chopper99 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 No thread already for this game? Big news for England is that Carroll is likely to start alongside Welbeck Provisional Swedish line up according to the BBC: Isaksson Granqvist Mellberg J. Olsson M. Olsson Larsson Svensson Kallstrom Elm Ibra Elmander Nothing announced for England yet, but probably 4-4-2 with: Hart Johnson Terry Lescott Cole Young Parker Gerrard Milner Carroll Welbeck I'm not convinced we'll win this if that lineup turns out to be correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 I was just about to make one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Think we'll struggle to beat them with that team to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-fiend Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 As a Finn I'm obligated to root for England. Although I do like Zlatan and wouldn't begrudge him to show the doubters and haters. So basically c'mon, 4-3 for England with a Zlatan hattrick and Welbeck scoring a couple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshotbg Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Sweden are awful in defence. 3-3 draw please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper99 Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 I was just about to make one Yours would probably have been better to be fair, I haven't got time to bother with images and stuff. I just couldn't wait any longer to share my negativity about tonights game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Yours would probably have been better to be fair, I haven't got time to bother with images and stuff.I just couldn't wait any longer to share my negativity about tonights game Nah, probably not. I just copied stuff over for my Ukraine vs France thread. And you guys will win. Carroll to score a hattrick. Them Swedes won't know what hit them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Button Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 [video=youtube;Q_YiG7yN7PY] This was on Radio 1 earlier and proper got me in the mood. 'MON ENGLAND! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nørbæk Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Oooh, really looking forward to this. I am hoping for a thrilling 2-2 encounter with goals from Zlatan and Elmander for Sweden. Maybe Gerrard and Welbeck for England? If I'm not mistaken, on paper this is the weakest England squad for many years. What do the closer followers think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nørbæk Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 As a Finn I'm obligated to root for England. Although I do like Zlatan and wouldn't begrudge him to show the doubters and haters. So basically c'mon, 4-3 for England with a Zlatan hattrick and Welbeck scoring a couple. Show what to the haters exactly? Some are saying Zlatan chokes in bigger matches, sure, but the majority of people, in my opinion, dislike him because of his arrogant attitude and childish behaviour (think of Nani and Ronaldo as well). I think pretty much everyone agree that his skills are amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Hang on a second, why are we so concerned about one change in the team again, is it cause it's Carroll LOL? Young on the left in place of Ox is probably making it stronger tbh. It's not like Welbeck and Young were linking up the other day, they hardly exchanged a glance let alone a pass. Now we have Welbeck and his movement and Carroll as well to hold the ball up ... I really don't see how moving Young left and bringing Carroll in really, really changes anyone's thinking from the French game. I have the same concerns I had before I saw that line up and I even think that line up may be a little better. We have some pace on the bench in Walcott and Ox. The way people are going on it's like someone announced my Nan will play up front, ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper99 Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 Mainly because the one positive I took from the France game is that we actually tried to pass the ball around and didn't just hoof it up fromt every time. Now, with Carroll starting, I fear that's what we'll revert to. Not sure where you get the impression he can hold the ball up from either, apart from flick-on's he's not a great target man. On top of that he should be no-where near the England 1st 11. Apart from 6 decent months at Newcastle he's done nothing to indicate he's a good enough striker to be starting for the national team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Terry to hoof it to Carroll, Carroll to flick it onto Welbeck, and Welbeck to hold it up. Sorted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper99 Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 And that's without the fact that Sweden are playing two massive lumps of centre backs who are both pretty slow. So by playing Carroll we're basically playing to their strengths. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Button Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 If I'm not mistaken, on paper this is the weakest England squad for many years. What do the closer followers think? Weakest squad for sure, but a much better team than previous years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foolsgold Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 I'd like to think we are good enough to contain Sweden. We look fairly sound defensively, though while we are good enough to hold up Ibrahimovic and Elmander, with England you never know. My concern is scoring goals, and I'd rather have seen Defoe or even Walcott alongside Welbeck rather than Carroll tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-fiend Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Oooh, really looking forward to this.I am hoping for a thrilling 2-2 encounter with goals from Zlatan and Elmander for Sweden. Maybe Gerrard and Welbeck for England? If I'm not mistaken, on paper this is the weakest England squad for many years. What do the closer followers think? Nah he has plenty of doubters just because he hasn't been amazing against English teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 I predict Welbeck, Carroll, Young, Gerrard, Milner, Lescot and Terry to get nowhere near a goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 i predict welbeck, carroll, young, gerrard, milner, lescot and terry to get nowhere near a goal. 1010101 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOStriker Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 After Shevchenko scored two headers against Sweden I had the thought that Roy might start Carroll, then I laughed it off. Wrong choice or not it's encouraging he's willing to mix it up abit, line-up-wise... assuming he does actually start Carroll and play Young wide. It'd certainly be a sink or swim moment for Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Hoping for a Welbeck hat trick and a Sweden win, just to see the uproar afterwards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lathund Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 