Davey Boy Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 It seems to have everything, a player in every position and looks nice and tidy You have your four man defence, a defensive midfielder covering your back four, a left or right sided midfielder and a man in the middle be it a ball winner or deep/lying midfielder, a left or right inside forward or winger, an attacking midfielder or a treq or an advanced playmaker with a poacher or target man up front. Anyone use this formation and how are you getting on with it? Im going to play this season (2nd) with this more often than not i think and see how i get on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1ck Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 How did you do in your first season with it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Boy Posted December 2, 2012 Author Share Posted December 2, 2012 I didn't use that formation in my first season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwfan Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 It seems to have everything, a player in every position and looks nice and tidy You have your four man defence, a defensive midfielder covering your back four, a left or right sided midfielder and a man in the middle be it a ball winner or deep/lying midfielder, a left or right inside forward or winger, an attacking midfielder or a treq or an advanced playmaker with a poacher or target man up front. Anyone use this formation and how are you getting on with it? Im going to play this season (2nd) with this more often than not i think and see how i get on. The theory behind any 4-2-3-1 relates to the effectiveness it has in covering the whole pitch. This is possibly the most efficient variant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucatonix Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 The theory behind any 4-2-3-1 relates to the effectiveness it has in covering the whole pitch. This is possibly the most efficient variant. Whilst this version does perhaps cover the pitch well, it's asymetric shape is also a weakness. There are still gaps for which the opposition can exploit just they are in more specialised positions: namely behind the AMC and behind the AML. If these two gaps can be exploited then you will be in trouble. However, it is generally fairly hard to exploit these gaps without the correct players and tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maarten-85 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I would probably experiment with changing the right full back's duty to attack and changing the lone striker to support (Falcoa would probably be suited perfectly for a complete forward or a target man). This way I think you could link up the play better both between defense and midfield and between midfield and attack. Setting the forward to support could possibly result in some nice holes opening up for your AM and IF. Also I've been reading Cleon's threads and the idea of making the DMc the playmaker and and the MC the enforcer (especially for offensive sides, since he could, in theory, win the ball back higher up the pitch to launch more counter attacks) is starting to appeal to me. Might toy around with it soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
larxus Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Yup, I've used it on Newcastle, Blyth, and now Tanjong Pagar United FC. Seems to be one of the more consistent formations for FM13. Only weakness seems to be on the right midfielder, who tends to "disappear" no matter how good the person is.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Boy Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 OK an update guys. So i set up how I want my team to play with what i think is a well balanced formation. I want to keep possession, play nice short passes and press the opposion more maybe a bit like Barca play nice football and win the ball back as early as possible a few screenies So far losing three league games and they were against Man City, Arsenal and Chelsea but i have to say using the above tactics was WRONG against these teams it wasn't until i changed a few things against Chelsea, like play attacking and fluid, time wasting rarely and longer passing, get the ball forward and pass into space and ticked counter attack i got more joy. Now thats clearly not to say my tactic isn't working it's doing a decent job (as the screenies will show) but will play more attacking against the "bigger" teams as i don't think my team are good enough to "control" a match against the Chelsea's and company. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overmars Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 I would probably experiment with changing the right full back's duty to attack and changing the lone striker to support (Falcoa would probably be suited perfectly for a complete forward or a target man). This way I think you could link up the play better both between defense and midfield and between midfield and attack. Setting the forward to support could possibly result in some nice holes opening up for your AM and IF. I have these exact settings, and it seems to work well. I have slower strikers with better playmaking ability than goal scoring ability, so that's another reason I put them on support. My AMC and IF have good acceleration, which seems to be key in this setup where they receive key passes from the DLF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert the Spud Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 I don't like it because I feel you have to have very particular players to utilise for the whole season, meaning it's not interchangeable for me as someone who likes to swap IF's during the game. However, could you not just get the same effect by using the individual player instructions? I.e- set the AMR to a DW/Defensive? Or the CMR to CM/D in a 4-2-3-1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimisv Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 i used this formation in fm 12 with Liverpool,Gerrard was AMAZING as AMC ATT and the gameplay was really good too, try your left back as wing back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Boy Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 Another update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmFutbolManager Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 I tried and failed. But I was playing with a weak team. I found it to be weak defensively for me and I didn't have the cover I wanted. But that could have been down to my tactics and the fact I'm a team that aims for mid-table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Boy Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 I tried and failed. But I was playing with a weak team. I found it to be weak defensively for me and I didn't have the cover I wanted. But that could have been down to my tactics and the fact I'm a team that aims for mid-table. Keep in mind although i start out with using control, balanced, passing style shorter, more expressive, press more, more aggressive, zonal marking (apart from my two centerbacks), float crosses and stick to position. If i am controlling the game put still unable to score or losing i turn it up a notch to the following. attcking, fluid, passing style longer, play wider, quicker, push up and pass into space and counter attack. or as you say it could just be the gulf in quality between the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Boy Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 more updates here... http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/320526-FM13-Liverpool-F.C-Thread-The-future-s-so-bright-you-have-to-wear-sunglasses?p=8359702&posted=1#post8359702 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Boy Posted December 8, 2012 Author Share Posted December 8, 2012 And the league was won on goal difference. Four trophies in all. Mods i suppose you can close this thread as it doesn't seem to be helping anyone else. Ta Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McAvennie Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 I downloaded a classic version of this formation a couple of years back and tried it for a Serie A save I was mucking about with. It had similar issues defensively, but was good fun. This thread has inspired me to try it again in my next save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlesgaKillie Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 A 3-2-1-2-2 is an effective way of covering the pitch I have found. Lined up as GK, DR, DRC, DL, DMLC, ML, MRC, AMR, AMLC, FWL, FCR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Boy Posted December 16, 2012 Author Share Posted December 16, 2012 Do i want my attacking wingers attacking from deep? ive not had the best 3rd season im afraid and was wondering should i want my attacking winger and attacking or supporting winger/wide midfielder attacking from deep? the screenie of my formation is above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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