Bababui Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 ...and thus knock Holland out of the tourney. Macca is commentating games for ESPN with Ian Darke. This is one conspiracy theory that might have some merit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 except if portugal win or draw, denmark would go out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Could have merit if come the 2nd half the Dutch are leading by say 2-0 then they could very well play out a draw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jibby123 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Remember Barry Davies' classic commentary to the Germany/Austria game in '82 World Cup. the Nichtangriffspakt von Gijón, where they basically took the pee and didn't even bother to hide that they were doing it (before the backpass rule!) ensuring they both worked to knock some weak team out on the group stages (Kuwait??). "If you really care, if you're really interested....this disgrace of a game is going to end in a draw". Go Barry Davies. Well missed. Match summaryAfter 10 minutes of furious attack, West Germany succeeded in scoring through a goal by Horst Hrubesch. After the goal was scored, the team in possession of the ball often passed between themselves in their own half until an opposition player came into the vicinity of the ball. The ball was then passed back to the goalkeeper. Isolated long balls were played into the opposition's half, with little consequence. For the next 80 minutes there were few serious attempts on goal, e.g. by Wolfgang Dremmler of West Germany. The only Austrian player who seemed to make any effort at livening the game up was Walter Schachner, though he had little success. This performance was widely deplored by all observers. German ARD commentator Eberhard Stanjek at one point refused to comment on the game any longer. Austrian commentator Robert Seeger bemoaned the spectacle and actually requested that the viewers should switch off their television sets. Likewise, many spectators were not impressed and voiced their disgust with the players. Chants of "Fuera, fuera" ("Out, out") were screamed by the appalled Spanish crowd, while angry Algerian supporters waved banknotes at the players. The match was criticized even by the German and Austrian fans who had hoped for a hot rematch of the 1978 World Cup match, in which Austria had beaten West Germany; one German fan burned the national flag in protest.[4] · [5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Germany_1%E2%80%930_Austria_(1982_FIFA_World_Cup) Edit - It wasn't a draw after checking and it was Algeria they knocked out, but a result that saw them both going through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Remember Barry Davies' classic commentary to the Germany/Austria game in '82 World Cup. the Nichtangriffspakt von Gijón, where they basically took the pee and didn't even bother to hide that they were doing it (before the backpass rule!) ensuring they both worked to knock some weak team out on the group stages (Kuwait??). Algeria . [/pedant] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Yes, it was Algeria and that is the reason we now have final group games kicking off at the same time. Ruud Guillet was also coming out with this yesterday. It's hardly something that requires much mental agility other than 'oh, if it's a draw they're both through' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbert_o154 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 except if portugal win or draw, denmark would go out. There's that, and the fact that Germany doesn't really stand to gain anything from such a 'conspiracy'. If I was a German player, I'm sure I'd love to see the Netherlands play against Spain in the QF, for ***** and giggles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Yes it does assume somewhat that the Dutch will beat Portugal and if Denmark beat Germany they can leap frog them too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMtillidie Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 hope it doesn't happen its wrong tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nørbæk Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 3-2, 4-3, 5-4, etc., to Denmark and Denmark and Germany go through whatever happens in Portugal-Holland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nørbæk Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 There's that, and the fact that Germany doesn't really stand to gain anything from such a 'conspiracy'. If I was a German player, I'm sure I'd love to see the Netherlands play against Spain in the QF, for ***** and giggles. That's never going to happen. Our group is paired with group A so Holland can get to the semis if they qualify through the group stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbert_o154 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 That's never going to happen. Our group is paired with group A so Holland can get to the semis if they qualify through the group stage. My bad, I was confused with the semi's. 2B meets 1C in the semi's if they both make it through the QF. Still, I feel my point stands. The notion of a conspiracy hinges on both parties standing to benefit from it and since at present Liechtenstein seems capable of tearing us a new one, Germany has no motive. It's not as if they're eliminating a stronger opponent or anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orzelek Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Seing how bad Netherlands have been, it would be suicide for Denmark to play for a draw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nørbæk Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Still, I feel my point stands. The notion of a conspiracy hinges on both parties standing to benefit from it and since at present Liechtenstein seems capable of tearing us a new one, Germany has no motive. It's not as if they're eliminating a stronger opponent or anything. Agreed. Germany can't risk Portugal winning as well, so Germany will need a point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nørbæk Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Seing how bad Netherlands have been, it would be suicide for Denmark to play for a draw I think that's a bit unfair on them. They weren't bad against us, just ineffective. We were very lucky not to loose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Netherlands doing a sterling job of knocking themselves out TBF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_cfc Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 "If you really care, if you're really interested....this disgrace of a game is going to end in a draw". Go Barry Davies. Well missed. Barry Davies was fb, loved him commentating during the summer international tournaments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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