NSteelez Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I'd be pleased if we signed Hargreaves but I am one of those who've always rated him. I'd also be pleased that we're signing British players. We're the only one from Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool that are maintaining a British base to our squad, something that I feel is part of the Man Utd ideal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACou2000 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I dont really care about being British as long as they do the job on the pitch. The only plus side is you'd expect fewer 'settling in' problems with a "domestic" player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alilaw Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 He's clearly canadian as well, no matter what national team he plays for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazz22 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Senna and Hargreaves are completely different players. Senna is more in the Makalele mould while Hargreaves is box-to-box. Putting a leash on him and asking him to sit alongside Carrick would be wasting him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACou2000 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I dunno if Hargs is really box to box. He's a very deep player. But just more "all action" style than a Carrick. Which is why they could complement each other very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark g Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Gazz22: Senna and Hargreaves are completely different players. Senna is more in the Makalele mould while Hargreaves is box-to-box. Putting a leash on him and asking him to sit alongside Carrick would be wasting him. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> The whole point is that Hargreaves wouldn't need to sit, as Carrick does that. They'd basically be the opposite of Keane and Scholes in the later years. Carrick would be the more creative player, but from deep, whereas Hargreaves would be the more destructive player, but with licence to get all over the pitch to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACou2000 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I think Carrick could easily push up a bit and actually add more to his game in doing so. He's good enough on the ball to see and play through balls from around and outside the area as well as generally being in the latter stages of moves rather than necessarily always picking it up from the back 4 and finding a winger with a raking pass Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alilaw Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I should really stop myself getting so giddy. OH has definately moved above Senna in my imaginery midfield pecking order, and I'm going to be very gutted when we inevitably fail to land him. I'm sure we'd all of course still love to see Mascherano coming, if only because Mark spells Hargreaves right on an annoyingly consistent basis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACou2000 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 who spells Hargreaves wrong ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Ali, I was literally bouncing around work, then I get told it's from a magazine but then it turns out he wants to leave. Mon Hargreaves I <3 ebay, got the new shirt with Solskjaer 20 on the back for 30 notes ebay>>>>* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alilaw Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ACou2000: who spells Hargreaves wrong ffs </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I started doing a search to see if you've ever spelt Hargreaves wrong, but then realised that searching for postings from you containing the word 'Hargreaves' probably wasn't going to work in this respect :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BBB: Ali, I was literally bouncing around work, then I get told it's from a magazine but then it turns out he wants to leave. Mon Hargreaves I <3 ebay, got the new shirt with Solskjaer 20 on the back for 30 notes ebay>>>>* </div></BLOCKQUOTE> was that what you wanted the money for earlier? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 no you dolt, you know why, that ****** left me £50 down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> OWEN HARGREAVES will sign for Manchester United today. The England midfielder is set to be unveiled at Old Trafford after agreeing a dream £13million move. Hargreaves, 25, got his wish after revealing United manager Alex Ferguson had made him an offer he could not refuse. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 HARGREAVES ON THIS PAGE PLEASE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rb Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">£13m Owen signs for Utd By JOHN KAY OWEN HARGREAVES will sign for Manchester United today. The England midfielder is set to be unveiled at Old Trafford after agreeing a dream £13million move. Hargreaves, 25, got his wish after revealing United manager Alex Ferguson had made him an offer he could not refuse. And the Canadian-born star pleaded with his club to agree a deal and allow him to move to Old Trafford. Hargreaves, who starred in last night’s 4-0 win over Greece, said: “The offer from Manchester United is fantastic. “Particularly as an England player because you never know if such an opportunity will arise again.†Bundesliga champions Bayern Munich insisted they did not want to lose Hargreaves and initially demanded £17million while United only offered £12m. But once the player signalled his intentions to leave, the two clubs thrashed out a compromise figure. Hargreaves is the defensive midfielder Fergie has been searching for. The United boss switched his attentions to the England star after his World Cup heroics when Hargreaves was the only one of Sven Goran Eriksson’s squad to emerge from the finals with any credit. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Guess the paper.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 It was at t'bottom of page 130 mate. It's OBVIOUS which paper it's FROM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rb Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Haha, I wasn't making out it wasnt obvious You only posted a snippet from it though no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 ah toúche Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
