Hagi_07 Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Slightly off topic but still 4-4-2 related. If you use the TC to set up a standard 4-4-2 it puts the right sided striker on DLF and the right sided centre mid as a support/automatic. Normally I'd look to have the the right or left striker, MC and DC all deeper than the opposit side to break lines and not have people running into the same space. Found it strange the TC would suggest the opposite in this case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 Do you have problems with the "fake nine" - the player in the AMC slot (in 3 man midfield setups, like 4-4-1-1 and 4-2-3-1 etc ) and that the DLP sometimes gets robbed of the ball and then the opposition gets a counter attack situation? these are my biggest problems. It might be so that this is connected to the level of quality of the players but i'm forced to pull back the DLF to man mark the oppositions most defensive midfielder so that the DLP or the AP do not run at him and leave a hole behind. That my DLP sometimes gets robbed of the ball i have not figured out how to prevent. I find that the "fake nine" does at times have a fair bit of space, but sometimes you just have to live with little deficiencies in a tactic. Either that, or you have to adapt a new set-up to deal with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isignedupfornorealreason Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Hmm necro'ing this cos it's a really good read. I usually run with a 4-4-2, because I find a 4-2-2-2 (AM Wingers) is asking for trouble in Fm13. The only difference in my set up is I tend to do AP/S instead of AP/A. Mainly because I leave both wingers on W/A. I am curious though, when do you use 'control'? Is it just to up the possession when you're at home and shading it at 55%? Or is it for when you already have 60+% of possession? For me personally, if my tactic garners me 60-70% possession, I don't see the need to change the style. But still, I'm curious all the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted October 12, 2013 Author Share Posted October 12, 2013 It's just when I don't think the opposition is offering, (going to offer), much going forward. It ups the defensive line and as you point out, ensures we have more of the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyc31 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Great thread Tom! I've enjoyed success with a 4-4-2 in the past and, having recently found a earth shattering good Advance Forward regen, will be looking to move back towards this next season. One thing i do find interesting with your tactic is how you got the DLP(D) and the AP(A) working together as, when i've tried this, i usually find that when the DLP wins the ball, the AP has made his run leaving the DLP isolated. Is that a regular occurrence for you? Or, do the shouts you mentioned counteract that? Once again, seriously great thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 allyc31 Well, if you take a close look at the screenshots in the first couple of posts, you will see that the two central midfielders don't just stay together. Sure, they keep their shape when we defend, but they do of course split when we attack, and that's what is meant to happen. The fact that a bit of a gap is left for the opposition to exploit on the counter is just part of the risk and reward of any realistic system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyc31 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Cheers tomtuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunwwfc Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 How successful could you see this being in FM14 tomtuck01? I found it a great success in 13 you see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 How successful could you see this being in FM14 tomtuck01?I found it a great success in 13 you see. Unless there's any big changes to the ME, I imagine it should be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isignedupfornorealreason Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 How successful could you see this being in FM14 tomtuck01?I found it a great success in 13 you see. Can confirm there's no real difficulties with the formation or set up in Fm14 either TomTuck's specific method or variations of it. I'd assume shorter, press more, drill cross, more cf and more roaming would be the standard tactical shouts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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