benjaminpeter Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Yeah, I would have closed him down, by stepping out, and in doing so narrowed his shooting angles down slightly whilst applying a little pressure to him. It might not work, but at least it's doing something.I thought this was basic goalkeeping knowledge? No manuals required. Edit - Who cares when we're so **** anyway Just looking at the replay, he could have come out tbf. But he still shouldn't attract blame, keepers have virtually no chance in that situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Sterling on for Suso innit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Post Difficult chance I suppose from the angle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 ****ing unbelievable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Now that really is embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Allow Jones to constantly win headers all over the pitch and that's what will happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martplfc1 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Hahahaha. We need about 100m in Jan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 Sterling on for Suso innit. Must annoy Suso that he is constantly subbed, when he does quite well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 jones about to get his best ever stats as a player courtesy of this defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Looking forward to the usual meltdown if you lose Just love the contrast between a win and a loss for Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Hendo coming on, please let it be Shelvey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Has someone been plucking at Gerrards eyebrows ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 jones about to get his best ever stats as a player courtesy of this defence. Was about to ask if anyone had a link towards his stats the last couple of games? Headers attempted and won etc etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Looking forward to the usual meltdown if you lose There won't be a meltdown, I think most of us half expect a defeat for Stoke away. Still frustrating to watch. Oh and it's Lucas off. Hufff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 pointing out a the teams deficiencies is hardly having a meltdown. we're entitled to as supporters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 shelveys not good enough to play this position yet ffs get him off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Luis lucky not to get a red but surely that's a 2nd yellow for Cameron? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 gerrard wtf?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 On the upside, Downing's been alright again today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Chances of us scoring two must be at least 10000/1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 That looked ****ing painful. Edit: Not as bad as first thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Reina has actually lost that ball before whitehead makes contact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 On the upside, Downing's been alright again today. Says alot more about the rest of the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Says alot more about the rest of the side. Nah, it really says more about Downing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I have not gone to the game so cant blame me for the defeat Only watched the first half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Joe Cole coming on. That'll save us. Edit: In place of Downing. ****s sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 How Jonjo has lasted this long is beyond me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I have not gone to the game so cant blame me for the defeat Oooh yes we can!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Right well, the line up was clearly wrong from the start. As someone said before the game, Suso was never going to offer anything against a physical side like Stoke. Our centre halves were on the back foot from the first minute. I don't think Agger or Skrtel have won a header all game. Add to this baffling decisions by BR, first in taking off Lucas and then Downing and leaving on the absent Shelvey. Poor performances from Gerrard and Enrique, the only positives being Downing and Suarez imo. Reina has looked shaky again. Off to bed now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Wouldn't be surprised if that's Suarez gone in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morology Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Worst fixture on the calendar. **** Stoke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Right well, the line up was clearly wrong from the start. As someone said before the game, Suso was never going to offer anything against a physical side like Stoke. Our centre halves were on the back foot from the first minute. I don't think Agger or Skrtel have won a header all game. Add to this baffling decisions by BR, first in taking off Lucas and then Downing and leaving on the absent Shelvey. Poor performances from Gerrard and Enrique, the only positives being Downing and Suarez imo. Reina has looked shaky again. Off to bed now. Suso done ok when he had the space. You have to look at Shelvey, Lucas, Gerrard, Henderson, Cole, Downing and probably some other crap I've missed off who've done nothing this game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 ****s sake, Tony, this defeat is YOUR fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 outperformed by the better team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Quickly get found out at this level when not at the races. Stoke a physical side and you will always need to adapt when away to them, especially when they turn up like they did tonight. A plan B is something we no longer have. Can't believe we allowed Jones to play the way he did, shocking how easily we allow a big man to dominate a game. Stoke a lot quicker to loose balls than us and our pressing was non existent tbh. My only real disappointment is allowing a 1 goal lead slip so easily, we have done it before this season and no doubt will do it again. We gift so many teams goals. Need to get a foot on the ball and control it better, usually our passing is better but tonight it was woeful. Could go on and on but there really isn't much point, just mark it down as a poor day at the office and move on I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 **** sake Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Anyone else blamed Tony yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Brendan Rogers was just doing an interview with Sky, apologised to the fans for the loss and stated that he'll be pulling Tony7 into his office tomorrow morning to discuss his role in the loss to Stoke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 That was absolute cack. Average team with an average manager - how the hell he can't get us to defend properly given the individual talents at his disposal is beyond me. Has he even done any work on defensive shape and keeping it tight at the back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martplfc1 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I think you are overestimating our 'talents'. Too inconsistent to be genuine quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudester Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I don't think Skrtel-Agger works well enough for where we want to be. Invidually both good defenders as a pair they are ok as well just has that something extra missing from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 So when should we start worrying? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 They just get found out too often, really think it was a game for Coates to come in to try and deal with the threat of Jones. It happens time and time again v a tall target man. 3 at the back and two wing backs might have been effective tonight. The lack of a back up plan is our downfall. We pass it out from the back because we have no one who can hold the ball up up top. However, Stoke pressed us extremely well tonight and that unsettled us majorly, Little options and lack of moment in the middle with a side of mis placed passes mean't we never got going. A game Allen might have done well in tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martplfc1 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 When we sign Sturridge and Ince for 18m in 5 days' time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Gerrard got into the right position twice the whole game when we were attacking. 1st time Johnson played the ball through and he ran past it ( ball maybe not the best but he give up on it anyway) and the 2nd was with a decent shot at the edge of the box which resulted in a decent save and Cole being offside. Really a position he should be getting into the whole game. EDIT : missed one on the edge of the box after a nice lay off from Suso in the 1st. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 This is the first time I've ever begun to doubt Skrtel-Agger as a pairing. As individuals they've got the attributes to indicate they should be amazing together, but Skrtel's just not winning aerial balls now and Agger's not controlling the defensive shape. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 WBA (a) 0-3 Aston Villa (h) 1-3 Stoke (h) 0-0 Newcastle (h) 1-1 Swansea (a) 0-0 Sunderland (a) 1-1 Stoke (a) 1-3 Point is too often we drop points against teams mid table or lower half of the table we dont even score many ok we only have 1 striker but why dont the midfield get in scoring positions? Liverpool only beat Reading and Southampton by a single goal at Anfield, we only raise our game when we play either Everton or a top 5 side. won 6 lost 6 28 goals scored in 19 games. Skrtel is our 3rd highest scorer with 2 goals. How many times we go forward and a player is isolated no support and nobody in the box where are the midfielders? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Villa defeat is the one standout result there considering how they played for the next two games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 well theyre not helping out the defence thats for sure. Lucas ok is on his way back, but was a passenger again today and gave the ball away too often. gerrards not doing anything defensively either and shelvey was shocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Would have liked Suso in behind Luis instead of him going off and Shelvey staying on also. Esp if he wasn't going to swap him for Gerrard. Hopefully we get a few new players in during the window as its clear as day that we need them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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