, the boss talked about his plans for the future and the building work which is beginning to pay dividends, both domestically and in Europe.

"What we've tried to do is reconstruct a team that we knew was getting older," he said.

"But we didn't build the present team (just) to win the European Cup. The main issue is to be successful in our own country."

The current crop have already won the Carling Cup, in 2006 - and as he did in '96, Sir Alex is trusting fresh talent as he pursues bigger targets this term and beyond.

"It's difficult to say how long players like Giggs and Scholes and Neville can play at the very top - I think that these are great moments for them certainly," said Sir Alex, ever-mindful of the part his long-serving trio are playing this season.

"But the younger players who've developed at the club, that's where the future is certainly - players like Rooney, Ronaldo, Vidic, Evra, Fletcher, O'Shea and Park.

"They're all good ages. They can stay together and grow as a team for the next six or seven years. That's what we expect and we hope our calculations are right.

"In that six-, seven-year period we have a great chance of winning things. Hopefully the European Cup is one of them." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Richardson cruelly omitted there, wp Fergie. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Everybody cheer \O/

[BBB]

applied for 4 reading

MON

[Blaine]

completely preditable but still raised a

[Blaine]

*predictable...

[BBB]

already posted mate

[red&white army]

Richardson is usless. he really is not good enough for Man Utd.

i also have a personal hatred for him as he once pulled a girl I really liked (allegedly)

[Taz & The Devil]

Ruud and Becks were both great for the club and both made big contributions while here but would you class them both as legends?

[DeafParrot]

Yeah right lads, Mika having anything but utter contempt for a man thats not only played for, but CAPTAINED England. Pull the other one.

[mark g]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Manchester United's hopes of keeping Henrik Larsson to the end of the season appear doomed to failure after the Swedish striker strongly indicated he could not be persuaded into staying longer. As Larsson prepared for the game here against Lille for his first Champions League tie since winning the final in Paris last season with Barcelona, he said his intention was to return to Helsingborgs when his loan deal expires on March 12.

"I am not saying that I am not flattered or grateful to get the opportunity to extend my stay but there are other things I need to think about," he said, citing family reasons and a sense of duty to Helsingborgs. "The Swedish season starts at the end of March and I need to get back to that. I will stay only until March 12."

Unless Larsson can be persuaded otherwise his only involvement for United in their attempt to re-establish themselves as European football's top club will come tonight against Lille, followed by the return leg on March 7, theoretically his farewell match at Old Trafford. Although Larsson is clearly relishing his time under Sir Alex Ferguson, he says the travel is getting him down and he wants to be back with his family. "I am going back and forward and it's not an ideal situation."

United intend to do everything possible to change his mind but it is noticeable, too, that Ferguson seems increasingly resigned to losing the 35-year-old. When Ferguson was asked about Alan Smith's inability to break into the team he remarked that the former Leeds player would be more prominently involved "when", rather than if, Larsson leaves.

Behind the scenes Ferguson is trying his utmost to persuade Larsson that he can play a significant part in what promises to be a season of rich reward. United have been encouraged by the noises emanating from Helsingborgs, who have said they will consider extending Larsson's loan if they receive a suitable fee. Yet the player insists the decision will not be a financial one. "This is a great adventure for me," he said. "I arrived in January and I'm going home in March to play in Sweden. It suits me perfectly."

Larsson described himself as "happy and surprised" he had started the majority of matches and he made a point of thanking the club for doing everything possible to help him acclimatise to life in Manchester. "I came here to be available, to make the best of the opportunity."

The admiration is mutual and Ferguson would be disappointed to lose such a formidable player. While Wayne Rooney and Cristiano Ronaldo have struggled at times in Europe, certainly in terms of scoring goals, some of the more memorable performances of Larsson's career have been reserved for the Champions League, most notably when his introduction as substitute turned last season's final against Arsenal.

