Ollie C Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 By all accounts Cesc also essentially went on strike to force us to sell. Supposedly he refused to play for us in those games at the start of the season before he was officially sold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 So, will RvP stay and fulfill his contract (and thus leave for nothing) or will he demand a move or will Wenger sell him and get some €'s for him.What is the general opinion among Arsenal fans? He has forced the issue; he will be sold. Furthermore he has ruined the club's bargaining position which makes it more difficult to get a good price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheps. Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 It's a bit of a setup...and completely false...but funny nonetheless...sorry gooners! Nt often us spuds can gloat over yous!!! are you frickin mad? ARE YOU FRICKIN MAD?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Lawson Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 He has forced the issue; he will be sold. Furthermore he has ruined the club's bargaining position which makes it more difficult to get a good price. Thats why its *******, no club has to convince him to leave us because he's already made that decision! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Gribble Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 I felt it was a bit different with Cesc, obviously had dreams to return to his hometown and despite us rejecting bids the seasons before he continued to put in 100% for us and has had nothing bad to say about us since, I'd definitely welcome him back with open arms which you definitely wouldn't say with Nasri/Adebayor etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy13 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 RvP has confirmed what I've been saying for YEARS - Arsenal no longer have the ambition to deliver trophies. Wenger and Gazidis are a cancer at the club and must be cut out immediately. I want Dein, I want Usmanov, I want an ambitious football club and THAT'S ALL. If we're ambitious and lose then fine, but to scrape the barrel and happily accept second best is scandalous. Rip Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Serves me right for skimping it; anyway he didn't make 38 league starts last season. Then maybe it was 38 league appearances last season vs 111 starts previously? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Should have been a Leeds fan tbh, LIVE THE DREAM! @sy of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy13 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Isn't it strange by the way how this has been kept hush hush until the ST renewal date passed?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhughthom Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 I love the sense of perspective football fans have. RIP Arsenal, FFS, look at what's happening at Rangers where it really is RIP Rangers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Gribble Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Sy you're clearly one of those people who are never happy and gets more enjoyment out of football by being negative and wishing things were better rather than enjoying what you have. If the opposite happened and Usmanov took over instead of Kroenke I have no doubt that you'd moan endlessly about how we've lost our soul blah blah RIP Arsenal. Who's to say Usmanov would be a great owner anyway? He's a pretty shady character, could either be like the Glazers and pillage the club for money, or be like Abramovic and try play manager and sign players the actual manager doesn't want, sack new managers endlessly etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 I felt it was a bit different with Cesc, obviously had dreams to return to his hometown and despite us rejecting bids the seasons before he continued to put in 100% for us and has had nothing bad to say about us since, I'd definitely welcome him back with open arms which you definitely wouldn't say with Nasri/Adebayor etc. Tbh he treated us like crap last summer but did it clandestinely. He forced the issue but in the dark thus not to tarnish his reputation. RvP has confirmed what I've been saying for YEARS - Arsenal no longer have the ambition to deliver trophies. Wenger and Gazidis are a cancer at the club and must be cut out immediately. I want Dein, I want Usmanov, I want an ambitious football club and THAT'S ALL. If we're ambitious and lose then fine, but to scrape the barrel and happily accept second best is scandalous. Rip Arsenal. I am speechless at the absurdity of this. Then maybe it was 38 league appearances last season vs 111 starts previously? Yep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 I just died a little inside after reading Sy's post. Bit dramatic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 I've always said sy13 is yid at heart, in denial, love visiting the thread and seeing his and djvandyke post when things don't go so well!! tbh most of the posters in this thread are good, people like pouncer, retro, SJ234 etc... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suggy33 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 I love the sense of perspective football fans have. RIP Arsenal, FFS, look at what's happening at Rangers where it really is RIP Rangers. Disclaimer: The opinions of Sy13 do not represent the opinions of all Arsenal fans and should not be taken seriously or with any offence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Lawson Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 It's not all doom and gloom, theres still time to announce kalou as his replacement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
