Whykonen Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I managed to get Kapellen, in Belgium, from 3rd division to second and won there to get promoted to pro league for next season. Financial status was ok, though we had a small debt of around 500K. Now the chief financial officer decided to allow investment in undersoil heating. That is about 7 million, now i have a huge debt! Situation: - High chance of getting "Under administration" - Takeover talks: Transfer embargo - Promotion to Pro League: Will be tough season. - Jumping ship: Not working at decent level (second level in higher profile countries) - Confidence: Untouchable, so I hope I can survive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quacky Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 This exact same thing happened to me with the same club. The amount of money for undersoil heating was just so much bigger than any source of income, was quite impossible to even service the debt each month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 It might be worth making a back up save now. That way, if you struggle next season because of the transfer embargo (and maybe a points deduction) then you can reload this save, resign, and look for jobs. I was once working at a similar level and got offered a job in the Argentinian Premier Division, so there is a chance of a decent offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whykonen Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 Well I'll see how it works out. I suppose this game only should bridge the gap for me to FM 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo1 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Is it a requirement of the league you've joined to have undersoil heating? May be why you both have had the same issue with the same club once promoted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whykonen Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 It does not say so, it did when there was a requirement in second league for more seated places in stadium. Update: - Takeover completed, I survived. - Didn't get any new players, I am spending 17K/week with wage limit of 12K, but I really can't and won't get rid of guys. Small squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whykonen Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 Found out it is a requirement: http://www.nieuwsblad.be/sportwereld/cnt/PH3LV7S1 It's about the ridiculous costs: "King Football doesn't bow for King winter (saying). In order for the games of next weekend to continue, clubs splash 50.000 euro on heating costs. This is similar to the yearly use of 30 families." "Pro league had two reasons to make undersoil-heating mandatory: To guarantee the quality of prof. football in winter and the fixture list is to congested to allow shifting." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whykonen Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 Even more shocking: The cost is €300K to €500K to get undersoil-heating. In FM 12 this is 7 million!!! Ridiculous. Source: http://lib.ugent.be/fulltxt/RUG01/001/459/836/RUG01-001459836_2011_0001_AC.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdpoo Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 It could be worse ..Does it really cost this much? I haven't had a single postponement in 5 years either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whykonen Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 Wow! Is it also that they do more then soil-heating for you? In my facilities screen it shows they also add around 4000 seats. (And make it an all-seater) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdpoo Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Hey, it isn't my screenshot, but if they are also expanding the capacity, the costs may add up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whykonen Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 Well, played the first half of the season pretty well, in 10th position in the league. Now I got hired by AA Gent, who should be top 3 but were only in 8th. Over 1 million transfer budget and 10 times as much wage budget, 125k. 3 year contract Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
estoo Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I got Rangers back into the SPL, after 1 season they decide to upgrade their training facilities at a cost of £12.5 million. Just as well we've got the administrators on speed dial. Back to bankruptcy and div3 we go! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC_Jordi Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Wow! Is it also that they do more then soil-heating for you? In my facilities screen it shows they also add around 4000 seats. (And make it an all-seater) Yeah I had that issue in FM12. Got a message saying my undersoil heating was being installed at a cost of £20m or something. Turns out 16,000 seats were being added too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
x42bn6 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I'd note that "debt" is meaningless. Walmart has debt in the billions, but it operates just fine, because it can pay back that debt. Debt is only a problem if you cannot repay it. What is your bank balance and how much profit did you make last year? Those would be more key to debt repayments. In reality, I think you would expect teams to turn down promotion if they didn't meet the stadium requirements, or the league would give them a grace period so that promotion doesn't become a financial penalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruh Roh Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 This isn't how undersoil heating works in real life, though. It's not that expensive. http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/sport/morton/articles/2011/12/08/420853-counting-the-cost-of-undersoil-heating/ And I'd argue that even if does cost a lot to get it permanently installed, being forced to foot the 7 million pound (!) bill as a poor club for something that has literally no effect on gameplay is so anti-fun that it should be patched out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlivierL Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Is it a requirement of the league you've joined to have undersoil heating? May be why you both have had the same issue with the same club once promoted. it is requirement in pro league to have undersoil heating ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THX1138 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I thought the cost was around £700,000 not £7M Surely it would be cheaper to put in a 3G pitch, not sure if they need under-soil heating? http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/undersoil-heating-would-cost-posh-around-700-000-1-3516296 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajj 7 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Cost £2 million for me, took about 2 months. (EPL BTW) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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