"To become a great team you need to win trophies," Larsson said when asked about United's chances of glory. "When I look at this squad, they have a lot of talent. They have players who have been there and done it. Then there are the younger guys who really want to make their mark by winning trophies. They have had some great teams before but only the future will tell if the current side can truly be thought of a great team."

Ferguson feels Larsson has improved the other forwards at the club. "He has made a big impact already," Ferguson said. "I'm sure that since he has arrived players like Wayne Rooney and Luis Saha must have been looking at Henrik in terms of his movement and his awareness of space and they will have been watching his finishing in our training sessions. The bonus for us is if he takes us into the later stages of everything we're challenging for. He's been fantastic for us, his professionalism, his attitude, everything he's done has been excellent."

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Take his passport Fergie

[BigBrother]

Larsson is good, but he seems to be a stop-gap signing and he'll stay till the end of the season max.

Man U need some new blood up front IMO, and should be going for a Torres or Villa in the summer.

[DeafParrot]

No to your lot signing Villa. Pretty please.

[Saha]

We already signed Torres, mate. It was the same day we signed Hargreaves and Mascherano.

[Taz & The Devil]

I dont think Smith will be ready to have any impact for us this season. While hes doing a lot better now he doesnt seem to be close to where he was before his injury. I think its going to be a case of next season for him after hes had a good pre season under his belt.

[BigBrother]

I think Smith is edging ever closer to the exit door tbh. He's not going to get a game in midfield because you signed Carrick and he's definitely not going to dislodge Rooney or Saha.

I can see him going to Spurs/Newcastle/Middlesbrough next season.

[Taz & The Devil]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BigBrother:

Larsson is good, but he seems to be a stop-gap signing and he'll stay till the end of the season max.

Man U need some new blood up front IMO, and should be going for a Torres or Villa in the summer. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Larsson was always a stop gap signing and was never being talked about past this season. He is 35 years old and has been brought in to help us finish the season on a high.

And whoever thinks we are bringing in a Torres or a Villa is dreaming. The simple fact is someone like Hargreaves is top priority and anyone who thinks the days of us being able to afford two top players in one summer are deluding themselves, we are skint.

[Mika]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DeafParrot:

Yeah right lads, Mika having anything but utter contempt for a man thats not only played for, but CAPTAINED England. Pull the other one. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Rumbled

[Keyser]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mika:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DeafParrot:

Yeah right lads, Mika having anything but utter contempt for a man thats not only played for, but CAPTAINED England. Pull the other one. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Rumbled </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Tenner Huey]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Taz & The Devil:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BigBrother:

Larsson is good, but he seems to be a stop-gap signing and he'll stay till the end of the season max.

Man U need some new blood up front IMO, and should be going for a Torres or Villa in the summer. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Larsson was always a stop gap signing and was never being talked about past this season. He is 35 years old and has been brought in to help us finish the season on a high.

And whoever thinks we are bringing in a Torres or a Villa is dreaming. The simple fact is someone like Hargreaves is top priority and anyone who thinks the days of us being able to afford two top players in one summer are deluding themselves, we are skint. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Going home in March according to the BBC this morning.

[alilaw]

Surprised at how un-'up' for this game I am really...

How long's Bodmer been back for Lille btw? Is it a case of him being match fit again, or is he being rushed back for this?

[James07?]

I feel the same way...it's tonight isn't it?

[Coldberg]

Larsson feels he owes it to Helsingborgs to go back when he originally planned I guess. It's just the kind of professional he is.

I have a good feeling about tonight for some reason.

[Scatter]

bloody hell... both espn and sbs showing the madrid games

looks like alternative means are in order

[Saha]

ffs scatter, stop bringing bad news.

ruud though :*)

[James07?]

