robbert_o154 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Anyone feeling some butterflies already? Yes, but not in a positive way. I feel like I am about to take an exam I haven't studied for. But I try to find solace in the notions that a) results in friendlies are meaningless and b) games against the Germans stand on their own, any notion of previous form goes straight out of the window. I am desperately hoping and praying that Bertje will put Klaas-Jan up front, Robin on the right and Robben on the left. Robin should just concentrate on his footballing skills and not try to score because he is (again) clearly missing confidence to do so. And Robben should play more for the team then for himself. Good luck with that last bit. In all seriousness, I'd like to see that too, and furthermore I'd like Bert to drop De Jong, put Van Bommel in his place and play Strootman in Van Bommel's place, as I feel he offers more linking defence and attack than either Van Bommel or De Jong. Never gonna happen, obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jeroen Thijssen Posted June 13, 2012 SI Staff Share Posted June 13, 2012 Fecking nervous guys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cedrik Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Merkel this morning: :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wendsill Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 hmm match of the tournament and guess who has to work.... **** night shift too ah well, good thing there is a tele otherwise I'd been late today... Feeling anxious about tonight, hoping on a good result, fearing a ticket home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrik Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Nederland XI v Germany: Stekelenburg, der Wiel, Heitinga, Mathijsen, Willems; de Jong, Van Bommel, Robben, Sneijder, Afellay, Van Persie In other words: we are screwed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orzelek Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 I wonder if KNVB still think it was smart to extend with van Markijk until 2016? (For me it sounded weird from the beginning, even if you have trust in a manager you don't extend past the next big tournament?) And as for today- you were disappointing, I expected Germany to win but thought that it would be much harder then tonight. And as for the defence- you seriously don't have a better player then Willems? He's been abysmal so far /0\ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 So right then, need 2-0 or better against Portugal and hope Germany beat Denmark. Who can see it happening? The second half team to start the next match please :o Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Snellink Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Please fire van Marwijk on his way out of the stadium. He's got no clue what he's doing here, approaching things the wrong way, making some of the best players in the world look like part-timers here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendsill Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Utterly dissapointed and devastated here. /cry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Dear Bert, For the love of God, please, drop Robben from the team. He doesn't contribute anything good. Here is an idea: keeper; defenders; Van Bommel / Nigel de Jong; Van der Vaart, Afellay; Sneijder; Huntelaar, Van Persie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbert_o154 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Well, that was a steaming pile of crap. And what really infuriates me that for the second match in a row all the players say in their post-match interviews that "they fought like lions until the end". NO YOU BLOODY DIDN'T. They stood off, watched the Germans pass the ball around a zillion times, didn't bother to press and generally look lethargic. So stfu already about fighting till the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepydude Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Well, that was a steaming pile of crap. This. I think we're gonna finish the tournament with 0 points. Disgrace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jeroen Thijssen Posted June 14, 2012 SI Staff Share Posted June 14, 2012 I didn't think it was THAT bad again - but indeed, where is the 'begeisterung' - the 'cohones' ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Our tactics fail because we don't move at all. Pass the ball, run out of ideas, give it to Robben so he can dribble it into a wall of defenders or try to hoof it into the opponent 16, with only RvP in it and 35 defenders. I accept that that may work against other opponents, but you don't beat a strong team that way. If we are to beat Portugal, we will need to tap out of another vat. And yeah, we need to be a lot more spirited. We never looked like a team desperate to score the equaliser. Only Hunter tried it on, slapping Schweini's neck and running into people. But against Portugal, we have to be careful with that. They are better at dirty than we are, says the voice of experience... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romanista1994 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Our tactics fail because we don't move at all. Pass the ball, run out of ideas, give it to Robben so he can dribble it into a wall of defenders or try to hoof it into the opponent 16, with only RvP in it and 35 defenders. I accept that that may work against other opponents, but you don't beat a strong team that way.If we are to beat Portugal, we will need to tap out of another vat. And yeah, we need to be a lot more spirited. We never looked like a team desperate to score the equaliser. Only Hunter tried it on, slapping Schweini's neck and running into people. But against Portugal, we have to be careful with that. They are better at dirty than we are, says the voice of experience... Germany looked pretty good at dirty as well yesterday. Is it me or do Sneijder and Robben look very, very tired? The former only made short passes and ran with the ball one time iirc and the latter dribbled a lot (lack of options or no lack of options) but ran out of ideas early on and switched to curling the ball in from distance. We definitely need to be more spirited, but it doesn't have to equate to dirtiness, I just don't want to see us stand there bunched around around the box not bothering to close down the opposition's midfielders who get all the time of the world to thread throughballs to the striker. They shouldn't have anywhere near the time to do that consistently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micado Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 Brilliant.Yeah, crap game (although fun to watch in a Danish bar.......), no passion and Robben is soooooo inefective lately. Wonder if Bert has the guts to try it against Portugal with a whole new tactic and players (probably not) as with the current formation and players he uses, we aren't going to win against portugal, let alone with 2 goals difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 vd Wiel-Heitinga-Mathijsen-Willems van Persie-Sneijder-vd Vaart-Robben Huntelaar-de Jong AANVALLUH!