Back of the Internet Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 High-tempo tactic designed to produce clear-cut-chances. The absence of a striker causes the opposition centre-backs to push up and mark the attacking midfielders, so as not to give them space to turn. This leaves a lot of space in behind. Your AMs will often find themselves 3vs2 in attack, resulting in a goalscoring opportunity. Should the opposition full-backs commit themselves to come inside and help, a lot of space is opened up for your full-backs to shoot (my second choice left-back scored 3 hat-tricks last season - shoots with power is a useful PPM). http://www.gamefront.com/files/24156786/BOTI_4_3_3_0_zip http://www.mediafire.com/download/dzrvraficz1h8ec/BOTI_4-3-3-0.zip Faster AMs play as shadow strikers, more creative AM as trequartista. I've been using this in the lower leagues and had a couple of 8-0 scorelines, will be interesting to hear how it works out in the top flight. It will obviously become more effective once your players are fully trained in the formation, and I tend to leave my players working on attacking movement. Ensure that your best header is playing in the left CB position (combination of Height, Jumping, Heading, Aggression and Bravery) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manfred Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 the link is broken, could you please upload to other site? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juvito2k Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Coul you please reupload in another website gamefront doesnt work in my country Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back of the Internet Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 Here you go: http://www.mediafire.com/download/dzrvraficz1h8ec/BOTI_4-3-3-0.zip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juvito2k Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back of the Internet Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 Hmm may have just deleted the first comment... Here it is again: http://www.mediafire.com/download/dzrvraficz1h8ec/BOTI_4-3-3-0.zip http://www.gamefront.com/files/24156786/BOTI_4_3_3_0_zip This high tempo tactic is designed to create a large number of clear-cut-chances. The absence of a striker causes the opposition defence to push up, or risk giving your AMs chance to turn. This creates a lot of space in behind. Your attacking midfielders will often find themselves 3v2 in attack. Should the opposition full-backs come narrower to help the centre backs, room will be created for your own full-backs to attack (Last season my second choice left-back scored three hat-tricks) I've been using it in the lower leagues with some success: and some very high scores (a few 8-0 scorelines) As with all tactics, it will work best once your whole team is fully trained in the formation, and I tend to leave the training on attacking movement once this is achieved. I've scored a fair few from corners too, just make sure your best heading CB (Height, Jumping, Heading, Aggression, Bravery) is in the left slot. It will be interesting to see how it works for people in the top leagues, and if you're worried about finding teams with AMCs... (Shadow strikers in lower case, Trequartistas in CAPS) Man U: Rooney MATA Kagawa Chelsea: Hazard OSCAR Willian Liverpool: Suarez COUTINHO Sterling Arsenal and Tottenham are mostly AMCs anyway... Man City: Aguero SILVA Nasri The only thing I would say, is that it's not a possession orientated or high pressure system, so if you're chasing the game with 10 minutes left, you might not get the ball back... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dodgson Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Would be interested to see how this gets on with better teams! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joethequin Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Will give this a try with my Chelsea save in the first season! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dodgson Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I'm going to plug this in my Newcastle save, 4th season - just to see how things to. Do you use any OI? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back of the Internet Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 Nope, I don't use opposition instructions, and I let the assistant take the team talks. Sometimes if the opposition full-backs are getting crosses in, I'll set my shadow strikers to man mark them, but the lower league teams don't seem to get full-backs forward too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCFC Gee Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I'm now testing this with my Norwich team, well into the game and one of the top teams so will let you know how it goes with top teams, early signs are good, 4 wins our of 4 despite not knowing tactics etc yet and some players being trained into new postions, noticed we don't always have most shots or have most of the ball but still seem to win Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back of the Internet Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 Just gave it a go with Chelsea, had a very average pre-season with 1-0 and 2-0 wins (with 4 or 5 clear cut chances a game). As soon as the Premier League starts, win against Liverpool 4-0 (with John Terry and Luiz injured) Stats look pretty good The players definitely needed some time to adapt. I don't think they appreciated me setting my past experience to 'Sunday League Footballer' either Next up, City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dodgson Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Thanks! Are you going to release some recommended attributes for the positions? What do you use for training? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCFC Gee Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 this is hows it's gone so far, played 8, won 7 and drawn 1 against a team i may have lost to normally, remember i have multiple players still learning new postions to fit in with tactic and we're still not fluid with the tactic yet so it's pretty impressive so far, will update again at the end of the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 i put it on fm-base hope you dont mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
golgepapaz Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 This is a powerful tactic alas it suffers from the strikers' let's try to decapitate the goalie with long shots from outside the penalty area syndrome post 14.3. I will try to teach the "likes the round the keeper" ppm but I don't think it will make a difference to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back of the Internet Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 Yeah, my two highest scorers have that ppm. I would use 'work ball into the box' but a lot of my goals come from long-shots, especially from the full-backs. I'll edit it soon to recommend traits and attributes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
golgepapaz Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Work ball into box instruction works like rather looking for a pass instead of taking a long shot if available. Since the SS is generally the furthest player he'd take the shot whether the instruction is set or not. And yes, long shots from the side have higher conversion rates than the shots from front from my experience. I wonder if inverse footed CWB will have a higher conversion rate. I'll take your word for the ppm and try with it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dodgson Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Would be interested what you recommend for the 2 Support Strikers and the Treq - I'm finding it hard to work out if they should be attacking midfielders, wingers or strikers - just an idea of what stats to look for would be great! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back of the Internet Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 My shadow strikers are pretty much poachers (pace, acceleration, finishing composure) although they need to be able to pass as well. Have a look at the shadow striker role in the highlight attributes for role part of training and that pretty much covers it (strangely tackling is one of those attributes). For trequartista, I use a mix of poacher and advanced playmaker. The trequartista should still get through on goal, but it is he who looks to find space and receive the ball from your defence and play killer balls. Acceleration, passing, off the ball, anticipation, creativity, composure, finishing, technique. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dodgson Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Thanks mate - appreciated! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCFC Gee Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 After a great start as mentioned above i then went on to lose 4 of the next 5 games, so think the opposition may have worked out the system and countered it, will see how things go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back of the Internet Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 It's worked for 3 seasons in a row for me, but I've played Skrill South, Premier and League 2, so I guess you'll be up against cleverer managers than me. Are the opposition full-backs causing your trouble with crosses? When I've come up against bigger sides, the full-backs and wingers double team my wing-back (wing back closes down full-back in possession, allows winger to run down the line unmarked). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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