The end of season ‘Mika’ scenario. 4-5-1 tonight. Rooney does his knee ligaments. 0-1, only a point at Fulham, win against Reading but 0-3 against the Scouse, Lille lose 2-1 at OT with a last minute offside goal, league form continues to stutter, FA Cup defeat on penalties against City in the semi, more dropped points at home, Robbie Fowler consigns us to a league defeat at the boo camp and a 4-0 hammering on the Wednesday at Stamford bridge confirms their title. West Ham then beat us to stay up. Joey Barton slaps in the winner in the Cup Final and Gerrard’s double against Chelsea makes it 6 times for the scouse.

The other version Lille dispatched. Wins at Fulham and Liverpool see us 12 pts clear. League form sparkling. Chelsea just about keeping up. Arsenal hammered in the FA Cup semi. Real Madrid beaten (Ruud misses penalty). 4-0 at the Boo Camp seals the title, with a dead rubber at the Bridge to celebrate this time at Stamford Bridge. The reserves relegate West Ham, a 2-0 half time deficit is turned around at Wembley as Citeh’s 1st trophy for 31 years is snatched away bluuuuuue moon, you started singing too soon…. Athens, scousers, sccchhhhhhhhhooooooooooollllllllllllleeeeeeeeesssssssssss!!!!, 3-0 we won it 3 tiiiiiiiiiimes

[SLO_Fila]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BigBrother:

Larsson is good, but he seems to be a stop-gap signing and he'll stay till the end of the season max.

Man U need some new blood up front IMO, and should be going for a Torres or Villa in the summer. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And we never even thought about keeping Larsson past the end of this season.

But we are, some of us, desperate to keep Larsson until the end of the season because unless Saha doesn't hit top form soon we are screwed.

Not to mention the injury worries. Will be back to pre-december where we were praying that Rooney and Saha don't get injured.

[Scatter]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by James07?:

The other version Lille dispatched. Wins at Fulham and Liverpool see us 12 pts clear. League form sparkling. Chelsea just about keeping up. Arsenal hammered in the FA Cup semi. Real Madrid beaten (Ruud misses penalty). 4-0 at the Boo Camp seals the title, with a dead rubber at the Bridge to celebrate this time at Stamford Bridge. The reserves relegate West Ham, a 2-0 half time deficit is turned around at Wembley as Citeh’s 1st trophy for 31 years is snatched away bluuuuuue moon, you started singing too soon…. Athens, scousers, sccchhhhhhhhhooooooooooollllllllllllleeeeeeeeesssssssssss!!!!, 3-0 we won it 3 tiiiiiiiiiimes </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

i think i just orgasmed :*)

[Coldberg]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by James07?:

The end of season ‘Mika’ scenario. 4-5-1 tonight. Rooney does his knee ligaments. 0-1, only a point at Fulham, win against Reading but 0-3 against the Scouse, Lille lose 2-1 at OT with a last minute offside goal, league form continues to stutter, FA Cup defeat on penalties against City in the semi, more dropped points at home, Robbie Fowler consigns us to a league defeat at the boo camp and a 4-0 hammering on the Wednesday at Stamford bridge confirms their title. West Ham then beat us to stay up. Joey Barton slaps in the winner in the Cup Final and Gerrard’s double against Chelsea makes it 6 times for the scouse.

The other version Lille dispatched. Wins at Fulham and Liverpool see us 12 pts clear. League form sparkling. Chelsea just about keeping up. Arsenal hammered in the FA Cup semi. Real Madrid beaten (Ruud misses penalty). 4-0 at the Boo Camp seals the title, with a dead rubber at the Bridge to celebrate this time at Stamford Bridge. The reserves relegate West Ham, a 2-0 half time deficit is turned around at Wembley as Citeh’s 1st trophy for 31 years is snatched away bluuuuuue moon, you started singing too soon…. Athens, scousers, sccchhhhhhhhhooooooooooollllllllllllleeeeeeeeesssssssssss!!!!, 3-0 we won it 3 tiiiiiiiiiimes </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

How will Fowler be consigning us to defeat at the boo camp? He gonna bea special guest referee?

[James07?]

er, he plays for City?

[SLO_Fila]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by James07?:

er, he plays for City? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

He's at Liverpool now ffs