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 You need at least one controller. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbert_o154 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 my mum---your mum---Jaap Stam---Willems ----------De Jong----------Strootman---------- Narsingh----------Van Persie----------Sneijder --------------------Huntelaar-------------------- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Willems is hardly the best defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Snellink Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 --------Boulahrouz--Mathijsen----- --------------Heitinga------------ --Kuyt--Sneijder--Strootman--Robben --------van Persie-vd Vaart------- ------------Huntelaar------------ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 That won't work against Nani. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Snellink Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Boula to break his leg, problem solved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepydude Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Bring back Frank de Boer! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Boula to break his leg, problem solved. I think it would be a very good idea to have Boula casually walk up to Cronaldo and shake his hand, before the match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 You need at least one controller. Controller schmontroller, we need to have 6 attackers so we keep the ball right where it belongs, way at the opponents end. When Nani and Cronaldo get too much of the ball, van Bommel and de Jong won't be able to stop them anyway. Better take more risk with a rather isolated defense, gamble on keeping the ball way up front. We don't need a scrappy win, we need a win by two goals. With our defense, we'll never stop them scoring, so we need about three or four goals. There's only one thing for it: attack like men posessed and screw this failing 'controlling' game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atropa Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I hope for a remake of Portugal-Netherlands 2006. Man up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Hell no Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romanista1994 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 ----------Kuyt----------- Kuyt--Kuyt--Kuyt--Willems ------Kuyt--Kuyt--------- Kuyt-----Kuyt--------Kuyt ---------Kuyt------------ Clone him! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Commentators will have a ****ing nightmare with that team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Kowt... Kowt... Kowt... gowl!, er, Goal!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepydude Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 So, according to AD.nl Kuyt could start as RB... lol 20.33: Afgaande op de training van vanavond lijkt bondscoach Bert van Marwijk een rigoureuze verandering door te voeren in zijn basisformatie. Als we de 'hesjes' als maatstaf nemen speelt Oranje morgen tegen Portugal als volgt: Stekelenburg; Schaars, Heitinga, Boulahrouz, Kuyt (vlnr.); Van der Vaart, De Jong, Van Persie; Sneijder, Huntelaar, Robben.Bron: ad.nl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 4-3-3 oh please let this be true!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbert_o154 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Boulahrouz Still, I'll believe it when I see it. I don't get the journalists' obsession with 'de hesjes' when they've proven to be as accurate in predicting as a fortune teller at a carnival. But as long as we don't play with two def mids against an opponent who plays virtually nothing through the centre I'm happy enough, I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejay Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I mean no offence, but what happened to the dutch way of playing football, i mean it was basically the blueprint for how barcelona is playing now. They looked more "german" than the germans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jeroen Thijssen Posted June 16, 2012 SI Staff Share Posted June 16, 2012 I mean no offence, but what happened to the dutch way of playing football, i mean it was basically the blueprint for how barcelona is playing now. They looked more "german" than the germans We've been playing like this since pre-World Cup 2010 - how are you still surprised? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Boulahrouz to bring Postiga down in the penalty area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Snellink Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 So that line-up has Kuyt at right back, if I interpret vlnr as van links naar rechts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Boulahrouz to bring Postiga down in the penalty area. By his mere presence, he will cause muscle memory in Cronaldo to limp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Would love that lineup, don't see it happening though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 I don't understand how Holland can go through. It's Head to Head with results. So let's presume Holland win and Germany beat Denmark. This would leave both Denmark and Holland on three points. Denmark would go through simply because they beat Holland, regardless of Goal difference, surely? edit: Oh, I didn't take in to account Portugal. That's why it gets messy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Denmark beat Netherlands beat Portugal beat Denmark. So that's why we get to GD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micado Posted June 17, 2012 Author Share Posted June 17, 2012 Line up according to AD.nl: Steek Kuyt Boula Heitinga Schaars N. De Jong RvP VdV Robben Hunter Sneijder and according to Telegraaf: Steek Vd Wiel Boula Heitinga Willems VDV Sneijder Sneijder Narsingh Hunter Robben Seems both nice..... Ah, doesn't really matter, if we can keep the 0 at the back.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micado Posted June 17, 2012 Author Share Posted June 17, 2012 But surely, if we manage to make this miracle happen, then we should have a confidence boost and be able to beat the Czechs or am I wrong? ( first wait and see if we actually get there). But this applies also for the Danes and Portugal, both also better then the Czech's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Is Cruijff the one who writes De Telegraaf? It has two Sneijders. If only, eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micado Posted June 17, 2012 Author Share Posted June 17, 2012 ah my typo: Steek Vd Wiel Boula Heitinga Willems VDV Sneijder RvP Narsingh Hunter Robben RvP ofcourse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Goddammit!!! http://www.meemetoranje.nl/2012/06/17/van-marwijk-verandert-systeem-niet/ van Marwijk will replace van Bommel with vdV and Affelay with Hunter, but will not play another formation. FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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