The Swedish starting XI in the op is correct, has been confirmed. Through a series of advanced psychological reasoning and a series of jinxing and anti-jinxing, I have decided to believe in a Swedish victory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Mainly because the one positive I took from the France game is that we actually tried to pass the ball around and didn't just hoof it up fromt every time. Now, with Carroll starting, I fear that's what we'll revert to. Not sure where you get the impression he can hold the ball up from either, apart from flick-on's he's not a great target man.On top of that he should be no-where near the England 1st 11. Apart from 6 decent months at Newcastle he's done nothing to indicate he's a good enough striker to be starting for the national team. Even in the friendly against Norway Carroll dropped into midfield and laid it off and we could do with a bit of that sometimes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMtillidie Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Isaakson the former city keeper? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lathund Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Yes. Who was benched for Hart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG17 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Carroll over Chamberlain. Still baffles me how people can get excited over England anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Wrong thread.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 From: "Neville to Campbell, Campbell to Rio, Rio to Scholsey, Scholsey -> Gerrard. Gerrard to Beckham, Beckham to Heskey, Heskey to Owen, to goal! 5-1!" To "Johnson to Terry, Terry to Lescott, Lescott to Terry, Terry -> Johnson. Johnson to Terry, Terry to Lescott, Lescott to Carroll, to goal! 1-0!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMT Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Any chance this game will have a delayed kick off if the French game restarts and it overlaps? Happy we have gone two up top as it suggests we may be more attack minded, disappointed it's Ox who misses out EDIT: Doesn't matter French restarting at 6pm (UK time), so should time ok Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Mainly because the one positive I took from the France game is that we actually tried to pass the ball around and didn't just hoof it up fromt every time. Now, with Carroll starting, I fear that's what we'll revert to. Not sure where you get the impression he can hold the ball up from either, apart from flick-on's he's not a great target man.On top of that he should be no-where near the England 1st 11. Apart from 6 decent months at Newcastle he's done nothing to indicate he's a good enough striker to be starting for the national team. He wins pretty much every duel with defenders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
batch Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Coulda been at this game tonight. My brother got offered, for free, two tickets, flights and hotel for four nights through work. Meant flying to Ukraine yesterday but i only got back from Cyprus at 3am this morning and he'd already booked to go to France His boss couldnt go so he was offering the package around and nobody wanted it :O Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 They said earlier on the France Ukraine match that our match has been put back to 8pm for anyone wondering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 He wins pretty much every duel with defenders. I remember him losing out to, I think, Rafael a few times... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Come on Sweden!! 3-2 will do nicely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Carroll bound to score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 He wins pretty much every duel with defenders. I have a .gif of him being beaten in the air by Rafael every time he comes up against him from last season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsheffreygreat Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Carroll over Chamberlain. Still baffles me how people can get excited over England anymore. He did nothing in the last game and besides, it's not about playing the nice, pretty football all the time when you don't have the players with which to do so. Carroll can dominate in the air and the Swedes looked weak against Ukraine so it makes sense. Edit: just realised you support Southampton never mind.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt1389 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 I have a .gif of him being beaten in the air by Rafael every time he comes up against him from last season Why have you not posted this? I don't actually remember that game, did he really get consistently beaten by Rafael, or is it a little bit of playful exaggeration to wind up a Liverpool fan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liniert Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Is the sound working for anyone on the BBC HD channel? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPS Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Is the sound working for anyone on the BBC HD channel? Sadly it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 I saw alternate commentary and thought **** yes, anyone will be better than Lawrenson.. then i saw Moyles and Comedey Dave ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Why have you not posted this? I don't actually remember that game, did he really get consistently beaten by Rafael, or is it a little bit of playful exaggeration to wind up a Liverpool fan? No he really did get beaten by Rafael. About three times iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOStriker Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Significant boos of our Anthem. The Swedes really don't like us, do they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltaroad Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Significant boos of our Anthem. The Swedes really don't like us, do they? It's England fans booing our anthem isn't it? Like we boo everyone's else is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodmansee Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Come on England! 3-2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Mon England! Hopefully they've got their scoring boots on tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodmansee Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Carrol 2, Young 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt1389 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Countdowns to kick off... amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bababui Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t239/bababui_2007/r3852284480.jpg Thank you Sweden Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 England going to beat Brazil...er...Sweden. Apparently far more Swedish fans than English ones at the stadium? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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