omni_paul Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">initially demanded £17million while United only offered £12m. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> That's not bad negotiating if you've got him for 13 then. Only going up 1m when I'd have expected you to go up at least 3 or 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonch19 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 hargreaves and carrick for £30m plus = bad business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfc15 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 13m is way too much for Hargreaves. It really is ridiculous that, prior to the World Cup, almost every England fan disliked Hargreaves, yet paying 13m is now considered acceptable. He played well for 3/4 games but he still has limited abilities. One minute he's unbelievably awful and is completely useless and the next minute, all Man U fans are urging Fergie to sign him. He's a decent player but he's worth 8.5m tops. <pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> </pre> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Um not every England fan ffs, just the clueless ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by wfc15: 13m is way too much for Hargreaves. It really is ridiculous that, prior to the World Cup, almost every England fan disliked Hargreaves, yet paying 13m is now considered acceptable. He played well for 3/4 games but he still has limited abilities. One minute he's unbelievably awful and is completely useless and the next minute, all Man U fans are urging Fergie to sign him. He's a decent player but he's worth 8.5m tops. <pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> </pre> </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Played class for Bayern, alot of people have said that, people who do see him week in week out. so stfu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by wfc15: 13m is way too much for Hargreaves. It really is ridiculous that, prior to the World Cup, almost every England fan disliked Hargreaves, yet paying 13m is now considered acceptable. He played well for 3/4 games but he still has limited abilities. One minute he's unbelievably awful and is completely useless and the next minute, all Man U fans are urging Fergie to sign him. He's a decent player but he's worth 8.5m tops. <pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> </pre> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>when you take into account the fact that your average English fan can't manage the day-to-day minutiae of life, I'd say that Manchester United have got themselves a bargain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 iirc some United fans on here wanted Hargreaves before the WC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooders86 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 If we sign Hargreaves im guessing it's likely we'll be playing a 4-5-1 formation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick OGS20 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Haha, love the way this guy plucks £8.5m out of the air as a reasonable price Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 VDS Neville-----Rio-----Brown-----Heinze Carrick----Hargreaves Scholes Ronaldo---------Rooney Saha something like that would rule, obviously not as shitttily done as that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooders86 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Giggs basically finished then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 That's a pretty awesome eleven tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooders86 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Well I guess some/most would say he's been finished for a couple of seasons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Dan, are you arguing with yourself? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I'm sure me and Dan had "beef" early on in my OTF posting. or am I dreaming? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazz22 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I still think we should play a flexible 4-4-2 like the end of last season. The big question is how do we get Scholes into that system? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooders86 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ajw10: Dan, are you arguing with yourself? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I was answering my own question. Or was I? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooders86 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BBB: I'm sure me and Dan had "beef" early on in my OTF posting. or am I dreaming? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Who'd have "beef" with me? Im such a loveable fella Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I'm probably dreaming it I do remember having you on my MSN then, never believed you were a red, have you only just discovered our wonderful thread then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooders86 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Yeh I missed the 500 + page threads every season .. Nah, just never really posted in here, just lurked around taking it all in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Now you've stepped into the deep end, good man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooders86 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 And yes, I did have your MSN (Seems as though i blocked you for some reason or other..) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick OGS20 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Entirely understandable really Dan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 haha, sod off Nick. aw man, I deleted you so it's all good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooders86 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I demand ot know why you deleted me!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I never talked to you presumably, I want to know why you blocked me. We didn't have beef then but by GAWD we do now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 'mon Owen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
omni_paul Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Hargreaves easily worth 13 considering some of the other deals floating around this off season, including Carrick for 18. Hargreaves > Carrick imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Longer Bling Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 hargreaves not happening Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Longer Bling Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 oh and fao bbb. whats the name of the building youre living in now? im looking to move to the quays area and were looking at quay 5 which is classed as ordsall and a few minutes from the exchange quay metro, near kfc/harry ramsdens etc. not sure what the areas like but i imagine pretty dodgy as iirc paul massey does all the security round there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ajw10: iirc some United fans on here wanted Hargreaves before the WC. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Me and PJ basically started the rumour mill about a Carrick/Hargreaves midfield partnership, before the world cup. What players do you want next lads? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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