\'GillesGrimandi_18 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 The statement and timing is a bit strange but there's nothing to say he isn't leaving because of a lack of ambition. He's 28 and unlikely to win anything internationally now, what has he got with us? A FA cup winners medal? I like to think it is for footballing reasons, being a long time twitter follower he seems like a good bloke. That said even if it is for money who can blame him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry_14 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Id be happy to see him rot in the reserves for a year to be honest. We will get peanuts for him now anyway, and id like a club to take a stand against these money grabbing players. All this different direction thing is rubbish. He knows he can get more money elsewhere having finally had a one good season and has put us in a position were we cant win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Id be happy to see him rot in the reserves for a year to be honest. We will get peanuts for him now anyway, and id like a club to take a stand against these money grabbing players. All this different direction thing is rubbish. He knows he can get more money elsewhere having finally had a one good season and has put us in a position were we cant win. I am not sure but is there not like some European mumbo jumbo law that means he can cancel his contract ala the Macedonian dude who did this a few years back? Edit: Goran Pandev won a contract cancelation due to Lazio freezing him out of the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmi88 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 If we do sell, thats 2 seasons in a row we sell our captain/best player, it is pretty shocking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Lawson Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 If we do sell, thats 2 seasons in a row we sell our captain/best player, it is pretty shocking We always seem to sell our captain the year after making them captain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 What else can we do other than sell for a decent price and then move on? We're not going to keep world class players unless we win things and can provide them a challenge/money. We cannot compete with City etc at the minute and so these players will realize they can take bigger steps in their career and there's no point in staying. I don't see any point in keeping an unhappy RvP, grab that money and bring in another striker or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry_14 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 I am not sure but is there not like some European mumbo jumbo law that means he can cancel his contract ala the Macedonian dude who did this a few years back?Edit: Goran Pandev won a contract cancelation due to Lazio freezing him out of the squad. put him on the bench every week and dont play him then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry_14 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 We always seem to sell our captain the year after making them captain which is why i think we should give Chamkah the captaincy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky9334 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Sad news :-( sy having another meltdown made it easier. Let's sell him now, and move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pouncer Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Id be happy to see him rot in the reserves for a year to be honest. We will get peanuts for him now anyway, and id like a club to take a stand against these money grabbing players. All this different direction thing is rubbish. He knows he can get more money elsewhere having finally had a one good season and has put us in a position were we cant win. Know exactly what you mean and I completely agree... but imagine if that actually happened: playing Chamakh up front alone when Giroud and Podolski are both unavailable, while RvP who just so happens to be still contracted to us rests ahead of a game against Brentford Reserves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pouncer Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Know exactly what you mean and I completely agree... but imagine if that actually happened: playing Chamakh up front alone when Giroud and Podolski are both unavailable, while RvP who just so happens to be still contracted to us rests ahead of a game against Brentford Reserves Actually this might happen Club statement: We have to respect Robin's decision not to renew his contract. Robin has one year to run on his current contract and we are confident that he will fulfil his commitments to the Club."We are planning with ambition and confidence for next season with Arsenal's best interests in mind." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Sad news :-( sy having another meltdown made it easier. Let's sell him now, and move on. I don't think you'll get much for Sy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff EdL Posted July 4, 2012 SI Staff Share Posted July 4, 2012 We can only dream. I think Iain Macintosh has summed up the reaction to this quite well. "Where does this leave Arsenal?" someone just tweeted. I'll tell you where it leaves Arsenal: Third from 92 clubs, in the Champions League.. ..playing decent football in a massive, modern stadium that they own. I'm fairly sure they're going to make it through the night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawee Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 It's a shame RvP has chosen to go down this route. The statement does more harm than good. For someone who declared his love for the club, he's making it awfully difficult for us. He could have kept quiet, and made his mind known behind closed doors. It wouldn't change his position one bit. He'd still get his move. His public announcement weakens our negotiating power in the market. Also according the Arseblog, Marc Gonnella, our Director of Communications said this about Ivan's 2 weeks vacation “Ivan is not on a two week holiday. Such things do not exist for Chief Executives at football clubs or anywhere else.” I have no