tomtuck01 2 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Tactics will be fine if they are built on sound logic. It was the same last year and changes weren't needed with each patch. To claim that to be the case is quite preposterus in all honesty. Link to post Share on other sites
Colinzink 11 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Tactics will be fine if they are built on sound logic. It was the same last year and changes weren't needed with each patch. To claim that to be the case is quite preposterus in all honesty. Perhaps hyperbole on my part, but I do recall having spent a lot more attention to it last year than in previous years. Maybe I am just a tactical dinosaur and need to get with the times. Link to post Share on other sites
scott MUFC 359 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Papadopolous doesnt cost any more then £15.5m Finishing does need work, Tactics havn't needed changing, but then it depends on how you play and what they correct in patches if they deside to change anything major, which at this stage they wont, latest patch actually made mine better . Link to post Share on other sites
tomtuck01 2 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Todays update won't have done anything to the ME to aid your finishing. It was only to clear up a crash that alot of people, myself including, were having. Link to post Share on other sites
Daverea 10 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Started a game as Man Utd today - seem to have gone the same route as a lot of you. 4-2-3-1 slow build up and short passing. Sold Anderson, Cleverly and Hernandez and loaned out many players. Brought in Ward-Prowse and Yarmolenko. Tried to bring in Shaw, but so far the asking price has just been too much. May try again in January, though I'm more than happy to let Evra see the year out as first choice. Also tried to offload Young too but couldn't get any interest in him, but he's turned out to be my best player by some way with 8.28 - 4 goals 2 assists and 2 MoM in 4 games from a AML W:S role. Will regret getting Yarmolenko if Young keeps this up! Have a 100% competitive record so far, but haven't played any tough opponents. Still, pleased with the start. Couple of questions. Have you guys been getting goals out of RVP in a lone ST role? If so how have you been playing him? How on earth do you tutor people?!?! I can't find it anywhere, only been able to use coaches suggestions in the fortnightly meetings. Link to post Share on other sites
Welbeck19 103 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Click on the player profile of the player you want to do the tutoring then click on talk to player. Link to post Share on other sites
Daverea 10 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Click on the player profile of the player you want to do the tutoring then click on talk to player. Aha I just found it. The Talk To Player button doesn't exist any more, but I finally noticed Private Chat in the Overview dropdown. Typical I'd find it as soon as I asked -_- Link to post Share on other sites
scott MUFC 359 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 there is also a request tutoring button in the training window. Reached December 31st. got battered by everton and somehow won 2-0, Arsneal gone from 3 points behind to 20 within that month, opening up an allmighty scramble from 2nd to 8th and Liverpool STILL in bottom 3 results and scorers Link to post Share on other sites
Falahk 35 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Todays update won't have done anything to the ME to aid your finishing. It was only to clear up a crash that alot of people, myself including, were having.they also seam to have fixed the inbox bug that arrived with the update that came before this one Link to post Share on other sites
tottivillarossi 0 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 there is also a request tutoring button in the training window.Reached December 31st. got battered by everton and somehow won 2-0, Arsneal gone from 3 points behind to 20 within that month, opening up an allmighty scramble from 2nd to 8th and Liverpool STILL in bottom 3 I'm a few points better off than you. You need to up your game Link to post Share on other sites
luka_zg 157 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 How does Nick Powell look for everybody? He is developing quite rapidly on my game, and I haven't really give him that much playing time, but he took Cleverly's spot in my rotations, looks like he is going to be a class player. Also, looks like Cleverly will be sold in the summer, with Powell making such progress and adition of Lucas Romero from Ajax making Tom surplus. Zaha too is a transfer list candidate, I'm considering giving Januzaj the AMR spot. With Kagawa,Vitinho and Januzaj ,I hope to make them fluid and roaming behind striker..not sure how to do it but it is tactical idea I'd love to make work Link to post Share on other sites
tottivillarossi 0 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Yeah, I'm considering offloading Cleverley and replacing him with Powell once he comes back from his loan. Cleverley could easily fetch £15m! Then I could set Carrick as Powell's tutor, and hopefully he should improve quite a lot. Link to post Share on other sites
abhid30007 14 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 cleverly is actually a good rotation option and a must pick for derby matches Link to post Share on other sites
tomtuck01 2 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Yeah, I'm considering offloading Cleverley and replacing him with Powell once he comes back from his loan. Cleverley could easily fetch £15m! Then I could set Carrick as Powell's tutor, and hopefully he should improve quite a lot. Players don't directly improve simply by being tutored. Link to post Share on other sites
tottivillarossi 0 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I think Tom may have heard me talking about him... Link to post Share on other sites
20leGend99 0 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Tom's clinging to his Man Utd future on my game. He's got these two lads in direct competition: Link to post Share on other sites
gareth250480 0 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Tom Cleverly can be sold at the end of 1st season for a lot of money. I got rid of him for about £25-£30m to PSG after the 1st season. i cant remember exact amount as at work but it was high and they were chasing him throughout most of the 1st season and at that price i had to get rid of him. Link to post Share on other sites
