iliqueur Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 hello, this was the schedule in the last month of season. Thu, 1.5.2014 - Fenerbahçe TV H 0 - 0 EURO Cup Semi Final Leg 2 Sun, 4.5.2014 - Fulham A 3 - 1 Premier Division Wed, 7.5.2014 - Liverpool H 4 - 2 Premier Division Sat, 10.5.2014 - Arsenal TV N FA Cup Final Mon, 12.5.2014 - Man City H Premier Division Wed, 14.5.2014 - Tottenham TV N EURO Cup Final Fri, 16.5.2014 - Arsenal A Premier Division Sun, 18.5.2014 - Man City TV A Premier Division we had chance to be champions but how can we manage with this kind of sick schedule ? nonsense... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 This can happen if you are still in all the competitions. In real life, the FA can extend the season but the game cannot code this, so it is the price you pay for being successful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperManager Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Personally, I'd sacrifice the EURO Cup... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSH Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 You're not serious with this reply, are you? He's playing in 3 competions, that's certainly not unheard of and you never see this kind of schedule in real life. This is certainly the game's fault, so SI should really stop with these answers... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iliqueur Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 You're not serious with this reply, are you?He's playing in 3 competions, that's certainly not unheard of and you never see this kind of schedule in real life. This is certainly the game's fault, so SI should really stop with these answers... +1 in the 3rd season with Newcastle, i won league cup and fa cup but lost uefa final because of this sick schedule. also i had chance to win league but could not handle no more. you never see this kind of schedule in real life. :confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reccy Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 This can happen if you are still in all the competitions. In real life, the FA can extend the season but the game cannot code this, so it is the price you pay for being successful Many Thanks for your answer. Please provide Real life evidence that this has happened to a top flight team. Expecting a quick response. Thanks Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Between 4/5/2008 and 22/5/2008, Rangers played 6 league game, the Scottish Cup final and the final of the Euro Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reccy Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Between 4/5/2008 and 22/5/2008, Rangers played 6 league game, the Scottish Cup final and the final of the Euro Cup. A game every 3 days - Normal i'd say. His suggests a game every 2.25 days.. 8 games within 18 days, rather than 6. Please provide evidence of a top flight club in England (eg Premier League) Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_uk Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 why the need for real evidence...Fraz just said its not possible to extend the schedule in game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Why must it be from the EPL? Get over it to be honest, there is nothing that can be changed, make use of your squad and keep an eye on fitness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reccy Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 why the need for real evidence...Fraz just said its not possible to extend the schedule in game? Then it needs to be re-evaluated and incorperated into the game. Simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_uk Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 i think this has always been an issue within FM to be honest,but like milnerpoint says,make use of your squad and fitness and accept the challenge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reccy Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 i think this has always been an issue within FM to be honest,but like milnerpoint says,make use of your squad and fitness and accept the challenge Im not that good of a manger to be in all comps at the same time, im just trying to work out why they haven't incorporated it in the game and just come up with, like it or lump it bolloc*s Why must it be from the EPL?Get over it to be honest, there is nothing that can be changed, make use of your squad and keep an eye on fitness. Yeah, sure.. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballhead Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 A game every 3 days - Normal i'd say. His suggests a game every 2.25 days.. 8 games within 18 days, rather than 6. Please provide evidence of a top flight club in England (eg Premier League) Thanks What maths are you doing? from the 4th to the 22nd is 18 days with 8 games to play. That's a game every 2.25 days. Therefore it has happened Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 The fact is this situation comes around so infrequent there really isnt a precedent for it, i cannot think of a single example when they have had to extend the EPL because of a team success, i dont even know if they would extend it due to their TV commitments through SKY. It caused outrage up here in Scotland when both the Old Firm needed the league extended i can only imagine the problem being much worse in England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reccy Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 What maths are you doing? from the 4th to the 22nd is 18 days with 8 games to play. That's a game every 2.25 days. Therefore it has happened 18/8 = 2.25 (OP's schedule) 18/6 = 3 (FrazT's schedule) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I think you need to read again, 6 LEAGUE games ontop of a scottish cup game and a euorpean game, thats 8 games my friend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdiatmh Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 So, you go a long way in all competitions, then you'll have a backlog of fixtures going all the way in EVERY competition (or making the final) means you'll have at least 60 games, of which are split about 30-30 30 games in 5 months = a game on average every 5 days, but with most finals being in May, you normally get a backlog there for a real example (top club in ENGLAND), Liverpool (00-01) May 5 - League - WIN vs Bradford May 8 - League - DRAW vs Chelsea May 12 - FA Cup Final - WIN vs Arsenal May 16 - UEFA Cup Final - WIN vs Alaves May 19 - League - WIN vs Charlton so 5 games in 14 days for a 2.8days/game average real enough evidence for you? conclusion: this CAN happen IRL (as FrazT and I have proven) but if you've got a paper-thin squad, then you pay the consequences Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Arrow Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 In Aldershot's conference winning season we had a run of 6 games in 15 days, or a game every 2.5 days. Didn't lose one In fact for the month of March we played 10 