doubt whatsoever that Wenger, as ever, will do all he can to give us the best chance possible to compete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff EdL Posted July 4, 2012 SI Staff Share Posted July 4, 2012 Anyone think Sy might be Piers Morgan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llew_Arshavin23 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 There's no doubting that the long-term future is good, it's just now which is rather rocky. In an ideal world, who'd you guys bring in as a replacement? For me, Robert Lewandowski would be a good addition to the squad. I also think it's rather short-sighted to accuse Arsène Wenger for anything like this. He's working under rather constricted circumstances and, as he showed by turning down the French job, is the most loyal man at the club. Many argue that he's overachieved at Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmi88 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 I liked this tweet from Piers Remember - @WayneRooney quit United, then they kept him. This isn't over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Denílson is staying at São Paulo for 12 more months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff EdL Posted July 4, 2012 SI Staff Share Posted July 4, 2012 That so different, Rooney was never going to leave it was just usual extreme tactics by one the most ****ish agents - Paul Stretford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff EdL Posted July 4, 2012 SI Staff Share Posted July 4, 2012 Denílson is staying at São Paulo for 12 more months. Can't they just have him forever? We should pay them to keep him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
\'GillesGrimandi_18 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 @llew Don't think there is a replacement. I'm really pretty gutted at this news, thought he was going to sign on again. It's depressing to start each season with no hope of winning anything, at least we could believe up until transfer deadline day in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Club is dead. We can't keep hold of our best players and we will give the captaincy to a guy who shouldn't be starting for Arsenal. Joy of joys. And people talking about Robin replacements Giroud is the replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 We always seem to sell our captain the year after making them captain Always? This will be the second time its happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmi88 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Who will be the next captain? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hershie Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 probably Vermaelen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud The Weiser Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Id be happy to see him rot in the reserves for a year to be honest. We will get peanuts for him now anyway, and id like a club to take a stand against these money grabbing players. All this different direction thing is rubbish. He knows he can get more money elsewhere having finally had a one good season and has put us in a position were we cant win. So you would like to let him rot and leave for free rather than sell him for say £30m which you could invest in the team :confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Vermaelen :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 So you would like to let him rot and leave for free rather than sell him for say £30m which you could invest in the team :confused: We won't get £30m and we've already spent the RvP money on Giroud and Podolski. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrik Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 The statement does more harm than good. For someone who declared his love for the club, he's making it awfully difficult for us. He could have kept quiet, and made his mind known behind closed doors. It wouldn't change his position one bit. He'd still get his move. His public announcement weakens our negotiating power in the market. Yeah, if that would have happend all the Arsenal fans would be even more mad because he wasn't honest with them from the start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff EdL Posted July 4, 2012 SI Staff Share Posted July 4, 2012 I would think £20-25M tops for vP I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't sign a striker, I think a midfielder will be on the agenda first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Kawee is spot on. RvP has screwed over the club big time. Honestly hope his career ****s up massively now. Nice long injury please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamjerome Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 yes, lewandowski's going to leave the very exciting project at dortmund to join arsenal to fight it out for 4th place with the rest of us chumps with the crazy £££ clubs ahead of us going for the titles instead football sucks pal, time to wise up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 tbf saw the name higuain being mentioned in the spurs thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrik Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 I find it by the way bizarre to see so many Arsenal fans have such a distorted image of the club they all love so much. Again the '$$$' argument is brought on, they guy is already loaded like hell, what empy hole would an extra 50k a week fill? The lad is 28, haven't won a price in ages and he that's what he is after at. I don't get the fuss about that. All furious Arsenal fans on Twitter, seriously, get a hold of youreselfs, Arsenal isn't a topclub, it's just a little bit lower then that. What should RVP have done? Just sign a new contract with the knowledge that he just limited his changes of winning a leauge title or a CL to 15%? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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