tottivillarossi 0 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Players don't directly improve simply by being tutored. I know, but it will improve his professionalism and mental/hidden stats. Just got knocked out of the League Cup in the semis by Man City. Both legs finished 0-0, and we went out on penalties. Link to post Share on other sites
tomtuck01 2 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I know, but it will improve his professionalism and mental/hidden stats. Yeah was just saying as the post I replied to suggested otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites
Devvy06 0 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Is anyone else having problems with Carrick? I am trying to get him to tutor Jones, but on two occasions he has rejected me. Now personally, i see no reason why he wouldnt do it tbh.... Or suggest an alternative person to Tutor Jones, my other thought might be Rio Link to post Share on other sites
Nokturno 10 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Is anyone else having problems with Carrick?I am trying to get him to tutor Jones, but on two occasions he has rejected me. Now personally, i see no reason why he wouldnt do it tbh.... Or suggest an alternative person to Tutor Jones, my other thought might be Rio Rio would be good because Jones will be a world class ball-playing defender Link to post Share on other sites
tottivillarossi 0 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Is anyone else having problems with Carrick?I am trying to get him to tutor Jones, but on two occasions he has rejected me. Now personally, i see no reason why he wouldnt do it tbh.... Or suggest an alternative person to Tutor Jones, my other thought might be Rio Carrick tutored Kovacic for me with no problems. Personally, I've never felt the need to tutor Jones. His determination and professionalism are already great. Link to post Share on other sites
Devvy06 0 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Rio would be good because Jones will be a world class ball-playing defender Rio said yes!!! I know Jones has good determination and professionalism, i just want to see if there is a way to kinda give him the extra push, just to make sure. Might try get Rooney to tutor Welbeck too Link to post Share on other sites
tottivillarossi 0 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Just tried to get Nemanja to tutor Smalling, and he said he doesn't get on with Chris! Link to post Share on other sites
reillyg 10 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 If you get a player to be tutored by a player with lower determination I've found that the younger player's determination will fall and I think Rio has a lower determination than Jones. Link to post Share on other sites
tomtuck01 2 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 If you get a player to be tutored by a player with lower determination I've found that the younger player's determination will fall and I think Rio has a lower determination than Jones. And what is wrong with a players "Determination" falling? Why do you seem to think that is important? Link to post Share on other sites
Devvy06 0 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Speaking of Jones.... What position do you all play him in? Just had a game against Leverkusen and he was MOTM playing as a DMC Link to post Share on other sites
reillyg 10 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 And what is wrong with a players "Determination" falling? Why do you seem to think that is important? Just a heads up to those who may not know. Not sure why you seem have to taken issue with this. Link to post Share on other sites
tomtuck01 2 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Just a heads up to those who may not know. Not sure why you seem have to taken issue with this. I haven't. I am simply asking you what makes you think it is important. Link to post Share on other sites
reillyg 10 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I haven't. I am simply asking you what makes you think it is important. I didn't say it was important. Link to post Share on other sites
tomtuck01 2 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I didn't say it was important. So why highlight the fact that it can decrease? Seems an odd thing to do. Link to post Share on other sites
reillyg 10 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 So why highlight the fact that it can decrease? Seems an odd thing to do. Well I've seen people before that have disappointed that their chosen tutor has caused a decrease in a player's determination, so thought I'd mention it in case some people were not aware of this. Just trying to help. Link to post Share on other sites
Verby 35 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Speaking of Jones.... What position do you all play him in?Just had a game against Leverkusen and he was MOTM playing as a DMC Play him as MC as a BWM Defend and then drop him back to DM as a BWM for certain away games Link to post Share on other sites
tomtuck01 2 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Well I've seen people before that have disappointed that their chosen tutor has caused a decrease in a player's determination, so thought I'd mention it in case some people were not aware of this. Just trying to help. I wasn't saying you weren't trying to help. It was just a genuine question as I know alot of people have this ridiculus idea that "Determination" is some hugely important attribute. Link to post Share on other sites
reillyg 10 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I wasn't saying you weren't trying to help. It was just a genuine question as I know alot of people have this ridiculus idea that "Determination" is some hugely important attribute. I'm aware it is not as important as some people believed, especially in terms of player development. Link to post Share on other sites
Fabio MVP 18 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Determination is one of the most important attributes if not the most important. I'd never tutor a player if his tutro has less Determintaion then the tutee (spelling?) does. Link to post Share on other sites