games in 29 days, one defeat. SO yeah this does happen and there is no excuse for not dealing with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iliqueur Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 Sat, 10.5.2014 - Arsenal TV N FA Cup Final Mon, 12.5.2014 - Man City H Premier Division Wed, 14.5.2014 - Tottenham TV N EURO Cup Final guys i want to underline again one of matches was fa cup final and the other one is uefa cup final. and the pl match was the most important match of season bec. they were 1st. so how could we perform good ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 You have to remember that players with a low condition can still play fine, they may run the risk of injury or get tired by the end of the 3 games but they can still play, i often play big players if they are around 85/90% fit if the game is important enough. Remeber and set all your important players to rest for a week, you wont need them training during that schedule and you should get through it fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSH Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Anyone who tries to defend this is simply out of his mind. This is not some crazy on-off case. People are not upset because this is happening, they are upset with the SI responses. It's the game's fault, not the players' and SI should at least admit to that (since they can't do anything about it atm). Isn't that the honest thing to do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iliqueur Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 Anyone who tries to defend this is simply out of his mind. This is not some crazy on-off case.People are not upset because this is happening, they are upset with the SI responses. It's the game's fault, not the players' and SI should at least admit to that (since they can't do anything about it atm). Isn't that the honest thing to do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdiatmh Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 ^ days off training are invaluable it invariably comes down to the fact that most FMers (yes, me too) don't build a big enough squad, and then throw a tantrum when they get a big pile-up at the end of the season look at most teams last season, Barcelona used 31 players last year, Real Madrid used 35, Man Utd used 31, Newcastle (for a non-top team) used 35, Portsmouth (who are debt-ridden) used 27, i could go on and on, but i'm 99% certain that most FM managers (myself included) don't use as many as that (okay, maybe as many as Portsmouth did, but then they barely had enough to pay any more) edit: that arrow is obviously aimed at the 3 games in 4 days post, i just took ages for research Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Anyone who tries to defend this is simply out of his mind. This is not some crazy on-off case.People are not upset because this is happening, they are upset with the SI responses. It's the game's fault, not the players' and SI should at least admit to that (since they can't do anything about it atm). Isn't that the honest thing to do? Clearly you have missed the 3 real life examples given where this has actually happened, please read the thread again. Anyway SI have on numerous occasions accepted the game could be better in this area but it wont be an easy thing to change, leagues are coded to start and stop on specific dates, having these extended would be very difficult. They dont need to drop into every single thread on the issue and give the same response over and over, if anything they will just get constantly flamed for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdiatmh Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 okay, (this actually happened to me on FM11) would you rather have the games rescheduled so that the UEFA Cup final is played on June 1 (after EVERYONE has been called up for WC duty?) i'm sure you'd be more up in arms about that (why is this crap game scheduling games on June 1, all my players have gone to WC duty) Yes, this ACTUALLY happened to me in FM11, for the WC18... i raged at the virtual FA of course, they then had the nerve to schedule a league game on Sep5 in the following season (Sep 1 - 13 is international duty remember) personally, i'm glad they changed it, i was fed up of having a CL final in VERY late May / early June (May 28-June 1) just for the sake of having 100% players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Unfortunately the game isn't quite advanced enough to predict how things will pan out. Games from early in the season et moved back to empty dates, but then these dates keep getting filled and games are moved back again. Eventually you run out of free dates, in particular if you are in the EURO Cup and FA Cup. In real life they can re-schedule 2 or more games at once to fit things in correctly and can plan ahead, particularly to allow for Thursday EURO games, but the game doesn't have the code to do this complicated procedure. Yes it can be annoying, but I've seen far worse schedules than the OP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Anyone who tries to defend this is simply out of his mind. This is not some crazy on-off case.People are not upset because this is happening, they are upset with the SI responses. It's the game's fault, not the players' and SI should at least admit to that (since they can't do anything about it atm). Isn't that the honest thing to do? Nobody has said that it is necessarily right, but it does happen in real life and it is a consequence of being successful in all competitions in real life and in the game. SI have said that the issue of recoding leagues to take account of this is very difficult with knock on effects, so is not possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSH Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Nobody has said that it is necessarily right, but it does happen in real life and it is a consequence of being successful in all competitions in real life and in the game. SI have said that the issue of recoding leagues to take account of this is very difficult with knock on effects, so is not possible. You can't equate one or two or even three examples of real life in order to justify something that happens so often in the game. I think a 10 year old could understand that, don't you think? Besides, since I'm seeing that you are avoiding the issue, I must point out that this happenes even when the player is doing great in ONLY 3 competitions, which is certainly not rare in real life at all. I don't mind that the game has problems, but not admitting to them and responding with arguments like "it's the price you pay for being succesful" is totally illogical and completely arrogant! In addition, due to the fixture problem titles get lost more often than not, so players are not REALLY succeeding, are they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coentrao Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 This happened to me as well in France, the Europa league causes massive schedule congestion towards the end of the season, i played like 5 or 6 games with only two days of interval in between. From now on i'll just ignore that competition unless i'm doing really bad in the league, it's just not worth it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britrock Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 On fm11 I played sat-mon-thurs-sun because of fa cup replays messing up my league games and the Europa league causing a backlog. There was no other way it could have been done because I was playing every single midweek. I just took all my players off training for the week and rotated every other match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 There are also an infinite number of FM save games whereas we have one real life to find examples from. Its easy to find countless examples of this from an infinite number of sources. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawlore Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 ...which is what happens in real life, with clubs fielding weakened teams in comps they don't prioritise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scfcbobby Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 You can't equate one or two or even three examples of real life in order to justify something that happens so often in the game. I think a 10 year old could understand that, don't you think? There are tens of thousands of FM players, a lot of whom play the game as a successful team, a lot of whom play multiple seasons in weeks. So the chances of these fixture backlogs are high enough to have a few people complain about it. I think a 10 year old could understand that I think it's realistic and it's common in lower leagues. IRL there would have to be exceptional circumstances for any FA to even consider extending the season for one team because it raises so many issues and they'd be accused of bias. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheeshy Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 These things happen. Rotate your squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taytothief Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I've had this problem too. This season I had premier division matches on the 26th, 27th and 28th of December. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATPimP Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Took this screen when I was playing FM11 last year: http://oi52.tinypic.com/72gco7.jpg To this day it blows my dam mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSH Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 These things happen. Rotate your squad. Yeah, I'm sure they do. We have tons of such examples each season in real life, right...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheeshy Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Yeah, I'm sure they do. We have tons of such examples each season in real life, right...? You don't need tons of examples, just the fact that it happens once is enough, in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSH Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 You don't need tons of examples, just the fact that it happens once is enough, in my opinion. So it's ok for this to happen every season in the game, when in real life it happens rarely? Riiight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 So it's ok for this to happen every season in the game, when in real life it happens rarely?Riiight. Does it really happen every season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Have you actually looked at a fixture list around Christmas/New Year and Easter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11731/7387491/Rodgers-slams-festive-schedule Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hluraven Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Real life, this season, Bromley played on Saturday and Sunday. We have had no postponements, only in 4 competitions (out of 2 cups in first round) and its only December. Things like this happen every season, somewhere in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheeshy Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 So it's ok for this to happen every season in the game, when in real life it happens rarely?Riiight. It happens every season in the game? Going to need to see a screenshot of your fixtures for every single season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
karax268 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 OP how come you play city twice in 6 days in the PL? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom14 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 To put it another way. Has an FA ever extended the season so that matches are more spread out in real life? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevvy Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 OP how come you play city twice in 6 days in the PL? It'll be because the original game will have been moved so many times that he'll have ended up having both games in a short space of time. Anyway, as far as I'm concerned, it very rarely happens in real life, it's upto you to have a big enough squad and be able to rotate and deal with it. May not like it, but that's the way it is. How often does the season get extended in real life in any league due to fixture congestion? Just because someone happens to win in every round of every competition they play in (plus replays) and it means they have to play a load of games in a short space of time doesn't mean the season should be extended. Being blunt, deal with it. You may not like it, but it's the price you pay for success. If it bothers you that much, prioritise, and play some younger players in the Carling/FA Cups/European games once you've qualified from the group stages/PL once you've won the league if that's what happens, or if you can't finish any higher or lower with a couple of games to go. I've had games before where I have a large number of games in a small number of days, and I just accept it, I get on with it, and accept it's due to being so successful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian JD Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 this is seriously not fun.................. Sun, 22/12/2013 16:00 Chelsea TV H 2 - 5 Premier League Thu, 26/12/2013 17:15 Arsenal TV H 7 - 2 Premier League Sat, 28/12/2013 15:00 Newcastle A 2 - 3 Premier League Mon, 30/12/2013 20:00 Man City TV A 1 - 4 Premier League Wed, 1/1/2014 15:00 Everton A Premier League Sat, 4/1/2014 15:00 Norwich H FA Cup 3rd Rnd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBannystar Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 People think that these schedules are bad? All 3 are in the prem... 26/12/2021 - Huddersfield (A) 1-2 27/12/2021 - Arsenal (H) 0-4 28/12/2021 - Manchester City (A) 0-3 Needless to say, I didn't end up having a great season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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