tomtuck01 2 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Determination is one of the most important attributes if not the most important. I'd never tutor a player if his tutro has less Determintaion then the tutee (spelling?) does. Err, no it's not. Really, it's no more important than any other attribute. Imagine you have two players. Player A has "Decisions" of 17 and "Determination" of 11. Player B is the other way around. You'd have to be a lunatic to choose Player B. Link to post Share on other sites
tottivillarossi 0 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I haven't. I am simply asking you what makes you think it is important. Determination is an incredibly important attribute. Link to post Share on other sites
Fabio MVP 18 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 As I already said, it is. It's even says so in in-game Hint & Tips. It says so in research guidelines IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites
Verby 35 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Err, no it's not. Really, it's no more important than any other attribute.Imagine you have two players. Player A has "Decisions" of 17 and "Determination" of 11. Player B is the other way around. You'd have to be a lunatic to choose Player B. Hmmm how sure are you with that? I've always been led to believe (from untold posts on the forums) that Dertimation is the most important stat on determining wether a player fufills his potential. And I would actually pick Player B, assuming that hes a youth player with bags of potential Link to post Share on other sites
tottivillarossi 0 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Hmmm how sure are you with that? I've always been led to believe (from untold posts on the forums) that Dertimation is the most important stat on determining wether a player fufills his potential.And I would actually pick Player B, assuming that hes a youth player with bags of potential I've always thought Professionalism is the most important attribute when it comes to training. Link to post Share on other sites
Verby 35 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I've always thought Professionalism is the most important attribute when it comes to training. Well thats a hidden attribute Link to post Share on other sites
reillyg 10 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Well thats a hidden attribute It is often the case that if determination is high then professionalism is high too, which makes determination a useful guide. Link to post Share on other sites
tomtuck01 2 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Determination is an incredibly important attribute. As I already said, it is. It's even says so in in-game Hint & Tips. It says so in research guidelines IIRC. Hmmm how sure are you with that? I've always been led to believe (from untold posts on the forums) that Dertimation is the most important stat on determining wether a player fufills his potential. You're all so wrong. Just tell me, why is "Determination" so important? What does it offer a striker for instance? Is it more important than "Finishing", "Composure", "Decisions", or "Off The Ball"? Please, enlighten me. And I would actually pick Player B, assuming that hes a youth player with bags of potential You sir, are a lunatic. Link to post Share on other sites
Cleon 1,776 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Determination is one of the most important attributes if not the most important. I'd never tutor a player if his tutro has less Determintaion then the tutee (spelling?) does. Its not, it really isn't. Link to post Share on other sites
Verby 35 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 You're all so wrong. Just tell me, why is "Determination" so important? What does it offer a striker for instance? Is it more important than "Finishing", "Composure", "Decisions", or "Off The Ball"? Please, enlighten me. You sir, are a lunatic. I was only refering to say for example a 16 year old player, hes more likely to reach his full potential IF his determination is high. Thats what i've always followed since I can remember. Link to post Share on other sites
Nokturno 10 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Quick tip. The top option on tutoring will increase his ability a bit in the areas the tutor is good in, maybe he picks up some PPM's too. With the mentals and determination matching/increasing to the tutor's. that is true, on the "Mentoring off the pitch" option, where the guy being tutored will try and improve mentally, at least thats how i look at it. Young/bad mentals? "mentor off the pitch" around 20 with good mentals? "learn from, improve game" hasn't failed me yet Link to post Share on other sites
tomtuck01 2 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I was only refering to say for example a 16 year old player, hes more likely to reach his full potential IF his determination is high. Thats what i've always followed since I can remember. No he's not. Quick tip. The top option on tutoring will increase his ability a bit in the areas the tutor is good in, maybe he picks up some PPM's too.With the mentals and determination matching/increasing to the tutor's. that is true, on the "Mentoring off the pitch" option, where the guy being tutored will try and improve mentally, at least thats how i look at it. Young/bad mentals? "mentor off the pitch" around 20 with good mentals? "learn from, improve game" hasn't failed me yet See, you're wrong too; Option 1 will transfer personality traits and also bring in the possibility of PPM transfers. Option 2 will transfer only personality traits. Link to post Share on other sites
AaronRedDevil 23 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 @Cleon: Could you elaborate on why Determination it isn't such an important attribute? I always thought it is key to how quickly a player can fulfill their potential. Also thought it determines how they react to going behind in a game. Link to post Share on other sites
Verby 35 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 No he's not.See, you're wrong too; Option 1 will transfer personality traits and also bring in the possibility of PPM transfers. Option 2 will transfer only personality traits. I guess the dozens of forum posts i've read are wrong then, I have definitly read that numerous times from reliable sources on this forum Link to post Share on other sites
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